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Gisborne Aug 6, 2022 @ 7:46am
Bows don't cut off body parts?
I spend an entire 4 player hunt shooting the tail with and weakpoint of the big red t rex thing and it died and i still never severed it's tail? i was using dragon piercer a lot. in world im sure i used to cut off pasrts with dragon piercer a lot?
Last edited by Gisborne; Aug 6, 2022 @ 7:47am
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Copy & Cat Aug 6, 2022 @ 7:54am 
Melee and new butchers bind wirebug skill is what causes cut damage with bow, regular shots and dragon piercer dont
Last edited by Copy & Cat; Aug 6, 2022 @ 7:54am
Gisborne Aug 6, 2022 @ 7:58am 
Originally posted by God Guns Glintstones:
Melee and new butchers bind wirebug skill is what causes cut damage with bow, regular shots and dragon piercer dont
well giggity. I don't have that skill.
アンジェル Aug 6, 2022 @ 8:04am 
Originally posted by Gisborne:
Originally posted by God Guns Glintstones:
Melee and new butchers bind wirebug skill is what causes cut damage with bow, regular shots and dragon piercer dont
well giggity. I don't have that skill.

If you do enough damage to e.g. a tail, a simple kunai throw will do the trick of cutting if you do not go into melee range.
Gisborne Aug 6, 2022 @ 8:08am 
Originally posted by アンジェル:
Originally posted by Gisborne:
well giggity. I don't have that skill.

If you do enough damage to e.g. a tail, a simple kunai throw will do the trick of cutting if you do not go into melee range.
Any tips for aiming bow with controller, seems very hard especially with fast moving monsters
アンジェル Aug 6, 2022 @ 8:11am 
Originally posted by Gisborne:
Originally posted by アンジェル:

If you do enough damage to e.g. a tail, a simple kunai throw will do the trick of cutting if you do not go into melee range.
Any tips for aiming bow with controller, seems very hard especially with fast moving monsters

With a controller? Huh... I play with a controller and consider it rather easy.

Any issues I would suspect in your settings. That is sensitivity of your joystick and the general camera settings. Maybe adjusting the camera settings already might be helpful for you? I made a section about that here
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2717340432
Though, it should be the same like with Monster Hunter: World if you played it before?
Gisborne Aug 6, 2022 @ 8:14am 
Originally posted by アンジェル:
Originally posted by Gisborne:
Any tips for aiming bow with controller, seems very hard especially with fast moving monsters

With a controller? Huh... I play with a controller and consider it rather easy.

Any issues I would suspect in your settings. That is sensitivity of your joystick and the general camera settings. Maybe adjusting the camera settings already might be helpful for you? I made a section about that here
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2717340432
Though, it should be the same like with Monster Hunter: World if you played it before?

Never been a fan of how on controller to press any of the major main buttons ABXY you haver to completly take your finger off aiming so its aim or use an ability so pressing A to dodge my aim goes off the target then i have to try and re aim before the charge wears off.
アンジェル Aug 6, 2022 @ 8:18am 
Originally posted by Gisborne:
Originally posted by アンジェル:

With a controller? Huh... I play with a controller and consider it rather easy.

Any issues I would suspect in your settings. That is sensitivity of your joystick and the general camera settings. Maybe adjusting the camera settings already might be helpful for you? I made a section about that here
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2717340432
Though, it should be the same like with Monster Hunter: World if you played it before?

Never been a fan of how on controller to press any of the major main buttons ABXY you haver to completly take your finger off aiming so its aim or use an ability so pressing A to dodge my aim goes off the target then i have to try and re aim before the charge wears off.

I do not know your button setup. But it sounds like adjusting that might be beneficial for you. Therefore my recommendation to check on the ingame settings and Steam controller support settings. Your experience might differ already by the controller you are using, as I am using a Nintendo Switch pro controller for which the default controls are natively designed for.

Again: check on sensitivity, sets and eventually on changing the button layout if you have issues. All I can say is, the default layout makes it very intuitive to aim and shoot with the bow. It just needs a little training like with any shooter playing with a controller, and joystick sensitivity is usually the number one setting to adjust.
CookedMeat Aug 6, 2022 @ 8:37am 
Originally posted by アンジェル:
If you do enough damage to e.g. a tail, a simple kunai throw will do the trick of cutting if you do not go into melee range.
That's not how part break works, don't spread misinformation.
You need to accumulate severe damage to cut a tail, and kunai does not deal severe damage.

