Ishizu Cards are cancer

[Japoński Anon]

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[Japoński Anon]

Real talk. A ton of decks are rendered completely unplayable by their presence in the game. I can't believe that they came out before bystials and that the pre-hit was a slap on the wrist since it only takes one of them to hit your opponents GY to lock you out of setting up your own GY. For the next banlist they are probably going to just ban grass and call it good. Hope you guys stocked up on D-shifter cause this format and the next are going to be unplayable without it.

[draconicepic]

I fully expect the SR Ishizu cards to end up getting hit on the banlist right before Tearlament comes out. Konami tends to ban SRs over URs because of how dismantling banned cards works. It is likely that Konami released the two Ishizu cards at SR knowing they will end up banning them so they can rake in the money of people trying to pull them now without having to fork over the UR dust later when they get banned.

[Japoński Anon]

Originally posted by draconicepic:

I fully expect the SR Ishizu cards to end up getting hit on the banlist right before Tearlament comes out. Konami tends to ban SRs over URs because of how dismantling banned cards works. It is likely that Konami released the two Ishizu cards at SR knowing they will end up banning them so they can rake in the money of people trying to pull them now without having to fork over the UR dust later when they get banned.

I hope they get limited or banned. I think the worst part about them is that they kinda invalidate the whole maxx C minigame and make it a waste of deck space. The fact that you can't called by/cow them without them spell speed 2 dodging it pisses me off. Especially since shuffling is the best form of removal in the game.

[draconicepic]

Originally posted by Japoński Anon:

Real talk. A ton of decks are rendered completely unplayable by their presence in the game. I can't believe that they came out before bystials and that the pre-hit was a slap on the wrist since it only takes one of them to hit your opponents GY to lock you out of setting up your own GY. For the next banlist they are probably going to just ban grass and call it good. Hope you guys stocked up on D-shifter cause this format and the next are going to be unplayable without it.

I will probably end up playing some type of cringe banish deck once Tearlaments come out. I can't believe I'm saying this, but Weather Painters with Dimensional Fissure/Macro Cosmos might be a valid deck next format.

[Japoński Anon]

Originally posted by draconicepic:

Originally posted by Japoński Anon:

Real talk. A ton of decks are rendered completely unplayable by their presence in the game. I can't believe that they came out before bystials and that the pre-hit was a slap on the wrist since it only takes one of them to hit your opponents GY to lock you out of setting up your own GY. For the next banlist they are probably going to just ban grass and call it good. Hope you guys stocked up on D-shifter cause this format and the next are going to be unplayable without it.

I will probably end up playing some type of cringe banish deck once Tearlaments come out. I can't believe I'm saying this, but Weather Painters with Dimension Fissure/Macro Cosmos might be a valid deck next format.

Played weather painters in duel links and they were pretty fun. Always the chance of the stray feather duster/lightning storm, but its nice not using the GY. I've been running punk OTK before the patch and was thinking of playing Gran Maju for ladder after tear came out, but it seems like my plans are going to have to be accelerated.

[aben WHY (VC Off)]

It's plus a million for gy strategy and the deck that don't use gy really suffer, losing important 1 of and some times deck out by the Snow + Necro face combo.
But I gotta say, it's really fun when you're not on the receiving end of the bs.

[draconicepic]

Looks like Adamancipator is using the new cards. Not sure how well it's going to work out for them, but just thought I'd give a heads up.

[Merilirem]

Just crafted them up and slapped together an Ishizu Chaos deck. They are absolutely insane lol. Its a mill meta now.

[Aldain]

I guess Konami execs forgot why Foolish Burial has been Limited for...how long has it been?

Or took one look at Painful Choice and somehow said "We need this level of mill power back".

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by Aldain:

I guess Konami execs forgot why Foolish Burial has been Limited for...how long has it been?

Or took one look at Painful Choice and somehow said "We need this level of mill power back".

To be fair Painful is still way better than the Ishizu cards. Its just that there are so many of them and they create a funny loop.

I do wonder why they had to mill both players though. Like that's crazy. I do my combo and suddenly my opponent is down 20 cards... I wasn't even trying to mill them lol.

[Astrallight]

Konami's solution to currect meta has always been trying to release more broken cards to stop what is broken now. And it has never worked. Making proper banlists instead would help better then what they do now.

[ObsidianButterfly]

Originally posted by Merilirem:

I do wonder why they had to mill both players though. Like that's crazy. I do my combo and suddenly my opponent is down 20 cards... I wasn't even trying to mill them lol.

Because Exchange of the Spirit.

The idea is to use Kelbek and Agido to mill down the decks, the use Exchange, then Mudora and Keldo to put cards back into oppenents deck from GY so when the swap happens, you have way more cards than they do in the deck.

Too bad it doesn't really work the way it is intended with them all being HOPT (they would be even more broken if they weren't).

[Lazer]

this is why Maxx C is legal guys

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Lazer:

this is why Maxx C is legal guys

I didn't knew Maxx "C" affects cards that shuffle from GY to the deck or mill cards.

Are you sure we're thinking of the same card?

[ChaosBahamut]

Looking forward to seeing how my Undead Hoard fairs against these cards, ngl.