Life Points Wiped Out Before I Get A Turn.

[M840]

Just lost a ranked duel to someone before i even got to go. She/he went first loaded my side with roses tokens then used his card effects to take my life points all of them.Noone can complete with that that's pretty much letting people cheat.This game will recieve no support/MONEY from me as long as that is possible.Pretty dam stupid of ya developers this discussion is stared by a 51 year old man developers not a kid so get your ♥♥♥♥ together or lose money or when this person and others using this loop hole cost you ur game.

[Merilirem]

This is just how the game works. Its called an FTK. Decks that are capable of it lose most of the time and are super fragile. Any FTK that is good enough to win consistently gets banned. You were just the unlucky person who met them when they had full combo and you didn't have any hand traps to stop them.

Its simply not good enough to bother with is the point. They won't even win enough to rank up unless they get SUPER lucky.

[76561199256997065]

The card it's in the tomorrow's banlist so worry no more

[SadPlatty©]

The problem with decks like that is that it's all based on luck and net-decking. It sucks, but when I play YGO - I expect to lose more often than not just because I find meta boring garbage (if I wanted to do the same thing over-and-over ad infinitum, I could work later and get paid for it). So I run the cards I think are fun and maybe I get something going once every 3 games.

Basically - the counter are forced cards like Ash Blossom that can be used from your hand. There are a number of them now (only because there has to be to address stuff like you mention); however you then need to be lucky enough to have it in your opening hand.

And god forbid you get a garbage opener against them - unlike seemingly every other game played with paper cards, there is no mulligan. Unless you want to fight fire with fire; plan to lose.... often

[Astrallight]

Originally posted by TooN-Vanz:

The card it's in the tomorrow's banlist so worry no more

Next in line Manipulator of Souls.

[M840]

Merilirem i don't thank you understand i didn't get a chance to go to set anything he/she went first there was no turn two. Glad to here about tha ban tho :) plus Don't know the reference FTK. Gotta tell felling a little discourage to play.

[SadPlatty©]

Originally posted by M840:

Merilirem i don't thank you understand i didn't get a chance to go to set anything he/she went first there was no turn two. Glad to here about tha ban tho :) plus Don't know the reference FTK. Gotta tell felling a little discourage to play.

No - he did. FTKs are an actual thing that aim to kill you without you playing if they go first. It's a gross thing allowed to exist because "mah power scaling". The cartoon also shows one off (granted they have 4000 life). The guy plays a creature and sets 5 traps/spells, then can sac the set cards for 800 damage each (4k - and all real cards).

Hence why I mentioned we have hand-traps that literally need to exist to now go against them (though if they have them as well, we are back to square 1).

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by SadPlatty©:

Originally posted by M840:

Merilirem i don't thank you understand i didn't get a chance to go to set anything he/she went first there was no turn two. Glad to here about tha ban tho :) plus Don't know the reference FTK. Gotta tell felling a little discourage to play.

No - he did. FTKs are an actual thing that aim to kill you without you playing if they go first. It's a gross thing allowed to exist because "mah power scaling". The cartoon also shows one off (granted they have 4000 life). The guy plays a creature and sets 5 traps/spells, then can sac the set cards for 800 damage each (4k - and all real cards).

Hence why I mentioned we have hand-traps that literally need to exist to now go against them (though if they have them as well, we are back to square 1).

Its allowed to exist because the game IRL is played best of 3 which means a deck that maybe wins the first duel then hard loses twice isn't even remotely worth worrying about. In MD you only play duels 1 at a time but still its just an occasional loss. Basically like bricking. It happens and we all move on.

Not sure what "mah power scaling" is supposed to mean.

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by M840:

Merilirem i don't thank you understand i didn't get a chance to go to set anything he/she went first there was no turn two. Glad to here about tha ban tho :) plus Don't know the reference FTK. Gotta tell felling a little discourage to play.

FTK means FIRST TURN KILL. As in a deck that aims to win on turn 1.

