Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel

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Kumoko Jan 25, 2023 @ 2:39am
How do you beat a monster with all immune?
there are certain cards that are immune to cannot be destroyed by battle and card effects lol and some of them have like 3.5k+ attack
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Merilirem Jan 25, 2023 @ 2:46am 
Immune in Yugioh means "unaffected by card effects" and IDK if any monster has that while also having protection from being destroyed by battle. If you literally just mean stuff like Borrelend Dragon which can't be destroyed by battle or card effect then you can simply return them to hand, banish them and anything that isn't "destroy". You can also just negate effects on monsters like that.

Basically look at what they aren't protected from and when in doubt just run Kaiju's and other tribute cards.
Satekoi Jan 25, 2023 @ 3:47am 
Raidraptor - Ultimate Falcon.
Yes it has this "Unaffected by other cards' effects." but it don't have battle protection. And i faced sometime ago this monster, i used Labrynth deck, so first i just fill my GY with traps, then i just Special summon Labrynth Archfiend, and when it have more atk than Ultimate Falcon.

The Arrival Cyberse @Ignister.
I faced once this card with 4000 atk, so i do same. I just fill GY with traps, then Special summon Labrynth Archfiend, have 4400 atk.
skill issue Jan 25, 2023 @ 4:04am 
depends on what specific protection the cards have but i suggest you to always have these 2 types of cards, especially because in best of 1 there a lot of different decks played.

- 1 non targeting removal, depends on the deck you are playing, but one free for example is ningirsu if you are low budget, better if it's not a destruction eff as a lot of cards have card destruction protection.

- 1 battle phase beater like, borrelsword, accesscode, avramax etc.. cards that have more than 3k+ attack and usually win the battle.
Kumoko Jan 25, 2023 @ 4:21am 
Originally posted by spain with no s:
depends on what specific protection the cards have but i suggest you to always have these 2 types of cards, especially because in best of 1 there a lot of different decks played.

- 1 non targeting removal, depends on the deck you are playing, but one free for example is ningirsu if you are low budget, better if it's not a destruction eff as a lot of cards have card destruction protection.

- 1 battle phase beater like, borrelsword, accesscode, avramax etc.. cards that have more than 3k+ attack and usually win the battle.
so stuff like bottomless Trap hole and floodgate traphole works? with those with immune to card effect as for the floodgate if its face down the effects are maybe negated?
Papa Smurf Jan 25, 2023 @ 4:25am 
Cards that affect your opponent, like Share the Pain, can out unaffected monsters. As well, cards that can beat over them work too - things like Starving Venom Fusion Dragon and Avramax are good options because their effects affect themselves, not their target, to boost their attack high enough to beat over anything.

Tributing also works - stuff like Kaijus, or Lair of Darkness decks. Underworld Goddess has a similar effect to use an opponent monster to link summon it.
Last edited by Papa Smurf; Jan 25, 2023 @ 4:27am
skill issue Jan 25, 2023 @ 5:14am 
Originally posted by Papa Smurf:
Cards that affect your opponent, like Share the Pain, can out unaffected monsters. As well, cards that can beat over them work too - things like Starving Venom Fusion Dragon and Avramax are good options because their effects affect themselves, not their target, to boost their attack high enough to beat over anything.

Tributing also works - stuff like Kaijus, or Lair of Darkness decks. Underworld Goddess has a similar effect to use an opponent monster to link summon it.
lair of darkness doesnt work if it's unaffected by spell effects, as the ability to tribute other opponent monsters is an effect of lair of darkness. for all other cases it works.



Originally posted by Emilia:
so stuff like bottomless Trap hole and floodgate traphole works? with those with immune to card effect as for the floodgate if its face down the effects are maybe negated?

"immune to card effects" is too vague, that word doesnt exist, there are different type of protection, bottomless doesnt work for "unaffected by" and in this case it doesnt work also for "cannot be destroyed by card effects" too as bottomless destroys then banishes.
for example Blue Eyes Chaos Max, cannot be destroyed by card effects or battle" which means bottomless doesnt work or any of the second type of card i mentioned (battle beaters). while the first list (not destruction removal DO work).
effects with no targeting as
"send to the graveyard" ningirsu, dingirsu evil twin trouble sunny etc
or banish effects like black luster soldier, mirrorjade etc.

