Valstrax weapons worth it?

[ProxyJames]

So I was looking around for builds using the valstrax weapons (particularly the light bowgun) and can't really find any and the weapons themselves seem to have lackluster stats, is there something I'm missing?

[Plumber]

The DBs are fantastic but the other weapon types are not anywhere near the best in their class; they look cool and are very easy to build for, so if you’re fond of gimping yourself to match the power of the lobby you’re in, they’re good for that

[Corrupt-nz]

Yes

[StarExile]

Yes

[ZRated]

Big yes

[ProxyJames]

I'm really not seeing it for the light bowgun, it has low attack power, and only has rapid fire for dragon ammo and piercing dragon with extremely limited ammo meaning you would have to craft the ammo every 3 shots so it's not very worth it

[JPM岩]

It has a good Switch Axe, but in some cases, Ibushi can out damage it.

[CookedMeat]

It's just the Worldborne's defender/raging brachidios/fatalis equivalent for Rise.

They are decent enough to deal an above average damage but most of them might not be the best weapon of its type. But since they are rather easy to craft (short upgrade tree), it makes them a good introductory weapons to try out a new weapon type.

[ProxyJames]

Originally posted by CookedMeat:

It's just the Worldborne's defender/raging brachidios/fatalis equivalent for Rise.

They are decent enough to deal an above average damage but most of them might not be the best weapon of its type. But since they are rather easy to craft (short upgrade tree), it makes them a good introductory weapons to try out a new weapon type.

There not very good at that either, you need to be like HR100 so by the time you actually get to face it typically you have a better damage set up. The light bowgun has like 170 base attack power so more than likely everyone will stick with the night owl, despots wildfire or sinister shadow bolt witch are all amazing weapon with high attack power and amazing stats. The night own gets like 100% crit on weak spots, the wildfire makes the best use of slashing ammo and can cut tails like no ones business and the bolt is amazing with sticky and spread ammo.
The valstrax weapon: 170, poor affinity, and only rapid dragon and dragon pierce. Yeah when paired with the set and you get dragon blight you do 20% more damage but your doing like 150% more with the other weapons and set combos

[JPM岩]

Originally posted by ProxyJames:

Originally posted by CookedMeat:

It's just the Worldborne's defender/raging brachidios/fatalis equivalent for Rise.

They are decent enough to deal an above average damage but most of them might not be the best weapon of its type. But since they are rather easy to craft (short upgrade tree), it makes them a good introductory weapons to try out a new weapon type.

There not very good at that either, you need to be like HR100 so by the time you actually get to face it typically you have a better damage set up. The light bowgun has like 170 base attack power so more than likely everyone will stick with the night owl, despots wildfire or sinister shadow bolt witch are all amazing weapon with high attack power and amazing stats. The night own gets like 100% crit on weak spots, the wildfire makes the best use of slashing ammo and can cut tails like no ones business and the bolt is amazing with sticky and spread ammo.
The valstrax weapon: 170, poor affinity, and only rapid dragon and dragon pierce. Yeah when paired with the set and you get dragon blight you do 20% more damage but your doing like 150% more with the other weapons and set combos

IDK about the other stuff, but the biggest draw with Valstrax is the high element combined with it's Ramp Ups. Wyvern Exploit gives a 5% damage increase, which may not sound like a lot at first, if your set already deals a lot of damage, this weapon will deal a good increase, especially vs dragon weak wyverns (flying, bird, fanged, and leaviathan). Valstrax Soul gives you a large dragon element boost when below a certain HP threshold, which, vs dragon weak monsters, does another good damage increase.
It should be noted that while they are not "best in show" (most weapons do not even have a best in show), they are usually the meta pick vs dragon weak monsters.

[Plumber]

typically weapons care more about raw than elem so even vs dragon weak monsters you want to take narga or somesuch instead
SA, DB seem fine to me, bow can force it to work but ultimately wants ibushi instead, otherwise it's all novelty

[JPM岩]

Originally posted by Plumber:

typically weapons care more about raw than elem so even vs dragon weak monsters you want to take narga or somesuch instead
SA, DB seem fine to me, bow can force it to work but ultimately wants ibushi instead, otherwise it's all novelty

Not true. Valstrax is out DPS Ibushi with you upkeep constant damage with SA. If it's a fight you cannot constantly keep damaging the monster, Ibushi is better.

[Plumber]

yes, i agree on SA and included it on my last post, though i did neglect it in my first

[CookedMeat]

Originally posted by ProxyJames:

Yeah I should've excluded LBG and HBG in my statement. These two weapons requires highly specific combinations of ammo capcacity, reload speed, recoil and stats in order to be worth using...

[MrLuckless]

Valstrax weapons are solid if you want a dragon element build with lots of white sharpness, but as others have said they're not the best in slot kind of thing for much else. Bugstick is still plagued by the fact that Narga's weapon is still far and away better then most other options, but that seems to hold true for a lot of weapons that have Narga variant. They made the ninja bird too good.

[CookedMeat]

No... more like they made most end game monster's weapons bad...