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It's a random, unknown, el-cheapo 'drm' from a site hidden behind a proxy, with a maker's signature involving a Russian-sounding name (yes, I'm aware slavs consist of more than just Russians. Point remains), and a website that lists Russian as it's first language on it's menu. When there was some interaction with an individual related to the software, what was received was a HIGHLY unprofessional and inflammatory response.
I don't need any more proof than that to assume that A. It's probably Russian in origin, and B. It is indeed more than a bit shady.
Put bluntly, Enigma is a total unknown, nonfunctional in it's stated purpose, that so far it seems Capcom is the only game publisher braindead enough to use.
We don't need 'devil's advocate' or 'benefit of the doubt' BS when there is such a core breach of standards having been done by Capcom. It is BEYOND abnormal to remove a DRM from a game, years after it's launch, at a point that is functionally AFTER post-launch support has ended, just to replace it with multiple layers of other DRM that don't even do their stated job. Let alone to not even openly acknowledge that this is what they are doing. It's bad behavior and should not be just accepted, lest it become the standard.
Exactly this.
It's really infuriating that care about single player and co-op games though.
Don't listen to the parrots spreading misinformation.
Enigma does not send any data anywhere, it works entirely differently from Denuvo, the game doesn't need to be online anymore to be played.
Enjoy the game and make your own opinions, between Denuvo and Enigma, I take Enigma any day.
But don't take my word for it, use Whireshark yourself and check the traffic, https://www.wireshark.org/download/win64/
If you wanna know how basic Enigma is, just head over here, https://www.enigmaprotector.com/
If you a software developer you'll easily figure out Enigma does not need any internet connection to work, and is a quite basic obfuscator tool with anti-tamper, all this people don't know what they talking about.
I'm not trying to defend CAPCOM, but I like facts, not misinformation spread by 12y old kids.
So let's get in depth, shall we?
Enigma protector ABSOLUTELY does phone home. They literally acknowledge it on the front page of their site. And I quote "
Licensing System
The licensing system allows prompt integration of registration key verification functions, binding license to a specific computer, limiting the term of license. Rich functionality of the licensing system allows you to create your own key generators and to use the built-in or easily customizable CGI key generators."
In order to verify those keys, it HAS to phone to an outside server. It may only be on first launch of a protected app (or at least, only once every X amount of time). More interestingly, in their about page, it talks about even more phoning it can do, and also makes blatantly FALSE claims about being 'attack-proof' and other such nonsense, including claiming that a VMsandbox is 'the unique technology' :
https://enigmaprotector.com/en/about.html
Do a little research, and you will find that 'enigma protector' has supposedly existed since at least 2007 (their site claims copyright 2004, but the first reference to it I can find outside of their own site is 2007, and their own site's versioning info and news updates start listings in 2007). Meanwhile, the dev for it, one 'Vladimir Sukhov', has, on numerous anti-virus forums (when trying to convince them his software isn't malicious) made the claim since 2007 that his software is in use by 'many customers' and in some cases, MAGICALLY had supposed customers of his show up in said threads less than an hour after his initial post to claim the software is legit and the virus detections are false positives.
As an example of this, here:
https://forums.mcafee.com/t5/General-Discussions/Enigma-Protector-false-positives-and-SPAM-alerts/td-p/162574 Do note that the topic is also marked with a label in Russian text, by Vladimir.
For an example of claims about many customers:
https://community.bitdefender.com/en/discussion/2093/the-enigma-protector-false-positives
Meanwhile, the barrenness of their forums on their site and the lack of public knowledge available about Enigma protector, makes it EXTREMELY unlikely it was a popular software with legitimate customers at any point, throwing the claims about 'many customers' into dispute, especially with their own site not bothering to crow about even ballpark numbers for users/sales. Successful business software are not complete mysteries. They are well-documented with an understood existence, even when talking about anti-tamper tech. Successful software of this type certainly don't run an exceedingly outdated and barebones page like Enigma protector does. While I haven't seen proof (and obtaining it myself would involve breaking laws, which I'm obviously not going to do for an internet argument) I have seen it said in quite a few places that Enigma Protector's website and servers not only don't have even basic protections on them, but also don't even have the routine cloud support and obfuscation that 90% of the internet does these days. A lot of indicators are present that their software is not so legitimate as a 'popular' or 'normal' option.