Also you have to consider targeting, some cards "cannot be target by your opponent card effects.
Ghost X Jan 25, 2023 @ 6:35am 
Kaijus
HeraldOfOpera Jan 25, 2023 @ 6:41am 
I like turtles. :steammocking:

(I think I'm the only one who uses this ancient meme to refer to Kaiju, but eh)
Mistic-Gohan Jan 25, 2023 @ 6:52am 
Any Kaijuu / Santa Claws or simply beat them in battle.
randomguy01542 Jan 25, 2023 @ 9:05pm 
you need cards like a "kaiju"/"lava golem" which works cause the effect isn't getting rid of them, the effect is giving you the power to tribute summon your monster by using their monster.
Silamon Jan 25, 2023 @ 9:07pm 
Originally posted by randomguy01542:
you need cards like a "kaiju"/"lava golem" which works cause the effect isn't getting rid of them, the effect is giving you the power to tribute summon your monster by using their monster.
Incorrect. It works because tributing the monster is paying a cost, and costs cannot be negated or avoided for any reason. If it was an effect to tribute the monster, it would not work.
ChaosBahamut Jan 25, 2023 @ 10:14pm 
Originally posted by spain with no s:
lair of darkness doesnt work if it's unaffected by spell effects, as the ability to tribute other opponent monsters is an effect of lair of darkness. for all other cases it works.

No, I think Lair of Darkness would work (assuming the monster in question is natively DARK, of course) because its effect of letting you tribute a DARK monster on the opponent's field is affecting YOU, not the monster being used as tribute. (unless it somehow works differently than Soul Crossing, which was able to let my opponent tribute my Eldlich that was affected by Shiranui Style Success; and thus unaffected by card effects for the turn)
Silamon Jan 25, 2023 @ 11:36pm 
Originally posted by ChaosBahamut:
Originally posted by spain with no s:
lair of darkness doesnt work if it's unaffected by spell effects, as the ability to tribute other opponent monsters is an effect of lair of darkness. for all other cases it works.

No, I think Lair of Darkness would work (assuming the monster in question is natively DARK, of course) because its effect of letting you tribute a DARK monster on the opponent's field is affecting YOU, not the monster being used as tribute. (unless it somehow works differently than Soul Crossing, which was able to let my opponent tribute my Eldlich that was affected by Shiranui Style Success; and thus unaffected by card effects for the turn)
The problem is that the tribute is an effect and not something it is forcing your opponent to do. It won't work.

Q: "Lair of Darkness" is face-up in my Field Zone. In this situation, if there is a face-up "Hunter Dragon" on my opponent's field that is unaffected by Spell effects due to the effect of "Forbidden Lance", can I activate a card such as "Grinning Grave Virus" and apply the effect of "Lair of Darkness", so that I Tribute that opponent's "Hunter Dragon" for the cost?
A: In this scenario, since your opponent's "Hunter Dragon" is unaffected by the effects of Spell Cards, it is also unaffected by the effect of "Lair of Darkness" that allows you to Tribute it when activating a card or effect. Therefore, in this scenario, you cannot Tribute that "Hunter Dragon" when activating a card or effect.
ChaosBahamut Jan 26, 2023 @ 12:44am 
Then explain why my opponent was able to use Soul Crossing's effect to tribute an Eldlich the Golden Lord that was unaffected by card effects that turn.

No, seriously. I sincerely want to know why that worked but Lair of Darkness won't. Is it just because one's for a summon and the other's to activate an effect? Don't see any other reason as both cards have the same "You can tribute your opponent's monster, even though you don't control it/them" bit.
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Silamon Jan 26, 2023 @ 12:46am 
Originally posted by ChaosBahamut:
Then explain why my opponent was able to use Soul Crossing's effect to tribute an Eldlich the Golden Lord that was unaffected by card effects that turn.

No, seriously. I sincerely want to know why that worked but Lair of Darkness won't. Is it just because one's for a summon and the other's to activate an effect?
What effect gave him the unaffected by card effects? His own ability does not if that is what you mean.

Edit: seems it's just a "Because Konami Said So" situation on that card.
Last edited by Silamon; Jan 26, 2023 @ 12:48am
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