Draw is legit rigged

[FlintX]

Turn 5: "Card Trader" is on field. My turn start and I proceed to draw "Saber Reflection." My only card on hand.
I send it back to pull another card...
Proceed to draw "Saber Reflection" again out of 50 cards. In a deck of 56 cards total.

Sure, I have 3 copies of it in the deck but even so.

Not that I've never seen this happening before with "Card Trader" in YugiohPro, even with a single copy of a card in the deck. But comon, the odds are ridiculous. The RGN algorithy they use into those games is really fishy. It has to have some catch to it.

Anyways, the negationists will just come here say that there is nothing strange about and everything is RGN working as it should.

[KenderMystic]

Daddy's back! I missed you!

[FlintX]

gameing původně napsal:

I like how you like to group everyone who disagrees with you as meta sheep. People who play rogue decks and fun decks aren't out here complaining about the draw, it's just you. A bunch of screenshots aren't proof, it's most likely confirmation bias or you underestimating the likelyhood of streaks, if you want to make a real study, record thousands of hands and compare it to what the rng should be. Then people might just take you seriously. But until then, you are a delusional sore loser in the eyes of the steam forums.

Jesus, people who play Yugioh can't read at all lmao.
For the last time I'm not complaining about anything dude. I see people still didn't get nothing out of this topic. I'm literally just stating the draw is rigged and that it. Is that hard to understand that?
People who disagrees with that did they mockery already, and I already posted evidence of my claims too. For god sake, please stop twisting the topic point to another subject that has nothing to do with it if you don't want to hear more salty replies. It is just cringe.
Seriously, people nowadays really needs to improve their reading skills because apparently they only thing they can do is copy/paste stuff or type 2 lines of nonsense and insults.

And you clearly haven't read anything in this post past the title and the first description, otherwise you would see that I'm not just talking out of my ass for a thing that happend a couple times or so. I've linked 2 videos showing how unrealistic the odd of getting single copies of certain cards in big sized decks in a row, at the very starting hands or few draws later doesn't really fit to your "it is RGN working as it should". Not to mention that cards also does seems to appear paired up with other specific cards too often in a particular deck. In such way you can actually manipulate how many copies of a specific card you want in deck and pretty much predict that another card will show up next to those said cards, because the odds for it to happen are magically higher for some mysterious reason and happens way to often for mere coincidence. Also shuffling a single card from your hand or GY to the deck just for drawing the exact same card in your next draw, out of 30+ cards. Things that people can replicate for their own by using the exact same examples I gave or whatever else and take their own conclusion.

[Judgmental Amaterasu]

r/conspiracy

[Ichmag 🔑🌙]

Big Bridge.mp4 původně napsal:

r/conspiracy

more like r/theory cuz this is a proven hypothesis

[Dan Niton]

If complaining that draw is rigged in an ai match, that I might understand. But against pvp, that is just paranoia.

[Judgmental Amaterasu]

Ichmag původně napsal:

Big Bridge.mp4 původně napsal:

r/conspiracy

more like r/theory cuz this is a proven hypothesis

r/flatearth

[FlintX]

gameing původně napsal:

You accuse me of not reading while you ignore the most important part of my post and go off on minor details of my post. The biggest issue here is that you are using small examples to claim that the entire drawing system is somehow rigged. Drawing like 6 hands on video is about as much proof as those screenshots, and what is to say that the sample draws are the same as draws in pvp? I'll say it again just in case it goes over your head again, the "evidence" you have is meaningless, go make some real evidence if you want to convince anyone that the draw is rigged. Go sample thousands of hands, not tens and do it across multiple decks. Until then, your claims are completely baseless. You are deluded in how valid what little evidence you have is, you think you have groundbreaking 100% proof but in reality you have nothing and you will convince no one.

Do you know what the concept of sample means? Or replication by any chance?
But okay then, I will go on my way of keep clicking on "sample 5 cards draw" for 10 hours straight and upload a video of it. Let's see how many people will sit and watch through the whole thing to collect the data. I could come back and claim that a X result repeated itself for more than 70% of the time in such interval of time, yet I really doubt anyone would go and watch everything to confirm such claim. Genius.
That's why the first video is short to simulate like 10 hands in row or 10 duels in a row if you like. To see the odds of specific cards showing up in the starting hand in that many duels.
While the second video had no sample limit and shows more of that, plus how specific cards are more likely to appear paired up or ordered really close to each other on starting hands/subsequent draws after one particular card shows up.
This doesn't limit just to what was in the video if this is what you trying to imply here. It happened the several times I clicked off camera while testing the cards combination and happened just as often after I clicked the record button to make the video. I'm sorry, but for me this is enough to see that there's definitely something fishy going on.

