Why is Block Dragon ALLOWED?

[Supermaori]

Sure, you can build a board that auto wins next turn, also you can draw 3 cards so next turn they have GUARANTEED to do the exact same thing they did last turn. Why should everything so one sided in this game? Despite this crazy bad design, Yugioh is known as the most popular card game in the world. Why are people so gullible?

[Astrallight]

There are many cards in this game that deserve a ban but wont cause MD banlist is made to get max profit from broken cards.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Astrallight:

There are many cards in this game that deserve a ban but wont cause MD banlist is made to get max profit from broken cards.

It's not the "max profit", it's an SR and most of the Adamancipator stuff is stupid cheap. Pretty much all UR's in that deck are generic, so yea...

Block Dragon is semi-limited in OCG.

The reason why it's still in the game is a certain level 2 earth insect.

[Zelwy]

Because is not doing anything broken at the moment, kinda like Rhongo.

[Yerc2]

In general, YuGiOh's design is based on letting people use stupidly powerful cards to make games one-sided and take away their opponent's ability to play.

That's just the state of the game and the direction that YGO is being balanced in.
If they did desire to change that aspect of the game, they'd need to do a major banlsit overhaul and snuff out stronger/newer cards as well.
This would not only hinder their current sales of powerful cards, but would put them in a position where they would need to refrain from creating more powerful cards as well, lest they would end up recreating the same situation they are in now.

It seems like profits are a higher priority than balance for Konami.

And just banning Block Dragon alone, while being a step in a positive direction, wouldn't really accomplish much in practice. People that relied on it due to it's strength would just hop onto another, possibly stronger deck.
The end result would be the same, there would just be a smaller variety of decks that could reach such an anti-interaction board.

[Lazer]

because Konami loves toxic combo decks

[Lasagna]

this is actually maxx c's fault.

ocg konami loves leaving toxic "just draw the out" combo decks in the game and then pretending that maxx c existing somehow makes that ok. (ignoring that those decks also play maxx c, and that maxx c forces you to play itself as well as ash blossom and crossout which are low impact cards instead of loading up on effective boardbreakers like DRNM, LS, Evenly, kaijus/golem/spheremode).

[Papa Shekels]

Same reason the other toxic game-enders are allowed. Chaos ruler, auroradon, galaxy tomahawk, kitkallos, elf, protos, rhongomyniad, etc. Because a certain earth bug is supposedly keeping all these cards in check so they are fair and balanced :)

[Yerc2]

It's kind of silly to pretend that the issue is a counter to toxic decks, and not the actual toxic decks themselves. >.>

It's not like putting on a bandaid gives you a wound. You put on a bandaid to help make the wound better.
Taking off the bandaid is pointless unless the wound heals first~

Compare the the TCG and the OCG.
Despite having a more lenient banlist, the OCG almost consistently has a larger variety of decks performing well and winning tournaments.
Konami obviously has no intention of banning stronger and more problematic cards, so banning Maxx "C" isn't as fruitful as it would seem in that regard, as seen by the lower deck variety in TCG tournaments.

Turns out that giving a wider variety of decks access to tools that allow them to be competitive also increases the variety of decks that can perform well. At least when the alternative is keeping broken cards to newer decks.

[ChaosBahamut]

I dare say Fairy Tail - Snow's worse. For one, at least Block Dragon's summoning can be negated. (as it's via a summoning procedure, not an activated effect) Secondly, Snow can be summoned during either player's turn, and often times negating the effect is pointless as it's the banishing that's the goal; summoning her and then disrupting your play by flipping your monster face-down's just a bonus. Finally, Block Dragon's search effect does have a hard "Once per turn" limit, for what it's worth. Snow's effects have NO limit.

