Game lost 90% of its players, banlist when?

[Helzer]

Seriously Konami, nobody wants to play with their preferred decks anymore when 50% of platinum are unfun overpowered decks and this creates a snowballing effect.
Block Dragon
Eva, Benten
Rhongo
Calamities
Imperial
Emptiness
Dragon buster sword
Scythe
all of these need to go.

[Helzer]

lol if scythe isn't a problem then rhongo isn't a problem then, just draw xyz encore bro. I don't run Rhongo by the way so he isn't a problem.

[Cinnamoon_dragon]

Originally posted by MancakeBR:

Eva, yes ban that, the fact it can search another copy of itself while fueling hand for Herald

How? Eva cannot search a copy of itself.
I advise you to build a Drytron and play it once to understand how it works.
This will help you counter this deck more effectively later.

[MancakeBR]

Originally posted by Static-ghost:

Originally posted by MancakeBR:

Eva, yes ban that, the fact it can search another copy of itself while fueling hand for Herald

How? Eva cannot search a copy of itself.
I advise you to build a Drytron and play it once to understand how it works.
This will help you counter this deck more effectively later.

I misread Eva, but it still is searchable by Benten :P

Also, I know how Drytron works. I played the deck when Linkross was legal. I even built the deck on Master Duel to skip opponent's turns.

[MancakeBR]

Originally posted by Helzer:

lol if scythe isn't a problem then rhongo isn't a problem then, just draw xyz encore bro. I don't run Rhongo by the way so he isn't a problem.

There's a HUGE difference between Rhongo literally having only 1 out while Scythe has many.

[BoD[6-4]]

There is very much to do for making the game be decente, too much for Komoney's mentality

[Chaos 混沌 カオス]

Do we actually have a source of "game lost 90% of its players"?

[Shark]

Originally posted by Chaos 混沌 カオス:

Do we actually have a source of "game lost 90% of its players"?

Yes you can find it on the "trust me bro" website.

[N'Zoth]

I see Access Code Talker getting banned. Both Herald of perfection and ultimatiness getting limited or errata’d.
Ash Blossom and Max C getting limited.
Zeus getting limited or banned.
Baroness De Fleur getting nerfed.

A lot of the cards we take issue with are already banned in either the tcg, ocg, or both.

Konami is going to have to do something to stop the hemorrhage of players.
It’s like I said in my post it’s not fun to watch your opponent set up an unbreakable field while you take a nap for 8 minutes, and then the moment you break their board they scoop.
It’s not fun not being allowed to play the game

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by N'Zoth:

I see Access Code Talker getting banned. Both Herald of perfection and ultimatiness getting limited or errata’d.
Ash Blossom and Max C getting limited.
Zeus getting limited or banned.
Baroness De Fleur getting nerfed.

A lot of the cards we take issue with are already banned in either the tcg, ocg, or both.

Konami is going to have to do something to stop the hemorrhage of players.
It’s like I said in my post it’s not fun to watch your opponent set up an unbreakable field while you take a nap for 8 minutes, and then the moment you break their board they scoop.
It’s not fun not being allowed to play the game

Accesscode Talker won't get hit.

Heralds won't get touched, Eva and to an extent Benten are what makes them too good.

Ash is overused due to Maxx "C" but she won't get hit. Plus, she requires a good amount of knowledge to use her properly.

Maxx "C" can't be limited or even semi-limited, it's a card that can only exist at 3 or at 0.

Zeus is already limited and there's no reason to ban it.

I'll stop at Zeus since it's clear you don't even know what you're talking about since you said it should be limited despite it already being limited.

[N'Zoth]

Originally posted by C.C. アヌビス:

Originally posted by N'Zoth:

I see Access Code Talker getting banned. Both Herald of perfection and ultimatiness getting limited or errata’d.
Ash Blossom and Max C getting limited.
Zeus getting limited or banned.
Baroness De Fleur getting nerfed.

