Why does returning to the extra deck not count as leaving the field?

[Soren]

I have a card effect, and it says 'If this card leaves the field due to your opponent's card effect, you can special summon..."

Thing is the effect does not trigger on return to the extra deck even though the effect is worded in such a way that it implies it really should. Does the extra deck count as the field in this instance? Because that makes absolutely no sense.

[BigCatRob]

The card is returned face-down and face-down cards cannot use their effects.

Edit: To better explain, if the card in question leaves the field, to the GY or Banish Area for example, then the cards effect can be activated as it is still face-up in the GY or Banish Area. If the card is returned to the Deck or Extra Deck, it's effect cannot activate as both the Deck and Extra Deck cards must be face-down with the exclusion of Pendulum Monsters that get sent to the Extra Deck.

[76561199248577485]

It used to work like that until Konami changed it.

[Soren]

Thank you for the answers.

[ChaosBahamut]

Originally posted by NightShiftFur:

The card is returned face-down and face-down cards cannot use their effects.

Edit: To better explain, if the card in question leaves the field, to the GY or Banish Area for example, then the cards effect can be activated as it is still face-up in the GY or Banish Area. If the card is returned to the Deck or Extra Deck, it's effect cannot activate as both the Deck and Extra Deck cards must be face-down with the exclusion of Pendulum Monsters that get sent to the Extra Deck.

Or with the exclusion of a Parasite Paracide (or was it Paracide Parasite?) that got sent to the opposing deck via its effect, if you want to get technical. (obviously I did :3)

[BigCatRob]

Originally posted by ChaosBahamut:

Originally posted by NightShiftFur:

The card is returned face-down and face-down cards cannot use their effects.

Edit: To better explain, if the card in question leaves the field, to the GY or Banish Area for example, then the cards effect can be activated as it is still face-up in the GY or Banish Area. If the card is returned to the Deck or Extra Deck, it's effect cannot activate as both the Deck and Extra Deck cards must be face-down with the exclusion of Pendulum Monsters that get sent to the Extra Deck.

Or with the exclusion of a Parasite Paracide (or was it Paracide Parasite?) that got sent to the opposing deck via its effect, if you want to get technical. (obviously I did :3)

Or Convulsion of Nature which turns both decks upside down, but Master Duel pretends to not see that card at all. Too many possible ruling confusions on that one lol

[???]

Being tributed by a kaiju doesn't count either, them's the breaks.

[BigCatRob]

Originally posted by ???:

Being tributed by a kaiju doesn't count either, them's the breaks.

I think that has to do with the fact that even though in it's effect text says you can Special Summon it to the opponent's by tributing 1 monster they control, no actual card effects are "activated".

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by NightShiftFur:

Originally posted by ???:

Being tributed by a kaiju doesn't count either, them's the breaks.

I think that has to do with the fact that even though in it's effect text says you can Special Summon it to the opponent's by tributing 1 monster they control, no actual card effects are "activated".

Actually, it's because the tributing is a cost rather than an effect. Dark World also hates this distinction with a burning vengeance.

[Soda]

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

Originally posted by NightShiftFur:

I think that has to do with the fact that even though in it's effect text says you can Special Summon it to the opponent's by tributing 1 monster they control, no actual card effects are "activated".

Actually, it's because the tributing is a cost rather than an effect. Dark World also hates this distinction with a burning vengeance.

Kaijus do not tribute for cost.

[gaylard]

konami hates krawlers that's why.
did you know that if you flipped one up with pawns after your opponent activated an effect to destroy it, you used to be able to activate both the flip effect and the float effect?

Originally posted by メイドの召喚獣ーレイ:

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

Actually, it's because the tributing is a cost rather than an effect. Dark World also hates this distinction with a burning vengeance.

Kaijus do not tribute for cost.

imagine telling lies on the internet.

[ChaosBahamut]

Originally posted by メイドの召喚獣ーレイ:

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

Actually, it's because the tributing is a cost rather than an effect. Dark World also hates this distinction with a burning vengeance.

Kaijus do not tribute for cost.

Yes they do, the cost is to perform the summoning procedure.

[【𝙎𝙥𝙚𝙠】🧉]

Originally posted by メイドの召喚獣ーレイ:

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

Actually, it's because the tributing is a cost rather than an effect. Dark World also hates this distinction with a burning vengeance.

Kaijus do not tribute for cost.

Man, your country made this game

[gredora]

Originally posted by gaylard:

konami hates krawlers that's why.
did you know that if you flipped one up with pawns after your opponent activated an effect to destroy it, you used to be able to activate both the flip effect and the float effect?

Originally posted by メイドの召喚獣ーレイ:

Kaijus do not tribute for cost.

imagine telling lies on the internet.

Kaiju summons are not activated effects buddy.

[Soda]

Originally posted by gaylard:

Originally posted by メイドの召喚獣ーレイ:

Kaijus do not tribute for cost.

imagine telling lies on the internet.

Imagine not knowing how PSCT works. Kaijus are a summoning condition. If the tribute was cost, there'd be a period in which you could negate the effect of the Kaiju before they summon themselves (not using something like Solemn Judgment/Strike). However, the moment they attempt to summon themselves (the window you could use the Solemn) the monster has already been tributed.

Only activated effects have costs, and Kaijus don't activate to summon themselves.

Know your ♥♥♥♥ before trying to accuse others of lying.

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by メイドの召喚獣ーレイ:

Originally posted by gaylard:

imagine telling lies on the internet.

Imagine not knowing how PSCT works. Kaijus are a summoning condition. If the tribute was cost, there'd be a period in which you could negate the effect of the Kaiju before they summon themselves (not using something like Solemn Judgment/Strike). However, the moment they attempt to summon themselves (the window you could use the Solemn) the monster has already been tributed.

Only activated effects have costs, and Kaijus don't activate to summon themselves.

Know your ♥♥♥♥ before trying to accuse others of lying.

It's a cost for an inherent summon rather than an activated effect. Which means neither half of Kaijuing something is technically an effect because language is ridiculous.