Originally posted by God Guns Glintstones:
Melee and new butchers bind wirebug skill is what causes cut damage with bow, regular shots and dragon piercer dont
Regular shot don't deal severe damage, but dragon piercer does, and it can indeed cut off tails.

As to answer OP's question, you need to deal enough 'Severe Damage' to tails if you want to cut them. For bow the only way is either with the new silkbind attacks or with dragon piercer. However, both of them aren't particularly good since the silkbind attack does little damage while dragon piercer is hard to aim/land, especially on monster with small hitbox like Anjanath (the red T-rex you were fighting).
Currently in Rise/Sunbreak, many monster still gives you tail just by completing its quest, although the rate is often 5 times lower than cutting and carve the tail. If you are desperate for that tail you might want to make a melee build, or slicing ammo LBG/HBG.

Edit: I can't believe I've forgot about the melee attacks of bow, they can cut off tails too.
Last edited by CookedMeat; Aug 6, 2022 @ 9:05am
Popcorn Aug 6, 2022 @ 8:49am 
Originally posted by CookedMeat:
Originally posted by アンジェル:
If you do enough damage to e.g. a tail, a simple kunai throw will do the trick of cutting if you do not go into melee range.
That's not how part break works, don't spread misinformation.
You need to accumulate severe damage to cut a tail, and kunai does not deal severe damage.

Originally posted by God Guns Glintstones:
Melee and new butchers bind wirebug skill is what causes cut damage with bow, regular shots and dragon piercer dont
Regular shot don't deal severe damage, but dragon piercer does, and it can indeed cut off tails.

As to answer OP's question, you need to deal enough 'Severe Damage' to tails if you want to cut them. For bow the only way is either with the new silkbind attacks or with dragon piercer. However, both of them aren't particularly good since the silkbind attack does little damage while dragon piercer is hard to aim/land, especially on monster with small hitbox like Anjanath (the red T-rex you were fighting).
Currently in Rise/Sunbreak, many monster still gives you tail just by completing its quest, although the rate is often 5 times lower than cutting and carve the tail. If you are desperate for that tail you might want to make a melee build, or slicing ammo LBG/HBG.
I mean, its not all misinformation, its more of "omitting/forgetting to add certain information".

From what it seems, kunais should be the equivalent of boomerangs from old games
Fat Pigeon Aug 6, 2022 @ 8:51am 
Dodgebolt can cut tails, you also can easily spam it
Last edited by Fat Pigeon; Aug 6, 2022 @ 8:57am
CookedMeat Aug 6, 2022 @ 8:52am 
Originally posted by Popcorn:
I mean, its not all misinformation, its more of "omitting/forgetting to add certain information".

From what it seems, kunais should be the equivalent of boomerangs from old games
I think boomerangs actually dealt severe damage. Not sure why kunai doesn't since kunais are basically tiny daggers.
Popcorn Aug 6, 2022 @ 8:54am 
Originally posted by CookedMeat:
Originally posted by Popcorn:
I mean, its not all misinformation, its more of "omitting/forgetting to add certain information".

From what it seems, kunais should be the equivalent of boomerangs from old games
I think boomerangs actually dealt severe damage. Not sure why kunai doesn't since kunais are basically tiny daggers.
Boomerangs did deal severe, I dont have a DPS overlay, so I dont know about kunai.
Like I "seems".
If you got it, please confirm so
Dondu Aug 6, 2022 @ 8:56am 
from what i remember there are certain arrow type that you can use to break parts, dont consume those arrows from the sake dealing damage... they are special arrow for special purpose... breaking parts
Last edited by Dondu; Aug 6, 2022 @ 8:57am
CookedMeat Aug 6, 2022 @ 9:05am 
Originally posted by Popcorn:
Boomerangs did deal severe, I dont have a DPS overlay, so I dont know about kunai.
Like I "seems".
If you got it, please confirm so
I already did a testing before my first comment. I used slicing ammo to deal enough severe damage but stopped before reaching tail cut threshold, then just spammed kunai for a whole minutes. Nothing happened, but the next slicing ammo cut the tail flawlessly.
Thermal Lance Aug 6, 2022 @ 9:40am 
Depends if you’re using a steel wire with it, how strong it is and be distracted enough to leave a limb in the way.
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