Game is dying because the Multiplayer is bad.

[Bgar]

The reason this game has been dropping in players so fast is because the multiplayer / community system in-game is seriously lacking when compared to World. They took one step forward but two step backwards when implementing multi in this iteration.

4 player lobbies are fine for the Kidtendo Switch, but on PC that is a joke when compared to Worldborne. There is literally zero chit chat or community building options in lobbies. Also, no S.O.S. browser and other annoyances really hurt the multiplayer experience.

I have barely seen people chat or interact in this game, heck they dont even bother to use custom shoutouts like many others did in World. No sense of community gives no incentive to play multi. No S.O.S. browser gives no incentive to go help randoms.

So yeah in my opinion the horrible multiplayer downgrade is what hurt this game, and not cheating as some babies and neckbeards imply in this forum, because World was plagued with cheaters as well and look at how long that community has thrived. No community building incentive = dead game.

[!Cara]

Originally posted by Dasginosis:

The thing is... MHR is the sixth mainline installment in the Monster Hunter.
So... it's a downgrade even if it made by a different team.
Pls. don't mind me if this fact and opinion of mine trigger you.

It's still 5th generation tho

[!Cara]

Originally posted by Lunaris:

Originally posted by CookedMeat:

I highly doubt this. Ever since the release of multiplayer Hub/Online quests are always scaled for 4 players and never for singleplayer. Even the supply crates are for 4 people.

World just introduced the game to much better multiplayer matchmaking system and exploited its benefits entirely.

He's not wrong, ever since Monster Hunter Freedom came out for the PSP they tweaked the game to be doable as a solo player in that iteration of 1st generation. iirc people were complaining they couldn't play the game solo in Monster Hunter / Monster Hunter G (Which MFU is an updated version of G, fun fact) cuz of no one to play with.

But since then every Monster Hunter gives you the means solo them. Of course you're not wrong either, multiplayer quests scale the monsters health and whatnot. So the game being a, "challenging single player game with the option of multiplayer" isn't necessarily wrong.

He is wrong tho since it is balanced around multiplayer, doesn't matter if you can do it solo

[Dasginosis]

Originally posted by Otto Octavius:

Originally posted by Dasginosis:

The thing is... MHR is the sixth mainline installment in the Monster Hunter.
So... it's a downgrade even if it made by a different team.
Pls. don't mind me if this fact and opinion of mine trigger you.

It's still 5th generation tho

Yes? I didn't say that it's 6th gen. I said "It's 6th game in mainline. Not Spin-off"

[CookedMeat]

Originally posted by Dasginosis:

I said "It's 6th game in mainline. Not Spin-off"

gen 1
Monster Hunter, 2004, PS2
Monster Hunter Freedom, 2006, PSP
gen 2
Monster Hunter Freedom 2, 2007, PSP
Monster Hunter Freedom Unite, 2009, PSP/IOS
gen 3
Monster Hunter Tri, 2010, Wii
Monster Hunter Ultimate, 2013, 3DS/Wii U
gen 4
Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate, 2015, 3DS
Monster Hunter Generation, 2016, 3DS
Monster Hunter Generation Ultimate, 2018, Switch
gen 5
Monster Hunter World/Iceborne, 2018, PC/PS4/Xbox
Monster Hunter Rise/Sunbreak, 2020, PC/Switch

If you only count console releases as mainline, then Rise isn't even mainline, it's just a ported spin-off. If you count portable releases as mainline, then...

[!Cara]

Originally posted by Dasginosis:

Originally posted by Otto Octavius:

It's still 5th generation tho

Yes? I didn't say that it's 6th gen. I said "It's 6th game in mainline. Not Spin-off"

6th mainline game would mean it's 6th gen tho, every actual mainline release progresses the generation
Just because the Devs said that rise isn't a spin-off doesn't make it a mainline game

[Ricky]

Can confirm, i keep starting this game only to close it when i sit finding session for 5 to 10 mins. Hoping someone can make a mod to see what missions are active, but that may be a stretch.

and who gives a ♥♥♥♥ if its "Mainline" or not, it's called monster hunter and this multiplayer in this version is the worse. Coping for an arguments sake is all it is.

Even the PSP ones was better using xlinkkai or a ps3 to connect it online, you could see lobbies.

[!Cara]

Originally posted by Ricky:

Can confirm, i keep starting this game only to close it when i sit finding session for 5 to 10 mins. Hoping someone can make a mod to see what missions are active, but that may be a stretch.

and who gives a ♥♥♥♥ if its "Mainline" or not, it's monster hunter and this multiplayer in this version is the worse. Even the PSP ones was better using xlinkkai you could see lobbies on a PSP imagine that.