[M840]

Sadpatty he had more then enough to get it going in his start hand first turn went on for a good 3 ta 4 min while he got it in., In nother words it realy didnt matter what he drew the odds where in he's favor to get them and one to use as work arounds in case he didn't its why it took them so long to do it he/she been studding the cards awhile to find what he needed or the work a rounds to get. Been playing for 25 years even in tournaments won a few (not proud to say that since kids where there).No this person has found a loop hole and the work around to get it going threw most of there runs/duels.I would say the only shot you had would be if he ended up going 2nd but just the fact he can do it at all say's developers need to get there ♥♥♥♥ together.

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by M840:

Sadpatty he had more then enough to get it going in his start hand first turn went on for a good 3 ta 4 min while he got it in., In nother words it realy didnt matter what he drew the odds where in he's favor to get them and one to use as work arounds in case he didn't its why it took them so long to do it he/she been studding the cards awhile to find what he needed or the work a rounds to get. Been playing for 25 years even in tournaments won a few (not proud to say that since kids where there).No this person has found a loop hole and the work around to get it going threw most of there runs/duels.I would say the only shot you had would be if he ended up going 2nd but just the fact he can do it at all say's developers need to get there ♥♥♥♥ together.

You can do FTKs at tournaments too you know. People just don't because the FTK decks generally suck. The times FTKs worked they got immediately banned.

[M840]

Merilirem I hear man i really do but this is laid at the devs feet something like this should not be possible they should know to test this things before we get it.Never had it happen till i played this game and i've played them all thanks for letting me vent guys. but as long as this has the possible of FTK i cant really plain on supporting this game i'll see how things are after a few weeks or month. thanks everyone for the Intel.:)

[Prokaizer]

Originally posted by Merilirem:

Originally posted by SadPlatty©:

No - he did. FTKs are an actual thing that aim to kill you without you playing if they go first. It's a gross thing allowed to exist because "mah power scaling". The cartoon also shows one off (granted they have 4000 life). The guy plays a creature and sets 5 traps/spells, then can sac the set cards for 800 damage each (4k - and all real cards).

Hence why I mentioned we have hand-traps that literally need to exist to now go against them (though if they have them as well, we are back to square 1).

Its allowed to exist because the game IRL is played best of 3 which means a deck that maybe wins the first duel then hard loses twice isn't even remotely worth worrying about.

Since Master Duel is best one 1, then why going first 0 turn kill decks allowed?
The XYZ combo is pretty consisted and unless you open up with Gamma or Ash you lose.

[M840]

Don't we have hand traps there called quick spells?

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by Prokaizer:

Originally posted by Merilirem:

Its allowed to exist because the game IRL is played best of 3 which means a deck that maybe wins the first duel then hard loses twice isn't even remotely worth worrying about.

Since Master Duel is best one 1, then why going first 0 turn kill decks allowed?
The XYZ combo is pretty consisted and unless you open up with Gamma or Ash you lose.

Because pretty consistent wasn't enough to be a priority. The game has a lot of worse stuff going on than an occasional loss to an FTK deck. They have been moving through it all.

Keep in mind that breaking any deck requires you hit cards other decks play. If you banned every FTK you would hit a bunch of peoples decks that are just doing normal stuff. So Konami needed to weight it for awhile before they hit anything.

I mean technically Exodia is an FTK waiting to happen but you don't ban the pieces because its not reliable.

[Zaebore]

This is just one of the many problems of Yugioh Masterduel. At this point I'm pretty positive that we're all guilty of doing something this bad or terrible in the game now and if you haven't then you'll probably most likely experience it sometime down the line when playing the game. Creating negate boards, first turn kill, one turn kill, floodgate stun, first turn win, and so on. It's too little too late to recover from the game that we have available now. It's only going to get more crazier as time goes on. With more Kashtira cards coming soon in the future I'm sure we'll get some relapse into Yugioh ptsd again with how Tearlament came and dominated the game. It's going to be one wild ride.