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Coyote796 2022 年 3 月 19 日 下午 1:16
D.D Dynamite should be emergency limited/banned!
First off, I run Linguribo (the one that negates traps) and only 13 cards in my extra deck but even so why should I only run 13 cards in my extra deck because this super consistent FTK exists, and the people who don't know to run 13 extra deck cards get super punished.

FTK are bad enough but this is just too consistent to be ignored and it directly affects the way the game is made, basically making the extra deck 2 slots less.

This card needs to be emergency banned/limited ASAP, it is stupid Konami has not already done so considering the way it hurts the game.

P.S, I think D.D Dynamite should be semi-limited/unlimited, just after Konami decides how for it not to directly hurt the game anymore.
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Etrusco 2022 年 3 月 19 日 下午 10:33 
How consistent are the D.D Dynamite decks? Like if I play 10 duels going second against them with no hand traps to interrupt them, how many times are they going to end up 1 with 1 Banquet of Millions + 2 D.D dynamite on the field?
Phrasmotic 2022 年 3 月 19 日 下午 10:37 
引用自 Etrusco
How consistent are the D.D Dynamite decks? Like if I play 10 duels going second against them with no hand traps to interrupt them, how many times are they going to end up 1 with 1 Banquet of Millions + 2 D.D dynamite on the field?

The problem is it's mostly bots using them, and the bots are programmed to scoop if they brick, lose the coinflip, or go against a deck with a 13 or less card extra deck. That's why it seems like a much bigger problem than it should be - you only see the deck when it works against you.
Etrusco 2022 年 3 月 19 日 下午 10:47 
引用自 Phrasmotic
The problem is it's mostly bots using them, and the bots are programmed to scoop if they brick, lose the coinflip, or go against a deck with a 13 or less card extra deck. That's why it seems like a much bigger problem than it should be - you only see the deck when it works against you.

So just by using a deck that wants to go first I have a 50% of insta winning against the bots? And even if they win the coin toss there is still a good chance I can win by doing nothing if they don't draw the cards they need turn 1?

On average they are going to lose most games, Master Duel has limited rewards for playing multiple games per day meaning you can't "farm" gems with the bot. What's the point of the bot then?

Edit: typos.
最后由 Etrusco 编辑于; 2022 年 3 月 19 日 下午 10:52
Ayrie 2022 年 3 月 19 日 下午 11:20 
引用自 Etrusco
On average they are going to lose most games, Master Duel has limited rewards for playing multiple games per day meaning you can't "farm" gems with the bot. What's the point of the bot then?
Although they will lose more games than they win, the bots win enough games in a given time period that those who use the bots are apparently making up to 1000 gems per day. Whatever "limited rewards" Konami put in isn't enough to deter this crap... =/
Hua Po 2022 年 3 月 19 日 下午 11:38 
Jesus, 1k per day? You could pull a new deck per month if you managed it properly.
Etrusco 2022 年 3 月 19 日 下午 11:41 
引用自 Ayrie
Although they will lose more games than they win, the bots win enough games in a given time period that those who use the bots are apparently making up to 1000 gems per day. Whatever "limited rewards" Konami put in isn't enough to deter this crap... =/

You can't magically obtain extra 850-900 daily gems just because you are using a bot, the only way it could work is IF you sell the bot and buy the 1000 gems with money. In this way the bot is "making" 1000 gems.
Papa Shekels 2022 年 3 月 20 日 上午 12:20 
引用自 Etrusco
You can't magically obtain extra 850-900 daily gems just because you are using a bot, the only way it could work is IF you sell the bot and buy the 1000 gems with money. In this way the bot is "making" 1000 gems.
Can I please know who the ♥♥♥♥ is supposedly paying for bots with a few hundred extra gems when you can make a new account and get 20k gems with no effort?
Raven 2022 年 3 月 20 日 上午 1:37 
引用自 Phrasmotic
引用自 Raven
Honestly? After reading his rants for 3 pages, the main issue seems to be that whatever deck he's playing can't function without the full 15 cards, he's literally pissed about that fact the most. Given responses, he might just be allergic to 13 cards since its an odd or unlucky number. I mean, nothing stops going to 12, but his biggest gripe is he just wants his two card slots back...what deck is so dependent you *NEED* all 15 cards?

I find it bizzare that people think playing with less than 15 cards is ok or normal, tbh. Most good decks and pretty much every meta deck will always be using every single slot in their extra deck, either as a toolbox, boss monsters, or even just as targets for Pots. Playing with less than 15 cards objectively makes your deck worse.