[Lasagna]

Originally posted by Yerc2:

It's kind of silly to pretend that the issue is a counter to toxic decks, and not the actual toxic decks themselves. >.>

It's not like putting on a bandaid gives you a wound. You put on a bandaid to help make the wound better.
Taking off the bandaid is pointless unless the wound heals first~

Compare the the TCG and the OCG.
The OCG almost consistently has a larger variety of decks performing well and winning tournaments. Despite having a more lenient banlist.
Konami obviously has no intention of banning stronger and more problematic cards, so banning Maxx "C" isn't as fruitful as it would seem in that regard, as seen by the worse deck variety in TCG tournaments.
Turns out that giving a wider variety of decks access to powerful cards increases the variety of decks that can perform well. At least when the alternative is keeping broken cards to newer decks.

No, maxx c actually makes rogue decks worse, it doesn't "counter the toxic decks" it counters EVERYTHING that isn't floo or inspector boarder set 4 floodgates pass, but it hit's non-meta decks much harder than meta, tearlaments for example are the strongest deck in the game (and will remain so if kitkallos is not banned) and they can easily play around maxx c by just setting sulliek and then playing on your turn after maxx c is no longer in effect, also other more traditional combo decks like spright can play the maxx c minigame package (3 maxx c, 3 ash, 2 cbtg, 1 crossout) and be much less effect than something like Blue-Eyes or HEROES or Trains or <insert non-meta deck here> because meta decks tend to have lots of super consistent 1 card combos (meaning they are less likely to brick on maxx c and all of it's counters, and also are much more likely to draw into gas if they get even 1 or 2 draws off of maxx c where as a weaker deck will lose because they drew 2 ash blossoms and crossout and cannot always start a play with 1-2 random archetype cards).

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Yerc2:

Compare the the TCG and the OCG.
Despite having a more lenient banlist, the OCG almost consistently has a larger variety of decks performing well and winning tournaments.
Konami obviously has no intention of banning stronger and more problematic cards, so banning Maxx "C" isn't as fruitful as it would seem in that regard, as seen by the lower deck variety in TCG tournaments.

Turns out that giving a wider variety of decks access to tools that allow them to be competitive also increases the variety of decks that can perform well. At least when the alternative is keeping broken cards to newer decks.

Got any data to prove that?

I already told you that Road of the King puts together the data from a lot of events, even locals, so it shows their meta as a whole, but to prove your claim, you need to look at tournaments individually between TCG and OCG, and when I did that in a different thread, showing that both have pretty much identical numbers of successful decks in each tournament, you didn't reply, you just ran away.

So I ask again, got any actual data to show your claim is valid?

[Succubus Nirriti]

For once Ill agree with meta players and say the block dragon is a non-issue (compared to the rest of the problems YGO is currently facing). I like to run MARSHMALLON and the GHOSTSHEEPS (I forget the name). These arent meta. Would you have them banned too and get the fun out of my games bc it inconveniences you "a little"?

I agree block dragon is way better than my puny marshmallon and the sheeps, but still.

[dabestgamer]

Originally posted by Succubus Nirriti:

GHOSTSHEEPS (I forget the name)

Scapeghost?

[John Josep Jingleheimer Schmidt]

Originally posted by Supermaori:

Sure, you can build a board that auto wins next turn, also you can draw 3 cards so next turn they have GUARANTEED to do the exact same thing they did last turn. Why should everything so one sided in this game? Despite this crazy bad design, Yugioh is known as the most popular card game in the world. Why are people so gullible?

why not? i mean is not like you could summon a giant link train and draw block dragon limited (1) from your deck to your field and activate its effects.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Snake out:

Originally posted by Supermaori:

Sure, you can build a board that auto wins next turn, also you can draw 3 cards so next turn they have GUARANTEED to do the exact same thing they did last turn. Why should everything so one sided in this game? Despite this crazy bad design, Yugioh is known as the most popular card game in the world. Why are people so gullible?

why not? i mean is not like you could summon a giant link train and draw block dragon limited (1) from your deck to your field and activate its effects.

No, but I can summon a rank 4 statue and search Block Dragon from my deck.