i think the first boss is too hard

[ZEROEIGHTVALK]

i beat the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th boss all on my first try. yet i needed like 3 hours to beat the first boss. i get it that its there to force the player to learn the games mechanics but imo the second phase should just not be there

[Runaan]

After 2 tries I understood what the game wants from me. Its a parry tutorial!
After that it took me some attempts and I enjoyed it.

[Unrighteous]

Originally posted by Boomshanka:

Originally posted by sadness:

I am pretty good. Your message seemed hard to believe that is all.

What seemed hard to believe? i didnt claim anything except the game is not that hard, i say its not hard because it isnt hard. Quite simple mate. That first boss killed me like 10 times in total, the tiger about 6 times. But i was just parrying for a few of the runs just to learn the parry window, after that the game is a breeze.

Not hard for you dude, but different people have different experiences. Keep jerking yourself off though, I'm sure that's very productive.

[sadness]

Originally posted by Boomshanka:

Originally posted by sadness:

I am pretty good. Your message seemed hard to believe that is all.

What seemed hard to believe? i didnt claim anything except the game is not that hard, i say its not hard because it isnt hard. Quite simple mate. That first boss killed me like 10 times in total, the tiger about 6 times. But i was just parrying for a few of the runs just to learn the parry window, after that the game is a breeze.

I agree game is not that hard. But you were refuting me saying first boss is hard. First boss is "hard" since most players have an easier time in the upcoming bosses. I said if you have not played the demo it is hard because you need to master all the deflect/block etc. mechanics. Also I do not agree with deflect window comment, some of them are quite tight.

[Boomshanka]

Originally posted by Unrighteous:

Originally posted by Boomshanka:

What seemed hard to believe? i didnt claim anything except the game is not that hard, i say its not hard because it isnt hard. Quite simple mate. That first boss killed me like 10 times in total, the tiger about 6 times. But i was just parrying for a few of the runs just to learn the parry window, after that the game is a breeze.

Not hard for you dude, but different people have different experiences. Keep jerking yourself off though, I'm sure that's very productive.

ill help you if you like mate, if your struggling? by the way i was supporting your comment and replying to sadness. You do know that right?

[Boomshanka]

Originally posted by sadness:

Originally posted by Boomshanka:

What seemed hard to believe? i didnt claim anything except the game is not that hard, i say its not hard because it isnt hard. Quite simple mate. That first boss killed me like 10 times in total, the tiger about 6 times. But i was just parrying for a few of the runs just to learn the parry window, after that the game is a breeze.

I agree game is not that hard. But you were refuting me saying first boss is hard. First boss is "hard" since most players have an easier time in the upcoming bosses. I said if you have not played the demo it is hard because you need to master all the deflect/block etc. mechanics. Also I do not agree with deflect window comment, some of them are quite tight.

Well thats just your perception of a video game, they are not as fast or hard as you believe, they are predictable AI and your brain and reactions are way faster, you just have to believe, like in the movie.

[sadness]

Originally posted by Boomshanka:

Originally posted by sadness:

I agree game is not that hard. But you were refuting me saying first boss is hard. First boss is "hard" since most players have an easier time in the upcoming bosses. I said if you have not played the demo it is hard because you need to master all the deflect/block etc. mechanics. Also I do not agree with deflect window comment, some of them are quite tight.

Well thats just your perception of a video game, they are not as fast or hard as you believe, they are predictable AI and your brain and reactions are way faster, you just have to believe, like in the movie.

Actually you cannot beat reaction of AI in a video game if the developer does not want you to, they can read your inputs and answer immediately but not really relevant.

[Boomshanka]

Originally posted by sadness:

Originally posted by Boomshanka:

Well thats just your perception of a video game, they are not as fast or hard as you believe, they are predictable AI and your brain and reactions are way faster, you just have to believe, like in the movie.

Actually you cannot beat reaction of AI in a video game if the developer does not want you to, they can read your inputs and answer immediately but not really relevant.

But they would never do that or they would not sell there game. Its a balance and the main goal is to make money. they want us to win so we buy more.

[Kilvoctu]

Originally posted by Unrighteous:

I fought the tiger first and died like 15 times to that. Figured out everything I needed to know

Same, that tiger knocked me around for like an hour or more, but after that I was like, "hm ok I get this game". Zhang Liang took two or three tries. I didn't even use the divine beast (didn't see the text). Next two bosses, same thing, a couple tries.

I can see how people think Zhang Liang is disproportionately harder than the next bosses. I feel like you have to "get it" to beat him, and by the time players get to monkey and pig they "get it" already. In terms of difficulty the three of them are fairly close, in my opinion.

I think Team Ninja coulda benefited from reducing Zhang Liang's damage by half, since people are still learning, and it would have prevented a lot of gripes.

[🆂🆈🅽🅿🅰🆃🅷🆈]

What I will say is this...I don't like him as the first boss.

I liked Gozuki, he was a literally wall for a lot of people and right at the start of the game. But after a hour later of playing past him you'd fight him again and go..."how the ♥♥♥♥ did I struggle with this guy so much he's SO EASY"

His attacks were slow but telegraphed, he only had a few attack patterns and didn't hit like a truck. just hit you a lot. he was a perfect 1st challenge. then you could take that knowledge and fight mezuki, the more techincally deep version of him. It was a good set up.

Everything leading to Zhang liang...is a joke. and then he is a monster. it's the fact that it's SO sudden of a jump. not like gozuki who set the tone right out the gate.