A lot of the cards we take issue with are already banned in either the tcg, ocg, or both.

Konami is going to have to do something to stop the hemorrhage of players.
It’s like I said in my post it’s not fun to watch your opponent set up an unbreakable field while you take a nap for 8 minutes, and then the moment you break their board they scoop.
It’s not fun not being allowed to play the game

Accesscode Talker won't get hit.

Heralds won't get touched, Eva and to an extent Benten are what makes them too good.

Ash is overused due to Maxx "C" but she won't get hit. Plus, she requires a good amount of knowledge to use her properly.

Maxx "C" can't be limited or even semi-limited, it's a card that can only exist at 3 or at 0.

Zeus is already limited and there's no reason to ban it.

I'll stop at Zeus since it's clear you don't even know what you're talking about since you said it should be limited despite it already being limited.

Lol

[N'Zoth]

Originally posted by C.C. アヌビス:

Originally posted by N'Zoth:

I see Access Code Talker getting banned. Both Herald of perfection and ultimatiness getting limited or errata’d.
Ash Blossom and Max C getting limited.
Zeus getting limited or banned.
Baroness De Fleur getting nerfed.

A lot of the cards we take issue with are already banned in either the tcg, ocg, or both.

Konami is going to have to do something to stop the hemorrhage of players.
It’s like I said in my post it’s not fun to watch your opponent set up an unbreakable field while you take a nap for 8 minutes, and then the moment you break their board they scoop.
It’s not fun not being allowed to play the game

Accesscode Talker won't get hit.

Heralds won't get touched, Eva and to an extent Benten are what makes them too good.

Ash is overused due to Maxx "C" but she won't get hit. Plus, she requires a good amount of knowledge to use her properly.

Maxx "C" can't be limited or even semi-limited, it's a card that can only exist at 3 or at 0.

Zeus is already limited and there's no reason to ban it.

I'll stop at Zeus since it's clear you don't even know what you're talking about since you said it should be limited despite it already being limited.

You have no idea why stuff should get banned or limited. You sound like a person that abuses these cards and you’re making excuses to keep them around. Ash Blossom shuts down so many decks. Heroes, Dino’s, Cyber, ritual decks, the list just goes on and on. It isn’t “jUSt FoR MAxX c”.
Maxx C is still an incredibly powerful card if you just run 1-2 of them.
Cards that should be banned, nerfed, or limited are cards that drastically shape the meta, that every deck has to run/play around. And every card I listed is on that list. Access code talker can literally clear the entire board, and ftk you by itself as long as you have enough links in the gy. And that’s not hard to do for any deck.

It’s been a long night, imho Zeus should just be banned.

[BoD[6-4]]

Originally posted by Chaos 混沌 カオス:

Do we actually have a source of "game lost 90% of its players"?

people goes on steamcharts and do the mistake of summing the last 3 percentage and that's actually wrong... still (by luck) they went near to the percentage of lost players.

In the beginning we had a 255k players peak (I'll do approximations, but they're negligible), now it's 119k, so the peak reduced by 55%

If we're gonna consider the avg. players count in the beginning it was 162k, now it's 42k, 75% less

If we're gonna consider the numbers on the line we have 262k in the beginning, 49k yesterday, 82% less

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by N'Zoth:

Originally posted by C.C. アヌビス:

Accesscode Talker won't get hit.

Heralds won't get touched, Eva and to an extent Benten are what makes them too good.

Ash is overused due to Maxx "C" but she won't get hit. Plus, she requires a good amount of knowledge to use her properly.

Maxx "C" can't be limited or even semi-limited, it's a card that can only exist at 3 or at 0.

Zeus is already limited and there's no reason to ban it.

I'll stop at Zeus since it's clear you don't even know what you're talking about since you said it should be limited despite it already being limited.

