Modern Yugioh Rulings literally make no sense

[Demigod Dan]

Ok, so imagine being a Yugioh player who actually reads the card effects right. Here's but an example of why the game is broken beyond redemption because effects literally no longer work the way they are described:

Numeron Network:

"During your Main Phase, send 1 "Numeron" Normal Spell Card that meets its activation conditions from your Deck to the GY; this effect becomes that Spell's effect when that card is activated"

Masked Hero Dark Law:

"Any card sent to your opponent's GY is banished instead"

The way the wording is wrong = in the use of the word "Sent". This is past tense nor does it say "Would be" (preventive), implying that the card is banished AFTER sending it to the graveyard is resolved. For this effect to work as it currently does (preventing any card that sends a card to the graveyard to work), it should say the following instead:

"Any cards that would be sent to your opponent's GY are banished instead. Any effect that involves sending a card (or cards) to your opponent's GY in order to activate another effect cannot be activated."

There, that wasn't so hard was it?

These incompetent effect designers have no problem releasing full-on essay cards that makes letters so small you can barely read them (on irl cards), but they can't properly specify / correctly write out what a card effect does. The above example particularly gets to me because the actual effect literally defies the wording of the card effect, so you need to memorize it and it's unreasonable to expect that given the low # of times you encounter it overall. There are several other instances like this as well. Has there ever been a good counter argument against this? Cause I assume it must've been brought up somewhere before.

Idk what happened; maybe the team who designed YGO card effects left at one point and got replaced by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ApGLZoqsi0 , pretending to know what they're doing? That sure would explain what the recent brainless omni negate / one trick pony meta caters towards as well...

[Gambot]

The thing you're actually getting confused about here is mostly that you don't know how costs work and how they're signified, and that's completely fine since it isn't explained anywhere.
It has very little to do with Dark Law's effect, which makes it clear that your cards can't touch the graveyard at any point, since they're banished INSTEAD of going to the graveyard.

Originally posted by Demigod Dan:

Yeah you've met every YGO player ever.

I've met literal hundreds of them face to face.

Originally posted by Demigod Dan:

Not going to argue it any further because holy **** the fanboyism lmao, You'd even defend something that simply cannot be logically defended.

[Ichmag 🔑🌙]

"Instead"

[temper]

If you think the modern card text doesn't make any sense, you should go read some of the old cards before the text on them got errata'd like 20 times. They're way too overly specific for no reason at all, kind of like how you want them now.

Example: https://imgur.com/xn2PRIB

What's "confusing" to you is already common sense to everyone that's been playing the game for a while. We don't need cards to explain what a special summon is or that special summoned cards need to be face up (unless the card says otherwise), etc. The player should already know the rules before playing the game.

[maged_90]

Originally posted by Demigod Dan:

Originally posted by Gambot:

You're the only person I've ever met that doesn't understand Dark Law (and Macro Cosmos/D-Fissure) makes cards that get sent to the grave get banished instead of getting sent to the grave and it doesn't banish the cards after they go into the grave, so it's really not necessary.

Regarding the thing where you can't activate Network because you can't successfully pay the cost for its activation, that's a game rule and it doesn't need to be written on the cards. Unless you want cards to have every associated ruling printed on them, which would make everything barring normal monsters several pages long, that is.

Yeah you've met every YGO player ever. It's not a lack of understanding but a matter of memorizing. I forgot. However, the point of it being entirely possible to make it more clear what the effect does by using just a few words more still stands.

If you take what the effect says literally, then Network should be able to activate Calling from the deck/hand. After that, Calling gets banished because the GY part is resolved, aka 'has been sent'.

Not going to argue it any further because holy **** the fanboyism lmao, You'd even defend something that simply cannot be logically defended. Literally 2+2 = 5 stuff over here.

