Zhao Yun's cheapass blender move

[ArcaneMaverick]

Instead of programming some actually good AI and having an enemy be more active, they just cheat by having him do an unblockable high damaging blender spin move as soon as you attack him. Such dumb ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Alex]

It gets worse with the other side quests. Why I skipped a few fights. Zhao Yun is killable along with a few others but damn was there some bull in the other fights.

[Shinkiro]

Jesus this is at least your 5th thread in the last 4 hours, you're on here complaining more than you are playing the game. You dont need to keep spamming threads for every little thing dude..

[Apex Jaggi]

I fought Zhao Yun using a glaive, as I've done for the whole game. The glaive has the second slowest swing speed in the game and I never felt like his moves gave me no time to attack. You're just doing something wrong.

[ArcaneMaverick]

Beat the game on first new game. Now I see which fights and weapons and skills and magic are good/bad. The red spam when you can't react to it is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ (xiahous doing two each especially with incredible reach and sometimes off camera is crazy) but the game does want you to slow down. Honestly just deflects and spirit attacks make it really easy which is honestly sad.

[ArcaneMaverick]

Originally posted by Shinkiro:

Jesus this is at least your 5th thread in the last 4 hours, you're on here complaining more than you are playing the game. You dont need to keep spamming threads for every little thing dude..

Because I was playing the game concurrently. Stream of conscious posts. I also submitted lots of bug reports to help when I encountered or could replicate them. You're welcome. Rather my posts instead of the endless complaints about mouse and keyboard or people too dumb to run the game properly.

[ArcaneMaverick]

Originally posted by Shyke Wolfe:

I fought Zhao Yun using a glaive, as I've done for the whole game. The glaive has the second slowest swing speed in the game and I never felt like his moves gave me no time to attack. You're just doing something wrong.

Glaive is super good. Hammers/Poleaxe, not so much. Faster weapons are better but Glaives are very good.

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by ArcaneMaverick:

Originally posted by Shyke Wolfe:

I fought Zhao Yun using a glaive, as I've done for the whole game. The glaive has the second slowest swing speed in the game and I never felt like his moves gave me no time to attack. You're just doing something wrong.

Glaive is super good. Hammers/Poleaxe, not so much. Faster weapons are better but Glaives are very good.

"Hammer not so much." The rock flinging martial arts skill would like to talk to you. It does more break/spirit damage than a fully charged spirit attack and it can be used at range and it can be done as a rapid fire move. Best part? It's FAST!

[ArcaneMaverick]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Originally posted by ArcaneMaverick:

Glaive is super good. Hammers/Poleaxe, not so much. Faster weapons are better but Glaives are very good.

"Hammer not so much." The rock flinging martial arts skill would like to talk to you. It does more break/spirit damage than a fully charged spirit attack and it can be used at range and it can be done as a rapid fire move. Best part? It's FAST!

So that's one good skill that's totally luck when you get it. I agree that skill is good, but the rest of that weapon, the normals, the other skills? No. The vertical smash is good and I personally like to use sandsink into the counter skill. But I've tried all the others that have dropped for me at length. I even like the fatal blow animation but I think Hammers are the worst weapon type.

[ArcaneMaverick]

Zhang Liao's stab combo that ends with some variation of spin is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. That one spin slash after the stabs is a one hit kill. That's stupid. It's not even a red attack. And he can vary it.

[AH-1 Cobra]

Originally posted by ArcaneMaverick:

Glaive is super good. Hammers/Poleaxe, not so much. Faster weapons are better but Glaives are very good.

Impregnable Keep with axe/hammer is really strong. It's a block => counter move and it's not slow at all and does a huge amount of damage, it might even be the hardest hitting martial arts move, or is certainly up there near the top.

Another thing about axe, is you don't ever use the standing light combo, the first swing is way too slow, but if you do a running light, it comes out a lot faster. So, running light => light => heavy => rock crash, if the enemy can be stunlocked. Even for small windows a running light into another light works fine, or simply go with a single heavy. Or counter with impregnable keep and straight up oneshot a lot of mobs that need a combo of hits into a fatal strike to drop with a lot of other weapons (like dual blades). Also, the weapon switch combo into axe is pretty good.

Nothing says you can't use a weapon like axe or hammer and pair it with a weapon like dual blades to use in a variety of situations. That's one of the reasons why I mained earth stat, because there are axes, hammers, spears, halberds, and even dual blades that have top scaling with earth. If you need to stop attacking really fast in order to deflect a red, then a faster hitting weapon would be ideal in that scenario. Good thing they let you use 2 weapons and swap them on the fly huh?

[Sapphiro]

I personally find duels with human opponents to be the more enjoyable part of this game. Didnt have much issue with Zhao Yun. Since i dont really use weapon switching i have halberd/spear as main weapon for missions and sword just for duels.

[ArcaneMaverick]

Originally posted by Sapphiro:

I personally find duels with human opponents to be the more enjoyable part of this game. Didnt have much issue with Zhao Yun. Since i dont really use weapon switching i have halberd/spear as main weapon for missions and sword just for duels.

I enjoy them too. They all just have one particular annoying feature and that's to throw a red when you're committed. And on NG+, it's basically an instant kill on you.

[ArcaneMaverick]

Originally posted by crimsonedge11:

Originally posted by ArcaneMaverick:

Glaive is super good. Hammers/Poleaxe, not so much. Faster weapons are better but Glaives are very good.

Impregnable Keep with axe/hammer is really strong. It's a block => counter move and it's not slow at all and does a huge amount of damage, it might even be the hardest hitting martial arts move, or is certainly up there near the top.

Another thing about axe, is you don't ever use the standing light combo, the first swing is way too slow, but if you do a running light, it comes out a lot faster. So, running light => light => heavy => rock crash, if the enemy can be stunlocked. Even for small windows a running light into another light works fine, or simply go with a single heavy. Or counter with impregnable keep and straight up oneshot a lot of mobs that need a combo of hits into a fatal strike to drop with a lot of other weapons (like dual blades). Also, the weapon switch combo into axe is pretty good.

Nothing says you can't use a weapon like axe or hammer and pair it with a weapon like dual blades to use in a variety of situations. That's one of the reasons why I mained earth stat, because there are axes, hammers, spears, halberds, and even dual blades that have top scaling with earth. If you need to stop attacking really fast in order to deflect a red, then a faster hitting weapon would be ideal in that scenario. Good thing they let you use 2 weapons and swap them on the fly huh?

I love that move with the axe. I usually combine it with sandsink because the AI almost always immediately attacks after that. Except when they decide to do a red instead which is still unblockable even by that move. And on NG+ that will get you killed.

Yes I'm aware. I've used everything in the game except all the graces/set bonuses.

Sometimes you can just spam jumping light attack with the axe. It's really goofy but also really effective.

But I hope you can also see kinda the problem that the player has to throw out the standing light combo entirely to be effective. The most basic combo in the game for all weapons is not viable for axe. That's bad.