Game lost 90% of its players, banlist when?

[Helzer]

Seriously Konami, nobody wants to play with their preferred decks anymore when 50% of platinum are unfun overpowered decks and this creates a snowballing effect.
Block Dragon
Eva, Benten
Rhongo
Calamities
Imperial
Emptiness
Dragon buster sword
Scythe
all of these need to go.

[ArtemisHunt]

The stats I see have Master Duel losing 10% monthly users from release and half concurrent players. So really it's just the boomers that are gone. The rest of the players are just taking it easy after going hard on release.

[Pepper Pimienta]

Originally posted by Helzer:

Seriously Konami, nobody wants to play with their preferred decks anymore when 50% of platinum are unfun overpowered decks and this creates a snowballing effect.
Block Dragon
Eva, Benten
Rhongo
Calamities
Imperial
Emptiness
Dragon buster sword
Scythe
all of these need to go.

As much as I agree with you, they need somehow to trim down the number of OP decks in ranked. Making a post like this is only going to draw in all the over-competitive players spamming ♥♥♥♥ like git gud, or it's a skill issue bla bla bla. Because they don't want to admit how broken a lot of decks are because most of them can't win without using a broken deck.

[Merik Lobo]

I didn't even know vanity's emptiness was prevalent enough to ban right now. It might be, but idk. and I agree with Gredora on Buster Sword. otherwise, yeah everything else you mentioned needs to be banned or limited. In fact, they need to do more to shake up the entire metagame. A number of the tops decks need some of their archetypal cards, and not just their splashed in tech cards, limited or semi-limited to make them less appealing and give other decks more room to breathe.
Maxx C needs to go too. If it goes off and you have no answer to it the game is over before it starts. That's no fun. It doesn't even do anything to combat the meta combo decks since they run it to and the results are the same. Maxx C going through successfully decides the match 9 times out of 10. Hell, at least half of the hand traps people run are just to counter Maxx C because its such a meta warping card. Verte is also going to need a ban soon. Otherwise DPE is going to run the format when it gets added. Hell, Verte still needs to be banned in the TCG for exactly that reason.

Originally posted by Pepper:

As much as I agree with you, they need somehow to trim down the number of OP decks in ranked. Making a post like this is only going to draw in all the over-competitive players spamming ♥♥♥♥ like git gud, or it's a skill issue bla bla bla. Because they don't want to admit how broken a lot of decks are because most of them can't win without using a broken deck.

people always get salty when people suggest that cards from their deck, PARTICULARLY cards they crutch on, should get banned or limited. Its their innate bias talking.

[Kissa]

Originally posted by Merik Lobo:

I didn't even know vanity's emptiness was prevalent enough to ban right now. It might be, but idk. and I agree with Gredora on Buster Sword. otherwise, yeah everything else you mentioned needs to be banned or limited. In fact, the need to do more to shake up the entire metagame. Maxx C needs to go too. If it goes off and you have no answer to it the game is over before it starts. That's no fun. It doesn't even do anything to combat the meta combo decks since they run it to and the results are the same. Maxx C going through successfully decides the match 9 times out of 10. Hell, at least half of the hand traps people run are just to counter Maxx C because its such a meta warping card.

i haven't really seen that one much yet but maybe the platinum people will have it more. most issues i have come from the opponent successfully summoning something really powerful that is also protected against most things without such cards. i would need consistent good draw luck to have even a small chance against those can't be destroyed by battle or card effects opponents :D

[gaylard]

idk there's always going to be obnoxious meta strats since the goal of yugioh is to aggravate your opponent as much as possible. like even removing all these cards there's still stuff like prank-kids.
i think its more likely that it's that the ranked system has such a low ceiling with literally only 2 ranks that these decks are unavoidable and there's no reason to play that much since there's no reason to climb. also the terrible rate at which we get new content despite there being tons of assets/cosmetics already hidden in the game for some reason. we've gotten what, like 3 mates, and like 6 usable cards in 3 months?

[MancakeBR]

Let's break this down.

Eva, yes ban that, the fact it can search another copy of itself while fueling hand for Herald, it's almost impossible to play around if you didn't use Maxx "C" and draw into either Nib or a Kaiju.

Benten in my opinion is fine at 3, but it isn't ban worthy. At most it'll be limited.

Rhongo needs to be banned as it only has 1 realistic out (Xyz Encore).

VFD I don't see a problem with this card. It has never bothered me.

Imperial Order, I see you play Sky Strikers ;)

Vanity's Emptiness isn't doing anything.

Dragon Buster Sword? No the card is fine, you need to hit Union Carrier as it sets that play up as well as can make an infinite negate.

Scythe is also fine. We have a ton of outs to it, so use them.

[MancakeBR]

Originally posted by gredora:

Originally posted by Pepper:

As much as I agree with you, they need somehow to trim down the number of OP decks in ranked. Making a post like this is only going to draw in all the over-competitive players spamming ♥♥♥♥ like git gud, or it's a skill issue bla bla bla. Because they don't want to admit how broken a lot of decks are because most of them can't win without using a broken deck.

I could put Chaos Max on this list because it beat me one time out of 1000 games and it would trigger the players playing that deck. Of course people are not gonna be happy that their deck is gonna get hit not matter what you play. (there's actually some Blackwing players that were upset that Steam and Gofu are banned).

There were even people that disagreed that Rhongo shouldn't get banned before it did.

If I recall, blackwing players didn't play Gofu as it's tokens couldn't be used to synchro summon. Then the fact even if you searched it by Black Whirlwind, you couldn't paly it.

Metalfoes and Monarch players didn't want Gofu to go though. (Me being a Metalfoes player at the time).

[Energon Vlada]

What a clickbait title

[MancakeBR]

Originally posted by Vlada Cut:

What a clickbait title

It actually did lose 90% of its players since release.

[Merik Lobo]

Originally posted by MancakeBR:

Scythe is also fine. We have a ton of outs to it, so use them.

People have adopted the strategy of infinitely recurring Scythe with Barrone De Fleur. Having a few outs isn't good enough for it anymore. It needs to go.

[MancakeBR]

Originally posted by Merik Lobo:

Originally posted by MancakeBR:

Scythe is also fine. We have a ton of outs to it, so use them.

People have adopted the strategy of infinitely recurring Scythe with Barrone De Fleur. Having a few outs isn't good enough for it anymore. It needs to go.

Imperm, Breakthrough Skill, D.D. Crow, Ghost Belle & Haunted Mansion, Skill Drain, Ash Blossom (if it'd be played from the deck), Called By and many more.

[Helzer]

"Just draw the out or get locked out of the extra deck"
How is this fair again?

[Merik Lobo]

Originally posted by Helzer:

"Just draw the out or get locked out of the extra deck"
How is this fair again?

Its not. he's hard coping. Like we said earlier, people don't like it when you suggest their crutch cards should be banned.

[ObsidianButterfly]

Anyone remember when the Extra Deck was basically useless because the only thing that went in it were Fusions and 99% of them were garbage?

Peppridge Farm remembers.

[MancakeBR]

Originally posted by Merik Lobo:

Originally posted by Helzer:

"Just draw the out or get locked out of the extra deck"
How is this fair again?

Its not. he's hard coping. Like we said earlier, people don't like it when you suggest their crutch cards should be banned.

You know what they say about assumptions, it only makes an ass out of you. No I don't run Scythe Package, but it isn't a problem.