As I already said you don't have to take my word on this. You can keep clicking all day and gonna see this repeating endless way to often compared to what realistic odds would represent. Again, just try it and see for yourself.
And yes, the phenomenon is present in PvP. If you had read anything past the topic title and lastest replies you would know that. However it has been observed that going first or second does seems to affect which cards are more likely to show up. But it needs further testing.

Anyways, the fact that you simple ignored the frequency those events shows up in a so small sample size is laughable.
Also, I never said it is guaranteed that specific cards gonna show up in starting hands or draws. All I've said is that the chances for them to show up seems to be higher under the presence of some circumstances.
The cards showing up paired up or close by to specific others in a particular deck IS AN ACTUAL THING. I already got confirmation of that in the many tests I did using single copies of cards in 40, 50, and even 60 card decks. What remains a mystery is what exactly triggers this.

[Papa Shekels]

FlintX původně napsal:

Do you know what the concept of sample means? Or replication by any chance?
But okay then, I will go on my way of keep clicking on "sample 5 cards draw" for 10 hours straight and upload a video of it. Let's see how many people will sit and watch through the whole thing to collect the data. I could come back and claim that a X result repeated itself for more than 70% of the time in such interval of time, yet I really doubt anyone would go and watch everything to confirm such claim. Genius.

Do you know what they mean? Because your idea of that seems to be post an insignificant sample size and use it for a claim that even a high school stats teacher would laugh at, telling everybody else to go replicate it if they don't believe you.

But yes, if you really feel so strongly about this, go ahead and do it for 10 hours. Record it all and upload it somewhere unedited and uncut. You know what the difference there would be? You would have a claim that would actually hold some weight behind it, unlike all of your previous posts, because (rough math of 1 hand a second for 10 hours) 36000 is a real sample size indicative of an actual pattern. Anybody wanting to argue against that would have to first prove the results were faked, instead of getting to logically dismiss you on account of having insignificant evidence in the first place. All you have done up to this point is pretend that you have provided any part of your burden of proof; a 10 hour unedited take would actually serve as that

[【𝙎𝙥𝙚𝙠】🧉]

Oh no, Konami now banned Big Bridge

[FlintX]

Yeah yeah, I indeed plan on doing a bigger video once I've figured out how set up decks where the consistency can be easily observed. And see if an entire deck can be build around the rigged paired cards. But I'm pretty sure people will just find another excuse to dismiss whatever evidence is presented to them anyway.
Obviously if the game was blatant rigged this topic would not be necessary in the first place.
Maybe if you meta slaves started playing with decks there aren't fully made of cards that can search the entire deck and 3 copies of each you would start to see some fishy odds as well.

So far here some cards that have been observed to appear in starting hands and paired/close to each other with frequency:

Raigeki and Memory of Adversary¹ (in a 50 cards Ninja deck).

Saber Vault¹ and Sword of Sparkles¹.
(Single copy. Appeared in multiple X-Saber decks of variable sizes)

Raigeki and Black Hole¹
(a 60 cards test deck fully made of single copies of just traps and spell cards)

Single copy of cards observed to have high odds of showing up at starting hand/early draws regardless of deck size:

Sword of the Conceiling Light
Lightning Storm
Raigeki
Harpie's Feather Duster
Monster Reborn
Morphing Jar #2
Card Trader
Supply Squad
Shard of Greed
Autonomous Action Unit
Dark Hole
Nightmare Steelcage
Memory of Adversary
Fiendish Chain
Storming Mirror Force
Void Trap Hole
Swallow Flip
Theatening Roar

[Hua Po]

Everyone is hating on you, but I'm interested. I find That Grass Looks Greener comes up way too often in my first hand while running a 60 card deck. It could be a coincidence or just odds, but it would be nice if somebody actually checked the math behind these things just to make sure it's as accurate as it should be.

[Prokaizer]

Only fools bealive that the RNG is completely random, heck even what deck your opponent will use is predetermined from the system.
Only games with very low population are matching you with random people, due to the high loading times.
The coin flip, the starting hand, everything is predetermined.
Only "SOLO" 100% pure skill games, like Arcade, Car racing, Sport games etc. do not rely on pseudo RNG.
Even MOBA games like League of Legends have pseudo RNG, so you don't get a ridiculous high Win/Loss ratio.

[Kissa]

i feel like the rng becomes irrelevant if you are a good deck builder. there are people that will always have the right cards without fail. no matter what cards they draw they will always be able to do the complex xyz, pendulum and fusion summons.its pretty hard to do anything to that if you are only given spells and traps and everything on the field happens to be of the type that says they are invulnerable to card effects

[Ichmag 🔑🌙]

Spek původně napsal:

Oh no, Konami now banned Big Bridge

The plot thickens. Maybe OP is actually working with Konami now, to distract us from a greater issue

[Kissa]

this has been a weird day. almost all cards i have been drawing have been spells or traps. maybe i should take advantage of this and dump all my monster cards for spells and traps that can be used without them :D