Time for an Emergency banlist on Branded

[Lasagna]

Branded fusion and expulsion to zero please.

No i don't care they just released the set, ban them now.

[G3]

Just wait for Tearelements to come out. You won't be seeing Branded ever again.

[JKArtorias]

Originally posted by βumble:

Branded fusion and expulsion to zero please.

No i don't care they just released the set, ban them now.

They're not being banned. Cry about it.

I don't think the Branded part of Branded Despia is at all a problem. They could ban Patchwork and the deck would literally be functioning as intended. But with Patchwork the decks consistency sky rockets.

[JKArtorias]

To go into more detail instead of just that little bit:

It's kinda funny tbh. The deck feels very opposite to Swordsoul, where the generic strength of Swordsoul makes it strong but all the standout cards that i think should be hit (except for Protos) are Swordsoul cards, the consistency of the deck due to having 9 Mo Ye's is kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Hitting Longyuan was a hit but not THE hit. Literally hitting Emergence or Mo Ye exactly. Would've hurt the deck more.

As for Branded Despia, i would like Masquerade to be at a 1 of or in my personal opinion. Banned. Not cause it's overpowered by itself. I just think the deck that has Venom, Chimera and Mirrorjade shouldn't have a burn card. Let alone be able to do double Masquerade burn.

But outside of that. There's no real hit to the actual Branded Despia cards i see needed. You could make an argument that Tragedy would be a good hit to lower the ceiling and i wouldn't mind it or disagree heavily. Maybe limit Tragedy would be better.

The Patchwork cards though, being Poly, Patchwork and the Edge Imp just gives the deck a revolver where no draw in that is bad. Patchwork or Edge Imp is better than Poly but drawing into Poly is still fine.

Just ban Patchwork and the decks 9 card fusion revolver is gone. Branded Fusion can't carry by itself. What're they gonna waste Branded in Red on there turn or rely on hard drawing into it every match? Not good.

[Angel]

you'll be crying even harder when tearlament and spright come out, begging for the old days of branded especially if master duel doesn't pre emptively limit anything

[Papa Shekels]

As others said, just wait until tearlaments if you think branded is problematic. It's a cheap deck (in terms of power, but I guess it doesn't cost much to build now with a dedicated secret pack either), sure, but it's not inherently broken. Plenty of other decks can pull fusions out of their asses, this is just one that also gets stuff out of it. The only thing I would consider a bit busted is that they have an in-archetype way to completely ignore mirrorjade's balancing factor and provide infinite recursion. If the deck just ran out of gas at some point and mirrorjade had a hard once per two turns, it would be the fairest meta deck in years.

If nothing else, the deck just dies to dimensional barrier. Chain it to mirrorjade on your turn, they can't banish, they don't search off albion, they don't board wipe when mirrorjade dies, they can't interrupt with chimera. Use it on their turn, they just immediately pass or scoop. Tearlaments get slowed down but play through it anyway lmao, then just set up to fusion summon during your main phase

[Lasagna]

Originally posted by Angel:

you'll be crying even harder when tearlament and spright come out, begging for the old days of branded especially if master duel doesn't pre emptively limit anything

saying "tearlaments are worse" is not a valid defence of branded.

Branded fusion as a card should never have been printed. The deck in unacceptably powerful and you need to stop coping that it's somehow ok.

Tearlaments are a entire separate issue, it's just as problematic with rampant milling for insane card advantage and the Ishizu cards in particular should not be released.

These kinds cards should simply not be released legal to play at all, having at least the semblance of game balance and fair play is the most important thing in a card game.

[JKArtorias]

Originally posted by βumble:

Originally posted by Angel:

you'll be crying even harder when tearlament and spright come out, begging for the old days of branded especially if master duel doesn't pre emptively limit anything

saying "tearlaments are worse" is not a valid defence of branded.

Branded fusion as a card should never have been printed. The deck in unacceptably powerful and you need to stop coping that it's somehow ok.

Tearlaments are a entire separate issue, it's just as problematic with rampant milling for insane card advantage and the Ishizu cards in particular should not be released.

These kinds cards should simply not be released legal to play at all, having at least the semblance of game balance and fair play is the most important thing in a card game.

What do you define as balance in a card game. Every card being usable? A diverse meta? Cause our meta is diverse.

Tell me what you define as a balanced and fair play state of the meta.

[Lasagna]

I'm saying this as someone who has Branded Despia as their main deck, branded Fusion (and also either Expulsion OR all the self-floodgate monsters like Ido) deserve to be banned immediately. Same with Artifact scythe.

I just expulsion locked with Ra's disciple locked against an exosisters player a few minutes ago, There was literally nothing they could do to me unless they hard drew forbidden droplet or dark hole (lmao).

This deck is not ok.

[Aldain]

Just kill Verte and Semi the spell like the OCG, you'll see Branded drop in use a fair bit.

Seriously Verte is 90% of the problem, why they left it unbanned but somehow had the foresight to kill Halq is anyone's guess (mine is MONEY).