Xlink kai is not an officially supported method of playing online so no, xlink kai existing doesn't make the psp games have better online functionality

[Ricky]

You could link your PSP online using the ps3 too.

the PSP version also supported 16 player lobbies.

Also you could see the quest boards in those big lobbies.

Which made it a better experience than what we have with rise on a PC that is "officially supported" to not suck?

point being is that this game is designed worse than a PSP version from 2008 that was not intended to be played over the internet.

[!Cara]

Originally posted by Ricky:

You could link your PSP online using the ps3 too.

the PSP version also supported 16 player lobbies.

Also you could see the quest boards in those big lobbies.

Which made it a better experience than what we have with rise on a PC that is "officially supported" to not suck?

Don't know which game you're talking about but freedom/freedom unite didn't have any online play outside of Japan and did only support 4 players

Okay your release date points to freedom unite, again, that game didn't have any online play outside of Japan and even there it was 4 people and you don't have a way to join any quests without being in a lobby, so rise is better in terms of letting you join quests of players that you're not in the lobby of

[Ricky]

Then you don't know what i'm talking about.

Freedom unite and Monster Hunter Portable 3rd. Had the ability to connect your PSP to a PS3 and play online. It was called Remote play and it was popular at the time and easier than Rise is to find people to play with.

[Ricky]

Originally posted by ANTI-ANIME:

The fact that I don’t Insta dc after alt + tabbing already makes multiplayer better here

disconnecting was when you played the game in true full screen rather than windowed boarderless. MH has always been sensitive about connections, so when you tab out and your game freezes for a second it'll dc you.

[!Cara]

Originally posted by Ricky:

Then you don't know what i'm talking about.

Freedom unite and Monster Hunter Portable 3rd. Had the ability to connect your PSP to a PS3 and play online.

Portable 3rd also never released in the west btw
And what you're talking about most likely is ad hoc Party which is a Sony feature, has nothing to do with Capcom/monster Hunter
(At least that's the only thing I could find regarding this and when portable 3rd released Capcom stated that this SONY feature will be used for online play)
so it's the same as using the xlink kai argument, that's like saying MH world had better voicechat in the pc version because you can use discord on the pc


Did some more digging, when I stated that mhfu only had multiplayer in Japan it came from a source when ad hoc party wasn't released outside of Japan

[Dasginosis]

Originally posted by CookedMeat:

Originally posted by Dasginosis:

I said "It's 6th game in mainline. Not Spin-off"

gen 1
Monster Hunter, 2004, PS2
Monster Hunter Freedom, 2006, PSP
gen 2
Monster Hunter Freedom 2, 2007, PSP
Monster Hunter Freedom Unite, 2009, PSP/IOS
gen 3
Monster Hunter Tri, 2010, Wii
Monster Hunter Ultimate, 2013, 3DS/Wii U
gen 4
Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate, 2015, 3DS
Monster Hunter Generation, 2016, 3DS
Monster Hunter Generation Ultimate, 2018, Switch
gen 5
Monster Hunter World/Iceborne, 2018, PC/PS4/Xbox
Monster Hunter Rise/Sunbreak, 2020, PC/Switch

If you only count console releases as mainline, then Rise isn't even mainline, it's just a ported spin-off. If you count portable releases as mainline, then...

And Dev. said this isn't spin-off. so... you do you

[!Cara]

Originally posted by Dasginosis:

Originally posted by CookedMeat:

gen 1
Monster Hunter, 2004, PS2
Monster Hunter Freedom, 2006, PSP
gen 2
Monster Hunter Freedom 2, 2007, PSP
Monster Hunter Freedom Unite, 2009, PSP/IOS
gen 3
Monster Hunter Tri, 2010, Wii
Monster Hunter Ultimate, 2013, 3DS/Wii U
gen 4
Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate, 2015, 3DS
Monster Hunter Generation, 2016, 3DS
Monster Hunter Generation Ultimate, 2018, Switch
gen 5
Monster Hunter World/Iceborne, 2018, PC/PS4/Xbox
Monster Hunter Rise/Sunbreak, 2020, PC/Switch

If you only count console releases as mainline, then Rise isn't even mainline, it's just a ported spin-off. If you count portable releases as mainline, then...

And Dev. said this is a mainline game. so... you do you

The direct quote was that it's not a spin-off and it was in context to also talking about stories 2 which is a spin off so in that context generations ultimate would also be considered mainline game but most don't see it as mainline but rather as spin off

[Roy]

16 person lobbies are trash.