Qurio crafting wins.

[NiamhNyx]

What is your best roll with qurio crafting so far?
Mine is my Golden Lunemail.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2850750450

[Senrezu]

Got something similar on GRath gloves: Slots changed to 4-4-2 at the expense of -21 armor / no skills removed. I love this new crafting technique. Of course you can't just win every time you roll but the essences are thrown at you anyways.

[Hormesis]

wtf? that shouldn't be possible. from that table i was looking at earlier the addition of 3 slots is a .5% chance and that's the best. not to mention since that's rarity 10 you shouldn't even be able to add the 3 slots since it would cost too much, even considering the -points from the loss of counter attack

[Fat Pigeon]

i also earned some interessting results so i were able to squish some more damage into my bow builds

[NiamhNyx]

Originally posted by iTriHard:

wtf? that shouldn't be possible. from that table i was looking at earlier the addition of 3 slots is a .5% chance and that's the best. not to mention since that's rarity 10 you shouldn't even be able to add the 3 slots since it would cost too much, even considering the -points from the loss of counter attack

It is possible.
There is a max of seven augments per piece of armor. I do not know the order, but these are what I would expect the augments to be after looking at the data from dtlnor.
Base Cost: 10
Augment 1: Skill - (+10 to total cost)
Augment 2: Skill - (+10 to total cost)
Augment 3: -3 Thunder Res (+3 to total cost)
New Cost: 33
Augment 4: Skill Rank B - 9 points
Augment 5: Slot + 2 or 3 or 1 } Combined cost of 4 slots is 24
Augment 6: Slot + 2 or 1 or 3 }
Augment 7: N/A (According to dtlnor, a 7th augment must be defense and requires certain conditions.)
24 + 9 = 33

Also that was after 342 augment attempts using 684 prime amber essence.

[mxd_]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2850769885

[Wicked]

Originally posted by iTriHard:

wtf? that shouldn't be possible. from that table i was looking at earlier the addition of 3 slots is a .5% chance and that's the best. not to mention since that's rarity 10 you shouldn't even be able to add the 3 slots since it would cost too much, even considering the -points from the loss of counter attack

Budget 10.

Each lost skill adds +10 to it, he lost 2 counterstrikes, so new budget is 30.

He also lost 3 thunder that adds another 3 to the budget. New budget is 33.

A slot 3 costs 18 points. Default slots are 4-3-0 on the chest. With a 3 slot it becomes 4-4-1

He still has 15 budget left, and he rolls Foray which costs 9. So he lost 6 budget and still has 2 augment slots left.

[NiamhNyx]

Originally posted by Wicked:

Originally posted by iTriHard:

wtf? that shouldn't be possible. from that table i was looking at earlier the addition of 3 slots is a .5% chance and that's the best. not to mention since that's rarity 10 you shouldn't even be able to add the 3 slots since it would cost too much, even considering the -points from the loss of counter attack

Budget 10.

Each lost skill adds +10 to it, he lost 2 counterstrikes, so new budget is 30.

He also lost 3 thunder that adds another 3 to the budget. New budget is 33.

A slot 3 costs 18 points. Default slots are 4-3-0 on the chest. With a 3 slot it becomes 4-4-1

He still has 15 budget left, and he rolls Foray which costs 9. So he lost 6 budget and still has 2 augment slots left.

The chest is actually 3-2-0.

[Remi]

Besides getting Chain Crit 1 on the Dereliction legs, my Silver Sol chest is now 4-4-3 at the cost of losing one Fire Attack. Really haven't gotten anything crazy yet, either good slots or single points of crit stuff.

[Wicked]

Originally posted by NiamhNyx:

The chest is actually 3-2-0.

Oh, was eating and looked online which said 4-3-0.

Then the budget got spent fully, 18 (3 slot) + 6 (1 slot) + 9 (Foray). Noice.

Edit: Actually might've covered all 7 augments if it turns out to be a 2slot and 2 1slots, -3 thunder, -2 skills and +1 skill.

Was testing around with the augment mod and you can min max like crazy.

[Hormesis]

Originally posted by Wicked:

Originally posted by iTriHard:

wtf? that shouldn't be possible. from that table i was looking at earlier the addition of 3 slots is a .5% chance and that's the best. not to mention since that's rarity 10 you shouldn't even be able to add the 3 slots since it would cost too much, even considering the -points from the loss of counter attack

Budget 10.

Each lost skill adds +10 to it, he lost 2 counterstrikes, so new budget is 30.

He also lost 3 thunder that adds another 3 to the budget. New budget is 33.

A slot 3 costs 18 points. Default slots are 4-3-0 on the chest. With a 3 slot it becomes 4-4-1

He still has 15 budget left, and he rolls Foray which costs 9. So he lost 6 budget and still has 2 augment slots left.

ah didn't realize it was a 4/3/0 default, that makes more sense then. that is a crazy good roll tho

[Wicked]

Originally posted by iTriHard:

Originally posted by Wicked:

Budget 10.