he never said "every player"
he said those he met, and clearly some were failed by the education system but to address your "fanboyism" theory

when both me and my friend were new to the game's "proper" side and new to every ruling including MST not negating we stumbled upon a similar interaction where cost could not be paid due to a card effect
I understood it due to the clear labels such as "cost" and if i can't pay it i can't use the card
and he is more technical and understood it through the basic rules of the game
granted we watched rick and morty so we had a very high IQ that made understanding YGO rulings very easy


look i won't deny that some YGO rulings can be complex but those don't come up a lot in casual play where im assumong you reside although you tryhard a good deck to get terrible results, these rulings pop up in higher play when each opponent is trying to use every aspect of the game since they know it

for example which effect resolves first from monsters that floated after a dark hole? to you that doesn't matter but say one of the effects was to banish a card from the opponet's grave? that will be very important and so a ruling will have to be made for all similar situations in the future.... such rulings birthed chain blocking

a casual example is if you have avramax attacking avramax, or two monsters with the moon shield equip spell attacking each other
who resolves first loses the interaction
so rules had to be made, it can't arbitrary or vague and unfortunately some are too niche to write in a rule book
the one's that are general enough to be written are written in an offical rulings webpage but they would confuse you, not a general you but you Demigod dan... what an arrogant title

[ShakablePilot51]

For the sake of saving space on the card text. Konami uses keywords and resrved characters. When an effect has a ";" the sentence before the ";" is a cost and condition for a trigger effect that chains, if the cost cannot be paid and/or the conditions are not met, the effect cannot be activated. When an effect has a ":" the sentence before the ":" is a trigger effect without cost, just conditions.

Therefore, the cost cannot be paid and the effect of numeron field spell cannot be activated.

Haven't read any of the comments, too many. Hope this helps.

[ShakablePilot51]

Originally posted by ShakablePilot51:

For the sake of saving space on the card text. Konami uses keywords and resrved characters. When an effect has a ";" the sentence before the ";" is a cost and condition for a trigger effect that chains, if the cost cannot be paid and/or the conditions are not met, the effect cannot be activated. When an effect has a ":" the sentence before the ":" is a trigger effect without cost, just conditions.

Therefore, the cost cannot be paid and the effect of numeron field spell cannot be activated.

Haven't read any of the comments, too many. Hope this helps.

Similar to how Rush Duel cards have a "Requirement" paragraph and "Effect" paragraph.

[Sheepman]

Do you not know what "instead" means.

Like are you the Numeron player in this scenario? Because lol makes sense.

[EXO]

Imagine making a post with a wall of text and not knowing the meaning of the word Instead.
This is taking YGO players dont read to a whole new level.

[Otto]

So, to clarify things while ignoring everything going on in here, I'll just leave this stuff here.

Darklaw uses the exact same wording as Macro Cosmos and similar wording to DiFi. This is also the most succinct way to clarify the effect; hence the word "instead" at the end of Darklaw's banishing clause. Since cards can no longer be sent to the graveyard with Darklaw on the field, cards like Numeron Network, Maxx "C" and Ash Blossom cannot activate, as they specify that the card in question must be sent to grave as cost for their effects to activate.

The ruling makes sense.

It's not the exact ruling but here's the example:
https://db.ygorganization.com/qa#9234

[Silamon]

Your errata says the same thing but with extra words.

The card gets banished INSTEAD OF being sent to the graveyard. It's not that hard to understand.

[Papa Shekels]

I suggest you read up on problem solving card text, it was designed a decade ago for the exact purpose of avoiding this thread. Banished instead of sent to the graveyard - cards never hit the graveyard. Cost requires sending to the graveyard - you can no longer pay the cost. It isn't any more complicated than that

[Heatnixx]

I see nothing wrong with what you described OP. A card must be able to fulfill its activation requirements or else they can't be activated.
It's why you can't use Zombie Master on an empty graveyard.

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by BlitzØ:

I see nothing wrong with what you described OP. A card must be able to fulfill its activation requirements or else they can't be activated.
It's why you can't use Zombie Master on an empty graveyard.

But if you already had a zombie in the graveyard you can instead resurrect the one you discarded, because lol. (I know I sound flippant but this really is how it works)

[Angel]

the card wasn't sent to the graveyard, so you can't activate it, pretty simple

[Silamon]

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

Originally posted by BlitzØ:

I see nothing wrong with what you described OP. A card must be able to fulfill its activation requirements or else they can't be activated.
It's why you can't use Zombie Master on an empty graveyard.

But if you already had a zombie in the graveyard you can instead resurrect the one you discarded, because lol. (I know I sound flippant but this really is how it works)

You have to be able to fulfill the effect in order to activate it is why. If there is no target to summon you can't activate it, but nothing stopping you from resurrecting the discarded card after activating it.