[Lasagna]

Originally posted by JKArtorias:

Originally posted by βumble:

saying "tearlaments are worse" is not a valid defence of branded.

Branded fusion as a card should never have been printed. The deck in unacceptably powerful and you need to stop coping that it's somehow ok.

Tearlaments are a entire separate issue, it's just as problematic with rampant milling for insane card advantage and the Ishizu cards in particular should not be released.

These kinds cards should simply not be released legal to play at all, having at least the semblance of game balance and fair play is the most important thing in a card game.

What do you define as balance in a card game. Every card being usable? A diverse meta? Cause our meta is diverse.

Tell me what you define as a balanced and fair play state of the meta.

Considering the amount of cards/archetypes in Yugioh and the rarity and difficulty of Erratas desiring every card to be usable is unrealistic, however the desire to have A diverse meta, that also has a fairly low power difference between the top tier deck and lowest (played deck), and also strategies that totally lock your opponent out of the game turn 1 should be extremely rare and inconsistent. Single overpowered cards that totally warp the format around them should also be banned.

Masterduel's current meta may be diverse at least on the main ladder mode, however the prevalence of turn 1 lockout strategies, FTKs, and other non-interactive strategies is a problem.

TCG has the opposite problem where the games are very interactive but only tears are powerful with floo and spright sitting on the sidelines and all other decks being nonviable, so there is lots of interactivity in the tear mirror but almost no variety.

Maxx c, Union carrier equip buster lock, Barrier statues, Vanities emptiness, VFD, IO, Eva, Scythe, expulsion Ido lock, Rhongo. All are either format warping in their power, or so horrifically antithetical to good design they deserve to be banned even if they see no play or are bad.

[Lasagna]

Originally posted by Aldain:

Just kill Verte and Semi the spell like the OCG, you'll see Branded drop in use a fair bit.

Seriously Verte is 90% of the problem, why they left it unbanned but somehow had the foresight to kill Halq is anyone's guess (mine is MONEY).

I'm still surprised Verte is legal, it's another one of those cards that just limit design space for fusion spells just by existing.

funny thing is I don't even play it in my Branded deck.

[Aldain]

Originally posted by βumble:

I'm still surprised Verte is legal, it's another one of those cards that just limit design space for fusion spells just by existing.

funny thing is I don't even play it in my Branded deck.

I don't use it in my godawful Elementsaber/Invoked/Branded deck either, but it's still a big contributor to the spam...of course they did kill Celestial instead of Verte so who knows what Konami is thinking.

[JKArtorias]

Originally posted by βumble:

Originally posted by JKArtorias:

What do you define as balance in a card game. Every card being usable? A diverse meta? Cause our meta is diverse.

Tell me what you define as a balanced and fair play state of the meta.

Considering the amount of cards/archetypes in Yugioh and the rarity and difficulty of Erratas desiring every card to be usable is unrealistic, however the desire to have A diverse meta, that also has a fairly low power difference between the top tier deck and lowest (played deck), and also strategies that totally lock your opponent out of the game turn 1 should be extremely rare and inconsistent. Single overpowered cards that totally warp the format around them should also be banned.

Masterduel's current meta may be diverse at least on the main ladder mode, however the prevalence of turn 1 lockout strategies, FTKs, and other non-interactive strategies is a problem.

TCG has the opposite problem where the games are very interactive but only tears are powerful with floo and spright sitting on the sidelines and all other decks being nonviable, so there is lots of interactivity in the tear mirror but almost no variety.

Maxx c, Union carrier equip buster lock, Barrier statues, Vanities emptiness, VFD, IO, Eva, Scythe, expulsion Ido lock, Rhongo. All are either format warping in their power, or so horrifically antithetical to good design they deserve to be banned even if they see no play or are bad.

Idk if i'd consider Adventurer PK to be meta. That's the main deck i know that abuses Scythe Lock.

Union Buster idk if i would either. But you wouldn't see me complaining about any of those cards being banned. Since i do agree. Eva, Block Dragon and Scythe are all cards i'd love to be banned.

I completely forgot that Branded's new trap card summons either card to your opponents field. That does sound ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

But yeah i agree the first meta MasterDuel had was extremely one sided. Being a coin flip meta. That's why i like the changes the game has made. They keep making good changes though. The Barrier Statue ban is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ delicious.

[Angel]

Originally posted by βumble:

Originally posted by Angel:

you'll be crying even harder when tearlament and spright come out, begging for the old days of branded especially if master duel doesn't pre emptively limit anything

saying "tearlaments are worse" is not a valid defence of branded.

Branded fusion as a card should never have been printed. The deck in unacceptably powerful and you need to stop coping that it's somehow ok.

Tearlaments are a entire separate issue, it's just as problematic with rampant milling for insane card advantage and the Ishizu cards in particular should not be released.

These kinds cards should simply not be released legal to play at all, having at least the semblance of game balance and fair play is the most important thing in a card game.

I'm not defending anything, just saying what will make you cry harder

[Blank]

Still waiting for them to ban Thermal Genex.