Each lost skill adds +10 to it, he lost 2 counterstrikes, so new budget is 30.

He also lost 3 thunder that adds another 3 to the budget. New budget is 33.

A slot 3 costs 18 points. Default slots are 4-3-0 on the chest. With a 3 slot it becomes 4-4-1

He still has 15 budget left, and he rolls Foray which costs 9. So he lost 6 budget and still has 2 augment slots left.

ah didn't realize it was a 4/3/0 default, that makes more sense then. that is a crazy good roll tho

I got it wrong when I looked it up online, it's 3-2-0, though the follow up math checks out - not sure why I wrote 4-3-0 and calculated it for 3-2-0 x)... A slot upgrade prioritizes the lowest/ empty slot first. so 3-2-0 -> 3-2-1 -> 4-2-1 -> 4-3-1 -> 4-4-1 -> 4-4-2 etc.

It's either a +3 and +1 slot roll (18 and 6 cost) OR two 2 slot rolls (2x 12 cost) and Foray is 9 cost which adds to 33 overall cost. If it's first it's 6 augments, if it's latter it's 7 augments. 3 negative and either 3 positive rolls or 4 positive rolls.

[NiamhNyx]

Originally posted by Nebby:

Originally posted by NiamhNyx:

It is possible.
There is a max of seven augments per piece of armor. I do not know the order, but these are what I would expect the augments to be after looking at the data from dtlnor.
Base Cost: 10
Augment 1: Skill - (+10 to total cost)
Augment 2: Skill - (+10 to total cost)
Augment 3: -3 Thunder Res (+3 to total cost)
New Cost: 33
Augment 4: Skill Rank B - 9 points
Augment 5: Slot + 2 or 3 or 1 } Combined cost of 4 slots is 24
Augment 6: Slot + 2 or 1 or 3 }
Augment 7: N/A (According to dtlnor, a 7th augment must be defense and requires certain conditions.)
24 + 9 = 33

Also that was after 342 augment attempts using 684 prime amber essence.

I do not believe that augment combination is legal. From dtlnor's spreadsheet, on the "AugPoolValue" tab if you scroll down the following is written:

"it give you the 1st roll guaranteed be defence aug, if its defence-, drop it, else install it."

Your following augment list does not contain any Defence+ or Defence- augments within the first 6 augments, which is supposed to be guaranteed as your first augment. I do not believe Resistance+ or Resistance- are part of the pool for the guaranteed first augment roll.

This reddit thread should help explain it further.

i have many rolls that dont have defense on them, thats him explaining HOW it works.

[NiamhNyx]

Originally posted by Nebby:

Originally posted by NiamhNyx:

i have many rolls that dont have defense on them, thats him explaining HOW it works.

It is possible to roll Defense- and Defense+ for different augment slots to balance each other, which may be why you are seeing no changes in defense for some equipment.

idk, i do know I got a couple times where the first roll for an armor piece did nothing. like just 100% nothing changed, confused the living ♥♥♥♥ out of me.

[NiamhNyx]

Originally posted by Nebby:

Originally posted by NiamhNyx:

i have many rolls that dont have defense on them, thats him explaining HOW it works.

It is possible to roll Defense- and Defense+ for different augment slots to balance each other, which may be why you are seeing no changes in defense for some equipment.

As an example, take Arc/Storge Helm with an Augment Pool of 5 with a starting Budget of 12:

Augment 1: Defense -12 (Budget is now 17)
Augment 2: Chain Crit +1 (Budget is now 5)
Augment 3: Bloodlust -1 (Budget is now 15)
Augment 4: Defense +12 (Budget is now 3)
Augment 5: Divine Blessing +1 (Budget is now 0)
Augment 6:
Augment 7:

This unsorted augment list should be legal according to dtlnor, yet it has no changes to the final defense of the armor piece.

I also have a second example, but with a rare 9.
excuse me while i get the right link
no defense and +4 slots, that one i dont have the screen shot of it when i got it though. but it did not have the glowy red around it.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2850901527

[Hormesis]

Originally posted by Wicked:

Originally posted by iTriHard:

ah didn't realize it was a 4/3/0 default, that makes more sense then. that is a crazy good roll tho

I got it wrong when I looked it up online, it's 3-2-0, though the follow up math checks out - not sure why I wrote 4-3-0 and calculated it for 3-2-0 x)... A slot upgrade prioritizes the lowest/ empty slot first. so 3-2-0 -> 3-2-1 -> 4-2-1 -> 4-3-1 -> 4-4-1 -> 4-4-2 etc.

It's either a +3 and +1 slot roll (18 and 6 cost) OR two 2 slot rolls (2x 12 cost) and Foray is 9 cost which adds to 33 overall cost. If it's first it's 6 augments, if it's latter it's 7 augments. 3 negative and either 3 positive rolls or 4 positive rolls.

so they had an increase of 4 slots

you're saying you can roll +3 slots and +1 slots, or +2slots and +2slots ?