Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty

Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty

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Ricochet 5 Thg03, 2023 @ 1:49pm
Blindboy's identity (Spoiler Alert)
He's Zhuge Liang. No wonder Wo Long is the title. My friend told me Wo Long translates to Sleeping Dragon. There were speculations initially that your hero was Kong Ming but it seems it's the blind boy all along.
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mellotus 7 Thg03, 2023 @ 9:34pm 
Yea I assumed we weren't going to see kongming until the dlc's but funnily enough he was there in the beginning the whole time lol, that got me.
Hero 7 Thg03, 2023 @ 10:06pm 
Yeah, and the ending also hinted the Battle of Chibi. Crazy that we are getting arguably the most famous event on a DLC!
solthusx 7 Thg03, 2023 @ 10:10pm 
Technically the Sleeping Dragon title also refers to the protagonist. While its most often remembered as Zhuge Liang's title, the actual meaning of the term 'Sleeping Dragon' is referring to some who is powerful and yet remains relatively unknown which fits the protagonist, someone who's only a regular militia soldier but is competent enough to accomplish everything they did over the course of the game. Some characters have also noted that the protagonist is surprisingly capable for someone who's just a regular soldier.
Ricochet 8 Thg03, 2023 @ 9:43pm 
Nguyên văn bởi solthusx:
Technically the Sleeping Dragon title also refers to the protagonist. While its most often remembered as Zhuge Liang's title, the actual meaning of the term 'Sleeping Dragon' is referring to some who is powerful and yet remains relatively unknown which fits the protagonist, someone who's only a regular militia soldier but is competent enough to accomplish everything they did over the course of the game. Some characters have also noted that the protagonist is surprisingly capable for someone who's just a regular soldier.

The blindboy had his eyes closed the entire time (sleeping dragon) and when he did open his eyes, his divine beast summon transformed from an eastern dragon (long dragon) to a western one (winged dragon). That entire scene there made me think the whole title is regarding him.

Also, the blindboy was the one who provided him the jade for deflection. Without the blindboy, the protagonist would still be a militia soldier. There's one note in the village before fighting the Blindboy that a militia soldier was revived. It's possible that it's the protagonist and his fate is interlinked with the Blindboy since then.

And they should have a special relationship. Who would go the entire length/decades just to revert him back from Yu Ji's clutches?
Lần sửa cuối bởi Ricochet; 8 Thg03, 2023 @ 9:44pm
I'm a bit confused about the whole revelation he saw when he removed the blindfold. So he foresaw the battle of Red Cliff and even as far as his own death at Wuzhang plains... What's the game trying to tell us? Given that he now knows the future, will he be trying to change it?
Lần sửa cuối bởi Dweller Beyond the Threshold; 8 Thg03, 2023 @ 10:08pm
solthusx 8 Thg03, 2023 @ 10:52pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Ricochet:
Nguyên văn bởi solthusx:
Technically the Sleeping Dragon title also refers to the protagonist. While its most often remembered as Zhuge Liang's title, the actual meaning of the term 'Sleeping Dragon' is referring to some who is powerful and yet remains relatively unknown which fits the protagonist, someone who's only a regular militia soldier but is competent enough to accomplish everything they did over the course of the game. Some characters have also noted that the protagonist is surprisingly capable for someone who's just a regular soldier.

The blindboy had his eyes closed the entire time (sleeping dragon) and when he did open his eyes, his divine beast summon transformed from an eastern dragon (long dragon) to a western one (winged dragon). That entire scene there made me think the whole title is regarding him.

Also, the blindboy was the one who provided him the jade for deflection. Without the blindboy, the protagonist would still be a militia soldier. There's one note in the village before fighting the Blindboy that a militia soldier was revived. It's possible that it's the protagonist and his fate is interlinked with the Blindboy since then.

And they should have a special relationship. Who would go the entire length/decades just to revert him back from Yu Ji's clutches?

A lot of it is open to interpretation of course, but IMO, the blindfolded boy reviving the protag gave them the opportunity to accomplish everything they did when they would otherwise have been just another casualty of war.
let me copy my comment and paste here to explain the "WO LONG" from my point of view


wo means crouch or nap or sleeping,in modern Mandarin, 卧(wo)usually using for animals , like 那条狗卧(wo)在那里,that dog crouch there, sometimes a beast 卧(wo)somewhere maybe having the meaning of lurk, but 卧龙(wolong) is a almost fixed phrase,like the 诸葛亮(zhugeliang)to be called wolong,so wolong maybe means a dragon is take a rest to crouch or not interest to take some move to do something, key word is long(dragon) , that one is strong and powerful, wo can have different implications but essentially it has to crouch there
Ricochet 9 Thg03, 2023 @ 4:22pm 
Nguyên văn bởi 辛耶·诺赞:
let me copy my comment and paste here to explain the "WO LONG" from my point of view


wo means crouch or nap or sleeping,in modern Mandarin, 卧(wo)usually using for animals , like 那条狗卧(wo)在那里,that dog crouch there, sometimes a beast 卧(wo)somewhere maybe having the meaning of lurk, but 卧龙(wolong) is a almost fixed phrase,like the 诸葛亮(zhugeliang)to be called wolong,so wolong maybe means a dragon is take a rest to crouch or not interest to take some move to do something, key word is long(dragon) , that one is strong and powerful, wo can have different implications but essentially it has to crouch there

Thanks. That's why I was referring to his closed eyes = doing nothing during the reveal. My opinion will remain that the title is regarding Zhuge Liang/blindboy.