Meanwhile, from back in 2020 (and this was quite likely going on well before discovery), white hats have found Enigma protector being used as a aiding delivery method for malware:
https://securityintelligence.com/posts/enigmaspark-politically-themed-cyber-activity-highlights-regional-opposition-to-middle-east-peace-plan/
Here's the specific quote: "n recent analysis of malicious activity likely targeting entities based in the Middle East, IBM X-Force Incident Response and Intelligence Services (IRIS) discovered backdoor malware packed with the legitimate Enigma Protector software. We named this malware “EnigmaSpark” per the Enigma Protector and the string “Spark4.2” from a .pdb file path, and published our findings to the X-Force IRIS Enterprise Intelligence Management platform on TruSTAR in early February 2020."
Another example of Enigma protector being associated with malware delivery:
https://www.bitdefender.com/blog/hotforsecurity/malware-tries-out-open-sesame-tactics/
The website for Enigma protector leads back to a Moscow based web front, as far as I can tell without doing no-no things in pursuit of info.
You've got the same handful of five or six people who magically show up to do this 'It's misinfo!' chest thumping in any thread where Enigma is mentioned, where rather than actually prove anything or provide anything approaching a valid or logical argument, they instead start chanting 'misinfo' and flinging insults at the other side of things, including trying to 'discredit' them by claiming they 'don't know what they are talking about'.
Again, we have all we need to know Enigma Protector is shady as hell, and not even competent at what it CLAIMS to do.
Q: Enigma protector ABSOLUTELY does phone home. They literally acknowledge it on the front page of their site.
A: No Enigma does not phone home at all, what you reading is part of a key verification process (that is not even used by CAPCOM), but it also does not connect to Enigma servers at all.
Steam is used for license verification and we not supplied any Keys by CAPCOM for further verification, and it's the developers who generate, supply and validate the keys (not Enigma).
Q: Do a little research, and you will find that 'enigma protector' has supposedly existed since at least 2007.
A: Has nothing to do with anything I said, and has no relevance for the discussion, they could exist since 1999 for all we care.
It also doesn't matter when you believe how long they been around, cause the copyright is the right date by law, which is 2004.
Q: Enigma is virus, and they paid people to try and get it white-listed by anti-virus vendors.
A: I assume you didn't even bother to read any of your sources, as stated by the Anti-Virus vendors:
Packer detection aren't real viruses but are general detection for inaccessible (protected) or packed files...
Which is exactly what Enigma does, and yes it has been used by malware actors to protect their files, but that does not make Enigma itself malicious (is same as blaming a gun for murder, instead of the actual murderer).
Not to mention others opinions have little bearing on how Software gets white-listed by Anti-Virus vendors, they were supplied the files, analysed them and white-listed the hash after verifying is not malware.
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So thanks but no thanks for your misguided input, further replies from you will be ignored, to spare my sanity and time.
You also free to hate me and insult me for trying to clear misinformation, if it makes you sleep better at night.
Engima protector, as a software, has the capacity to phone home. I never said it did it to Enigma servers, or that Capcom used that feature. That you think we, as the people a validation key was generated for as part of an anti-tamper, would even SEE that key, tells us all we need to know about your lack of knowledge. Guess what? Denuvo generates a key. WTF do you think their validation tokens are? Enigma has the structures for the same thing, and their own site acknowledges it. You aren't being slick by trying to snip out the relevant info to pretend the site doesn't state it outright, nor by trying to move goalposts.
All you've really done here is further demonstrate either your own bad faith, or your lack of knowledge on the subject. If Enigma HAS the structures for it, then they can be hijacked, and Enigma has already proven a lack of competency in the core functions of the product, so their trustworthiness on that aspect not being accessible by bad actors is beyond suspect.
