This game need a penalty clock

[eMs242]

Too many duels are taking forever for the player to finish one phase.. one duel took so long and one phase took an absurd amount of time. They need to implement a timer or a penalty for taking so much time.

[draconicepic]

Originally posted by eMs242:

Too many duels are taking forever for the player to finish one phase.. one duel took so long and one phase took an absurd amount of time. They need to implement a timer or a penalty for taking so much time.

They won't. They have already cut the timer down as it use to be longer. Honestly, some deck will simply be impossible to play. The biggest issue is that animations make decks that combo a lot take forever.

[eMs242]

well that sucks.. people are deliberately taking a long time to play a card just to get you to surrender.. they need a faster mode of play for people who want to just play the game without these people taking their sweet time

[Yerc2]

With the timer in it's current state of not decreasing while cards are moving, powercreep in card advantage, consistency, and low cost/restrictions has made it possible for people to take a 30-minute long first turn.

But if the timer kept decreasing while people are playing, then any decks or variations of decks that take over 5 minutes to set up on the first turn wouldn't be able to accomplish as much off the bat as they would like to. Whether this is a good thing or bad thing, I leave up to you to decide.

The timer is just in a silly state right now. It is effectively useless since no one* will spend 5+ minutes reading cards, Especially not in a single turn.

You can always report people for "slow play" if you want to though.

[LDvergil]

Dude let some people think in the game man, it really is needed most times, card with big ass text boxes making people have to think out their strats and plays. In most cases more time is needed.

[TormentedSalad]

Originally posted by Yerc2:

With the timer in it's current state of not decreasing while cards are moving, powercreep in card advantage, consistency, and low cost/restrictions has made it possible for people to take a 30-minute long first turn.

But if the timer kept decreasing while people are playing, then any decks or variations of decks that take over 5 minutes to set up on the first turn wouldn't be able to accomplish as much off the bat as they would like to. Whether this is a good thing or bad thing, I leave up to you to decide.

The timer is just in a silly state right now. It is effectively useless since no one* will spend 5+ minutes reading cards, Especially not in a single turn.

You can always report people for "slow play" if you want to though.

did you record one of these 30 minute turns yet because you keep claiming it source trust me bro

[Astrallight]

Originally posted by gredora:

Originally posted by LDvergil:

Dude let some people think in the game man, it really is needed most times, card with big ass text boxes making people have to think out their strats and plays. In most cases more time is needed.

Thinking is illegal in this game apparently. If you think for longer than 10 seconds, it's always considered: "taking too long," or "lmao, this kid doesn't know their deck."

It's honestly quite silly people here think everybody is required to know every interaction and combo line right off the bat.

Originally posted by TormentedSalad:

did you record one of these 30 minute turns yet because you keep claiming it source trust me bro

They never have proof. Even if they did, they'll end up dropping some 50 minute vod of two control decks against each other by some no name streamer no one's ever heard of. (No hate towards the streamer they post, of course).

You cant really expect people to show proof on everything they say. No one are going to record every game they play. Its common sense to know people are going to post exaggerated post about thier game cause time goes very slow when you have to watch someone play with himself 3-5 min+ time before you get to do your own stuff.

Like I can tell you I had a game today with a DM player that spend 1 min just to place 1 card down and then spend another 1 min placing spell/trap down he did not even use.

But he was quick at useing Max C funny enough. If you then dont believe me and want proof of that then you clearly got zero trust in people that post here.

Some people ofc need to read cards to understand what they do but if you need 1-2 min just to place 1 card facedown after popping a quick Max C on me then the player is clearly stalling even after I gave him 5 free cards.

[TormentedSalad]

Originally posted by Astrallight:

Originally posted by gredora:

Thinking is illegal in this game apparently. If you think for longer than 10 seconds, it's always considered: "taking too long," or "lmao, this kid doesn't know their deck."

It's honestly quite silly people here think everybody is required to know every interaction and combo line right off the bat.







They never have proof. Even if they did, they'll end up dropping some 50 minute vod of two control decks against each other by some no name streamer no one's ever heard of. (No hate towards the streamer they post, of course).

You cant really expect people to show proof on everything they say. No one are going to record every game they play. Its common sense to know people are going to post exaggerated post about thier game cause time goes very slow when you have to watch someone play with himself 3-5 min+ time before you get to do your own stuff.

Like I can tell you I had a game today with a DM player that spend 1 min just to place 1 card down and then spend another 1 min placing spell/trap down he did not even use.

But he was quick at useing Max C funny enough. If you then dont believe me and want proof of that then you clearly got zero trust in people that post here.

Some people ofc need to read cards to understand what they do but if you need 1-2 min just to place 1 card facedown after popping a quick Max C on me then the player is clearly stalling even after I gave him 5 free cards.

I don't expect proof of everything someone says but if someone says some pretty extreme crap I am struggling to imagine happening like 30+ minute turns yeah I think im going to need more than "trust me bro" and that should be expected and a DM player took 1 minute to play one card yes I have absolutely seen this I cant imagine what took them so long but i'll take my win and go.