Nguyên văn bởi UnhappyLawbro:
I'm a bit confused about the whole revelation he saw when he removed the blindfold. So he foresaw the battle of Red Cliff and even as far as his own death at Wuzhang plains... What's the game trying to tell us? Given that he now knows the future, will he be trying to change it?

The game is only revealing his identity during those flashbacks nothing mpre nothing less. His death is still open ended though as it could be prevented but I doubt if the game is following character deaths to a tee.
thorin.hannahs 9 Thg03, 2023 @ 4:44pm 
I was a little hyped and a little put off by it. I generally don't like characters from Shu. I am glad they are drip feeding more Three Kingdoms characters not happy about making Zhuge Liang so important. Make way for Cao Cao and Sima Yi!
solthusx 9 Thg03, 2023 @ 6:40pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Ricochet:
Nguyên văn bởi 辛耶·诺赞:
let me copy my comment and paste here to explain the "WO LONG" from my point of view


wo means crouch or nap or sleeping,in modern Mandarin, 卧(wo)usually using for animals , like 那条狗卧(wo)在那里,that dog crouch there, sometimes a beast 卧(wo)somewhere maybe having the meaning of lurk, but 卧龙(wolong) is a almost fixed phrase,like the 诸葛亮(zhugeliang)to be called wolong,so wolong maybe means a dragon is take a rest to crouch or not interest to take some move to do something, key word is long(dragon) , that one is strong and powerful, wo can have different implications but essentially it has to crouch there

Thanks. That's why I was referring to his closed eyes = doing nothing during the reveal. My opinion will remain that the title is regarding Zhuge Liang/blindboy.



Nguyên văn bởi UnhappyLawbro:
I'm a bit confused about the whole revelation he saw when he removed the blindfold. So he foresaw the battle of Red Cliff and even as far as his own death at Wuzhang plains... What's the game trying to tell us? Given that he now knows the future, will he be trying to change it?

The game is only revealing his identity during those flashbacks nothing mpre nothing less. His death is still open ended though as it could be prevented but I doubt if the game is following character deaths to a tee.

Well, we have seen that Sun Jian still dies at roughly the same point in the plot that he usually does, just under different circumstances. He's the only character we've met so far who reached his fated time of death.
Master 9 Thg03, 2023 @ 7:02pm 
Nguyên văn bởi 辛耶·诺赞:
let me copy my comment and paste here to explain the "WO LONG" from my point of view


wo means crouch or nap or sleeping,in modern Mandarin, 卧(wo)usually using for animals , like 那条狗卧(wo)在那里,that dog crouch there, sometimes a beast 卧(wo)somewhere maybe having the meaning of lurk, but 卧龙(wolong) is a almost fixed phrase,like the 诸葛亮(zhugeliang)to be called wolong,so wolong maybe means a dragon is take a rest to crouch or not interest to take some move to do something, key word is long(dragon) , that one is strong and powerful, wo can have different implications but essentially it has to crouch there

The 卧 in this context with regards to a talented one can be translated as hidden. hidden talent that has yet to display talent or abilities.
Master 9 Thg03, 2023 @ 7:04pm 
Nguyên văn bởi UnhappyLawbro:
I'm a bit confused about the whole revelation he saw when he removed the blindfold. So he foresaw the battle of Red Cliff and even as far as his own death at Wuzhang plains... What's the game trying to tell us? Given that he now knows the future, will he be trying to change it?

I think those are just the game devs teasing abt future dlc. not necessarily that he foresaw it.
im confused, what does his identity matter when he got killed literally before the credits even rolled? does he come back to life later in the game?
solthusx 9 Thg03, 2023 @ 7:49pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Master:
Nguyên văn bởi UnhappyLawbro:
I'm a bit confused about the whole revelation he saw when he removed the blindfold. So he foresaw the battle of Red Cliff and even as far as his own death at Wuzhang plains... What's the game trying to tell us? Given that he now knows the future, will he be trying to change it?

I think those are just the game devs teasing abt future dlc. not necessarily that he foresaw it.

I believe its like how the ending scenes in Nioh 2 hint at the upcoming DLCs
Ricochet 9 Thg03, 2023 @ 8:08pm 
Nguyên văn bởi solthusx:

Well, we have seen that Sun Jian still dies at roughly the same point in the plot that he usually does, just under different circumstances. He's the only character we've met so far who reached his fated time of death.

Lu Bu and Sun Ce also died but I'm not sure if it's on the correct period. Sun Ce's death is crappy though. But Zhuge Liang used his death as a ploy so KOEI could be creative on that front.

Nguyên văn bởi thorin.hannahs:
I was a little hyped and a little put off by it. I generally don't like characters from Shu. I am glad they are drip feeding more Three Kingdoms characters not happy about making Zhuge Liang so important. Make way for Cao Cao and Sima Yi!

Cao Cao has those massive elixir boxes on the final cutscene. He'll be a villain for sure. Sima Yi or Jin could be the final boss with Wu Zhang Plains as the battlefield.

I'm sure they will villainize Liu Bei after Wu takes Jing province during the battle of Yi Ling.

With all the creative freedom they took so far -- Diao Chan as Hong Ning, Yu Ji taking the imperial seal, a Zuo Ci led hidden cultivation village -- Zhuge Liang could have a different role instead of being an advisor of Shu. The three visits will be an interesting scene/event to see if there will be one.

I'm interested to see Wei Yan and Kong Ming's interaction. He's an anti Zhuge Liang dude. Will he be a stereotypical warrior freak like in Dynasty Warriors or will they give him some flair for being an Anti Zhuge Liang?
Lần sửa cuối bởi Ricochet; 9 Thg03, 2023 @ 8:10pm
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