No, that isn't necessarily the 'proper date'. It's when their website, which has outright falsehoods listed throughout, claims their copyright date is. All other data on their own site shows the earliest date the site existed was 07, which would beg the question of how it existed as a product prior. At best, 2004 can be assumed to be when the developer of it had the idea.
You don't need to formally file a copyright (at least, not prior to a lawsuit, at which point you only need proof of ownership prior to the other party's establishment of ownership) with the office to claim copyright, unlike a trademark or patent. Which means all we really have to go on, is Enigma's own claim on their site, one that the available data DOES NOT BACK. Or do you have any form of sourcing that contradicts me? No? Par for the course with your sort.
I never said 'Enigma is virus' If you bothered to read, or to make any attempt at a valid argument, you wouldn't need to LIE about what I said. I said that it was REPEATEDLY found as part of the delivery system for malware. This is you actively misrepresenting both what I said, and the core premise of the argument. Way to prove my point about the people who keep showing up to spout that 'misinfo' crap.
You also fail to understand how AV providers handle whitelisting, as you assume that just because a file was sent and examined, it can't be used maliciously. That is patently incorrect. It just means that when they checked THAT SAMPLE, it didn't do anything. inactive functions or alternative uses of existing functions can slip things past initial checks. Hell, the developer for it, in those conversations, actively talks about just writing off all detections of the full version as false positives and about 'internal signatures to verify', which itself would do nothing to indicate presence or lack thereof of a virus in the packed files.
Furthermore, you actively misrepresented the statement from the source, as well as not mentioning WHO the source was. It was a volunteer moderator on a support forum for Bitdefender. Who demonstrates inability in the subject the moment he makes the statement of 'packer detection aren't real viruses', as well as that he didn't even understand what Enigma was asking. Packer detection absolutely CAN indicate a virus, they just aren't definitive on their own, as it's a heuristic method. I'll also point out that in NEITHER of the sources linked did the AV company reps indicate that the files HAD passed inspection, that's just you inserting misinformation that matches your narrative, instead of sticking to facts.
I only even linked the bitdefender exchange as reference to Enigma claiming 'lot of customers' very shortly after their first documented sign of existence.
It repeatedly showing up as a delivery method for malware means one of two things: 1. That the supposed 'anti-tamper' program, itself, gets pirated on a regular basis, or that 2. A good chunk of it's paying users are malware makers. At the moment, the only known users of Enigma Protect I could find, are Capcom, and the numerous instances where it specifically was used as part of the delivery method for malware. NEITHER is a good look for the safety of the program.
I also did not claim 'paid people to get it white-listed'. That's you again outright LYING about what was said, after conveniently refusing to directly quote the section in question. I said that he had occasions where he showed up on the forum for an AV company complaining about an AV detecting his software, then conveniently had a supposed customer posting in the same thread within an hour. Yeah, that's suspicious as hell. I wasn't accusing him of paying people off, I was accusing him of socking, if anything.
'misguided input'? I seem to be the only one that actually did any ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ research on the matter, instead of just declaring misinformation on things I know nothing about.
I've also not insulted you, at least not in the post you quoted. I suppose you could try to argue pointing out your lack of valid arguments and bad faith behavior are 'insults' but they came after equivalent comments from you, where you effectively accused people of being unable to think for themselves and insulted them by declaring everything said that you disagree with as being 'misinformation' and coming from '12 year old kids'.
You haven't 'cleared up misinformation'. All you've done is try to suppress discussion and use dishonesty and outright lies to try to shutdown those who bothered with any level of actual research. You've still yet to provide ANY sort of sourcing that counters or contradicts the statements of those that dislike Enigma.
and lets not forget that capcom has pulled ♥♥♥♥♥ practices before like including on disc DLC's on console releases only selling the key to unlock them in digital stores. after fan backlash again they knocked off the practice.
what you do matters dont think it doesnt.
Let them see with actions.