But lets stop pretending that a guy taking a minute to play a card and 30+ minute turn 1 is even comparable I want proof of the latter because its a little tough to believe you have ever experienced this let alone it being often enough that its a problem

[MancakeBR]

Originally posted by Astrallight:

Originally posted by gredora:

Thinking is illegal in this game apparently. If you think for longer than 10 seconds, it's always considered: "taking too long," or "lmao, this kid doesn't know their deck."

It's honestly quite silly people here think everybody is required to know every interaction and combo line right off the bat.







They never have proof. Even if they did, they'll end up dropping some 50 minute vod of two control decks against each other by some no name streamer no one's ever heard of. (No hate towards the streamer they post, of course).

You cant really expect people to show proof on everything they say. No one are going to record every game they play. Its common sense to know people are going to post exaggerated post about thier game cause time goes very slow when you have to watch someone play with himself 3-5 min+ time before you get to do your own stuff.

Like I can tell you I had a game today with a DM player that spend 1 min just to place 1 card down and then spend another 1 min placing spell/trap down he did not even use.

But he was quick at useing Max C funny enough. If you then dont believe me and want proof of that then you clearly got zero trust in people that post here.

Some people ofc need to read cards to understand what they do but if you need 1-2 min just to place 1 card facedown after popping a quick Max C on me then the player is clearly stalling even after I gave him 5 free cards.

Exaggerating doesn't strengthen an argument, that's the problem. In fact it makes out the person to be a liar and is creating more issues than anything else.

[Dr. Raven]

Originally posted by TormentedSalad:

Originally posted by Yerc2:

With the timer in it's current state of not decreasing while cards are moving, powercreep in card advantage, consistency, and low cost/restrictions has made it possible for people to take a 30-minute long first turn.

But if the timer kept decreasing while people are playing, then any decks or variations of decks that take over 5 minutes to set up on the first turn wouldn't be able to accomplish as much off the bat as they would like to. Whether this is a good thing or bad thing, I leave up to you to decide.

The timer is just in a silly state right now. It is effectively useless since no one* will spend 5+ minutes reading cards, Especially not in a single turn.

You can always report people for "slow play" if you want to though.

did you record one of these 30 minute turns yet because you keep claiming it source trust me bro

I can testify to a 30 minute match. But that was thanks to the 10 minute old timer, admancipator deck did it once. I forget the other one.

Now it's more like 15 minute first turns are the worst you get now, but I've grown so weary of them I no longer bother trying to get into diamond anymore and just stay in the low ranks on purpose to avoid ♥♥♥♥ like this.

[ONISAIBOT]

Originally posted by LDvergil:

Dude let some people think in the game man, it really is needed most times, card with big ass text boxes making people have to think out their strats and plays. In most cases more time is needed.

If you created the deck yourself, you wouldn't need 10 minutes mid-duel to map out whether you have the tools to counter a setup or not in the first place.

[TormentedSalad]

Originally posted by Dr. Raven:

Originally posted by TormentedSalad:

did you record one of these 30 minute turns yet because you keep claiming it source trust me bro

I can testify to a 30 minute match. But that was thanks to the 10 minute old timer, admancipator deck did it once. I forget the other one.

Now it's more like 15 minute first turns are the worst you get now, but I've grown so weary of them I no longer bother trying to get into diamond anymore and just stay in the low ranks on purpose to avoid ♥♥♥♥ like this.

i've played in plenty of hour long games but they never say 30+ games they say 30+ turns

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by gredora:

Thinking is illegal in this game apparently. If you think for longer than 10 seconds, it's always considered: "taking too long," or "lmao, this kid doesn't know their deck."

It's honestly quite silly people here think everybody is required to know every interaction and combo line right off the bat.

Heck, if you aren't playing meta your opponent's turn will probably take longer on average, because a larger number of people haven't seen your deck before and may need to actually read your cards. Pendulum Endymion probably requires more than 10 seconds just doing that, never mind formulating a response!

[draconicepic]

I just thought of this thread in the game I'm playing. I think we can all agree that the counter system in Master Duel is miserably slow.

[TormentedSalad]

Originally posted by draconicepic:

I just thought of this thread in the game I'm playing. I think we can all agree that the counter system in Master Duel is miserably slow.

it is i played endymion on an alt i made to play dumb ftk stuff i didnt want to commit resources to since i'd need all the chicken games upstarts ect and holy jesus god have mercy on people who want to play six sam

[Yerc2]

Originally posted by TormentedSalad:

did you record one of these 30 minute turns yet because you keep claiming it source trust me bro

Not yet, as I just finished the event missions and haven't engaged in many non-event ranked matches as of late due to IRL stuff. Will share it once I come across one again.

But if you understand how the timer works, there shouldn't really be any confusion as to how it is able to happen.
The timer pretty much pauses when cards are moving. So you can go far past the 5 minute "limit" of the timer~

Denying the mechanics of the game is pretty nonsensical.
And trying to deflect downplay aspects about it's current state just harms the game and playerbase in the long run.