You have no idea why stuff should get banned or limited. You sound like a person that abuses these cards and you’re making excuses to keep them around. Ash Blossom shuts down so many decks. Heroes, Dino’s, Cyber, ritual decks, the list just goes on and on. It isn’t “jUSt FoR MAxX c”.
Maxx C is still an incredibly powerful card if you just run 1-2 of them.
Cards that should be banned, nerfed, or limited are cards that drastically shape the meta, that every deck has to run/play around. And every card I listed is on that list. Access code talker can literally clear the entire board, and ftk you by itself as long as you have enough links in the gy. And that’s not hard to do for any deck.

It’s been a long night, imho Zeus should just be banned.

Ever heard of baiting an Ash?

Unless your hand is such a brick that your only usable card is your search/draw, even lots of fun decks can play through 1 Ash, assuming you checked and tried to bait her, rather than use your best card right away.

My friend plays Dino's, Ash was pretty much never enough by herself to shut him down.

I've faced HERO decks quite a bunch, same applied to them, most of the time Ash just weakened their end board, but didn't stop them.

If you can't see the problem with only 1 Maxx "C", let me spell it out for you, against any competent deck, if you don't have the counter for Maxx "C" then and there, that being Ash or Called By, you pretty much lost. GG go next. They will either draw into more hand traps to stop you, or have enough resources to kill anything you have on the board. And if you end on next to nothing, no competent deck will have any troubles killing you on the spot.

Also, fun fact, in the TCG, where Maxx "C" is banned, there are even players that won YCS tournaments and similar scale events without running any hand traps in their main deck for game 1. Interesting right? Without Maxx "C", you can build decks that won't care about being Ashed or having any Ash yourself.

Also, another fun fact, just use a negate on Accesscode Talker.

[BoD[6-4]]

Originally posted by C.C. アヌビス:

Originally posted by N'Zoth:

You have no idea why stuff should get banned or limited. You sound like a person that abuses these cards and you’re making excuses to keep them around. Ash Blossom shuts down so many decks. Heroes, Dino’s, Cyber, ritual decks, the list just goes on and on. It isn’t “jUSt FoR MAxX c”.
Maxx C is still an incredibly powerful card if you just run 1-2 of them.
Cards that should be banned, nerfed, or limited are cards that drastically shape the meta, that every deck has to run/play around. And every card I listed is on that list. Access code talker can literally clear the entire board, and ftk you by itself as long as you have enough links in the gy. And that’s not hard to do for any deck.

It’s been a long night, imho Zeus should just be banned.

Ever heard of baiting an Ash?

Unless your hand is such a brick that your only usable card is your search/draw, even lots of fun decks can play through 1 Ash, assuming you checked and tried to bait her, rather than use your best card right away.

My friend plays Dino's, Ash was pretty much never enough by herself to shut him down.

I've faced HERO decks quite a bunch, same applied to them, most of the time Ash just weakened their end board, but didn't stop them.

If you can't see the problem with only 1 Maxx "C", let me spell it out for you, against any competent deck, if you don't have the counter for Maxx "C" then and there, that being Ash or Called By, you pretty much lost. GG go next. They will either draw into more hand traps to stop you, or have enough resources to kill anything you have on the board. And if you end on next to nothing, no competent deck will have any troubles killing you on the spot.

Also, fun fact, in the TCG, where Maxx "C" is banned, there are even players that won YCS tournaments and similar scale events without running any hand traps in their main deck for game 1. Interesting right? Without Maxx "C", you can build decks that won't care about being Ashed or having any Ash yourself.

Also, another fun fact, just use a negate on Accesscode Talker.

If Maxx C's gonna be banned then eveything that allow doing longo combos should be banned

[Helzer]

Originally posted by MancakeBR:

Originally posted by Helzer:

lol if scythe isn't a problem then rhongo isn't a problem then, just draw xyz encore bro. I don't run Rhongo by the way so he isn't a problem.

There's a HUGE difference between Rhongo literally having only 1 out while Scythe has many.

You realize it relies in the same flawed argument right? "Just draw dropplet bro" is not a justification for having scythe or dragon buster sword legal.