Is this game really that bad?

[Catpuppy]

I loved Nioh and Nioh 2, I've played hundreds upon hundreds of hours of both. I was very sad to see what the launch of Wo Long was like, so I decided I'd wait for when all the DLC is released... But the reviews are still so bad, and for the DLCs as well.
What's so awful about Wo Long compared to Nioh?

[Mike]

I was an early adopter of Wo Long on release and like many people I did not like it much, because many of the combat systems were far too limiting compared to Nioh 2 and many deisng decisions were just plain stupid imo. However after DLC2, which overhauled much of the games core systems, I did a 180 on the game, started a fresh playthough and fell in love with the combat enough to grind through all of the difficulties into endgame and while its still not topping Nioh 2 its probably one of my favorite games of last year.

One of the biggest reasons Wo Long got such bad reviews is that the optimization/performance was all over the place, so some people just could not enjoy the game. As of now I don't have much issues with the performance as long as I keep it locked at 60fps (plays smooth as butter locked at 60), but some others still claim performance is not fixed for them. Also some are still upset at the state of the initial release and it not being Nioh 3, even though most if not all of those issues have been resolved at this point.

I would recommend it in its complete state but I would caution to keep the playtime under 2hrs to test out performance first as some can play the game perfectly and some have frame drops and other performance issues. I will also note that you should have your expectations set appropriately as this game is NOT Nioh 3 as many expected and this game is simpler then Nioh 2 as it does not have the same combat system (no stances), but it has its own systems and depth to master as with all TN games.

So if you want a fun Action RPG, with tight/flashy combat that is simpler then Nioh's, that still has tons of fun build diversity with its spell system, and has that Team Ninja flair then I would recommend you give this game a try for yourself. If it does not grab you within the 2hr time frame refund, simple.

[ZenienSight]

Definitely try out the demo and keep replaying it to see if you like it still after maybe an hour or two. I too am a Nioh 1-2 veteran and came away from this game very disappointed (most Nioh veterans do). It's not sh*t, but it's not great.

Mike has the right idea, if you find the demo enjoyable enough, and can get the game on sale, it'll probably at least burn a good tens of hours. You've probably also heard this but, if you're not a fan of parrying, fast-paced, flashy combat (even more so compared to Nioh 1-2) then you won't like this game at all.

I'm actually pretty bad at parrying in games so this game was much harder for me than Nioh. (Probably also contributed to me not liking it as much)

[Mike]

Originally posted by ZenienSight:

Definitely try out the demo and keep replaying it to see if you like it still after maybe an hour or two. I too am a Nioh 1-2 veteran and came away from this game very disappointed (most Nioh veterans do). It's not sh*t, but it's not great.

Mike has the right idea, if you find the demo enjoyable enough, and can get the game on sale, it'll probably at least burn a good tens of hours. You've probably also heard this but, if you're not a fan of parrying, fast-paced, flashy combat (even more so compared to Nioh 1-2) then you won't like this game at all.

I'm actually pretty bad at parrying in games so this game was much harder for me than Nioh. (Probably also contributed to me not liking it as much)

Yeah its interesting how some people find Wo Long too easy because the deflect is so strong, but if parrying is not your thing I could see how this game would be much harder then past TN games and would turn you off from the game.

I personally found the game the easier of the TN games with Strangers of Paradise being the most punishing and Nioh 2 being right behind it.

[Crymoarlolx]

Originally posted by Catpuppy:

What's so awful about Wo Long compared to Nioh?

People

[Dennis]

Game is good but the DLCs are dogwater. Some of the worst.

[Mike]

Originally posted by Dennis:

Game is good but the DLCs are dogwater. Some of the worst.

How? Nioh 2's DLCs were very similar in length and had similar content (2-3 main missions, 2-3 side missions, new weapons,new endgame,...etc).

If you liked Nioh's DLCs better that is fine but content wise they are very much the same, as I recently did a fresh Nioh 2 run and the length of the DLC missions very similar to Wo Long's.

The only thing Nioh 2 did better was the level design, but everything else was very similar to Nioh 1 and Nioh 2's DLCs

[DucGrandma]

I mean, if you stop comparing this game with Nioh 2 and treat it like an independent product, then it is a solid game.

[✙205🍉🐆→]

Try the demo version, I have 12% of microstaters, which is very bad for playing at least 60fps.

[FyreTeGo]

It's okay, not good not bad. The demo is basically the whole game if you made it 20 hours long. There is no new things, just some interesting areas and bosses. Gameplay stays the same. Boring game.

[kripcision]

the game is solid. its my favourite game of 2023.

[SFJake]

I think the "mixed rating" on Steam just tells you how much of a joke the system is, I've seen bottom feeding but popular trash, auto-clickers, mobile-level grindy trash and tons of other games with dreadfully basic gameplay get Very Positive here.

Is this game their best work? No, but its a solid 7/10 game at least.

[Račić]

played the demo - I found the morale system really annoying, bcs u have to search through levels and find flags otherwise u stay really weak.. but if u die with high morale system without finding a flag u loose it all, u can gain it back by taking revenge but if it's on a high level enemy u'll have a hard time getting it back (aguess i'm bad idk). Bcs of this i just end up ignoring the mob levels and going straight to the boss, which are easy to parry even tho the bossess are cool they're not hard not even when you'r 5-6 levels behind... I also had trouble rebinding keys - i had like 15 throwing knives but couldn't find a way to switch to them bcs of the base key config which is terrible u start of having to parry with tab... like why??? and then i had swap out bunch of keys just since there's so many actions ur guy can do different combo buttons to press i just got frustrated changing the keys around. lies of p demo didn't do this to me, after playing out it out the game felt amazing (everything felt right) but this is just annoying game design.

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

It is usually the Nioh people telling you it is bad. Even when there are a lot of people who also prefer this game over Nioh. Steam reviews is mostly about the bad PC port.

Try the game and make you own decision. Good or bad is subjective to individuals. Something the Nioh 3 Weebo Experts don't seems to get. So they rage here to mislead anyone or simply attack them for enjoying the game. It hurts them if you like it.

[Senki]

it's not bad, worse combat than Nioh 2 but still fun enough

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

Originally posted by Senki:

it's not bad, worse combat than Nioh 2 but still fun enough

Nah, Nioh 2 combat is cheese spells. Then pretend to do combos. So DEEP.