That's pretty bad logic, I'll tell you why. I will firstly admit: You're right about it being objectively worse, it is. More options and utility is better than not having it. THAT SAID! I would hazard a guess that people realistically only use 4-5 of the same cards of their extra deck, and those contingencies are quite abnormal to come up. I dare say the most frequent use of having a full extra deck is to make use of pot of extravagance. I do not know of, nor seen, anyone who constantly is using all 15 extra deck cards in most of their games. Or even half their games.

Is it worse to have less? objectively, sure. In practice? Extremely doubtful. Most people usually wind up filling up extra copies of cards they rather have dupes of, its extremely rare to find someone that's using a literal 1 of each utility extra deck. The ones I do see aren't actually using their extra deck, its just full for the sake of aforementioned cards and that benefit from messing with other people's extra decks.
Coyote796 2022 年 3 月 20 日 上午 3:21 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_44SKzwUKU

"OnlY YoU HavIng aN IssUe"
"ThE DecK IsNT ConSIstENT"
"CrY MoRe"

Woke up to see Dzeefs video this morning, then logged on and people still White Knighting D.D Dynamite.
So it's only me having and issue and think the 13 extra thing is not right?
Wait till more Yu-Gi-Tuber's come out and complain about this deck, and I 100% bet the White Knights here will act like this thread never happened....
Not argument it is now FACT, the D.D Dynamite deck is an issue, so please stop White Knighting ffs....
最后由 Coyote796 编辑于; 2022 年 3 月 20 日 上午 3:22
KenderMystic 2022 年 3 月 20 日 上午 3:25 
引用自 Coyote796
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_44SKzwUKU

"OnlY YoU HavIng aN IssUe"
"ThE DecK IsNT ConSIstENT"
"CrY MoRe"

Woke up to see Dzeefs video this morning, then logged on and people still White Knighting D.D Dynamite.
So it's only me having and issue and think the 13 extra thing is not right?
Wait till more Yu-Gi-Tuber's come out and complain about this deck, and I 100% bet the White Knights here will act like this thread never happened....
Not argument it is now FACT, the D.D Dynamite deck is an issue, so please stop White Knighting ffs....
Yugitubers will gladly capitalize on what people are talking about for the purpose of making a video.
Raven 2022 年 3 月 20 日 上午 3:34 
引用自 Coyote796
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_44SKzwUKU

"OnlY YoU HavIng aN IssUe"
"ThE DecK IsNT ConSIstENT"
"CrY MoRe"

Woke up to see Dzeefs video this morning, then logged on and people still White Knighting D.D Dynamite.
So it's only me having and issue and think the 13 extra thing is not right?
Wait till more Yu-Gi-Tuber's come out and complain about this deck, and I 100% bet the White Knights here will act like this thread never happened....
Not argument it is now FACT, the D.D Dynamite deck is an issue, so please stop White Knighting ffs....

you keep using the phrase "white knighting". I don't think it means what you think it means.

and for the record, nobody is trying to protect it (I assume that's what you think you mean by that), or justify it, we're just saying...its not a big deal. You are having a big deal with it. I'm not sorry that you can't deal with some thing the way you want it to be handled, there isn't a big quick fix that happens from whining here. You're honestly whining in the wrong place, instead of here where NOTHING is going to happen, go to konami's support, it literally has a link in game for it. THAT is where you can try to get things changed. For everyone else, since there is no fast fix, we make do with what works. Again, not sorry that isn't good enough for you.
最后由 Raven 编辑于; 2022 年 3 月 20 日 上午 3:37
Vivianite 2022 年 3 月 20 日 上午 4:48 
imagine being this tilted over avoidable effect damage
minipok2011 2022 年 3 月 20 日 上午 5:26 
i have to take a pause of this game . just today i faced the deck 6 time , just now 2 in a row . there's almost no counter play whatsover and high plat is full of this ♥♥♥♥ .

we do indeed need an emergency ban list to adresse this issue
minipok2011 2022 年 3 月 20 日 上午 5:28 
引用自 Vivianite
imagine being this tilted over avoidable effect damage
its not avoidable in the slightest , if they go first which they do 50% of the time you 100% will lose and if you go first you still have to play a counter to that deck even without knowing what the deck even is . at best its winnable 5% of the time
Giallombardo 2022 年 3 月 20 日 上午 5:55 
引用自 minipok2011
i have to take a pause of this game . just today i faced the deck 6 time , just now 2 in a row . there's almost no counter play whatsover and high plat is full of this ♥♥♥♥ .

we do indeed need an emergency ban list to adresse this issue

Just surrender or use 13 extra deck cards, why making it difficult
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