Difference between Kill and Capture in Rise

[侍Kage]

So lets talk about this, apparently most people confused. In capture tutorial phase, game tells you the same thing as in world.

"Capturing a monster is made for our vegan players also it will shorten the hunt time and you may obtain some mats that cannot be obtainable by killing them. You will also get more mats."

I tried killing and capturing a lot. In world capturing was good but I don't see capturing in rise being good. Maybe for end game bosses or something? I've only checked few bosses mats drop chance, only around 2 mats being 3% higher chance of obtain than killing the monster, and you can't even get claws etc by capturing and you need claws a lot.

I don't understand, experienced rise players explain please!

[overmage]

Some materials cannot be obtained by carving at all so you capture for those, but like you said claws are way better to get via carving.

So basically: it depends. Choose based on what materials you need

[Dondu]

breaking arm gives claws
breaking head gives horn
breaking tail gives... tail
breaking back for scale...

then capture... always break the part you need...
i always aim for the arm if i need claw because i know the party will capture it to save then boom i got a claw :)

[Popcorn]

Capping is mainly for those rarer items like gems.
Otherwise, most of it is via the quest rewards.
So here's the example that I have for Anjanath plate
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2722367035

As you can see this is, ofc, a high rank, but the difference in capping for a plate is quite significant.

Looking at the nosebone, however, shows that breaking the part is another way of getting that part as well, meaning you will have to break it before you cap, or keep going until it breaks

[Fish]

Checked the drop rates in your hunter notes, depending on the item you want to farm you'll need to either capture or kill the monster, both have items exclusive to them. For example, a low rank Tigrex won't drop a Tigrex claw when capturing them and it won't drop a Tigrex fang when you kill them (though both are target rewards).

[侍Kage]

Originally posted by Popcorn:

Capping is mainly for those rarer items like gems.
Otherwise, most of it is via the quest rewards.
So here's the example that I have for Anjanath plate
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2722367035

As you can see this is, ofc, a high rank, but the difference in capping for a plate is quite significant.

Just 3% higher than killing, ofc 3% is not bad when it comes to this but if you also need other mats killing is better right? So maybe if farming plate only then capturing is better?

[Zukabazuka]

Well consider the only food you eat in this game is pretty much candy so I would say Rise is the Vegan edition compared to world.

[Popcorn]

Originally posted by 愛IcyTea Lemon:

Originally posted by Popcorn:

Capping is mainly for those rarer items like gems.
Otherwise, most of it is via the quest rewards.
So here's the example that I have for Anjanath plate
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2722367035

As you can see this is, ofc, a high rank, but the difference in capping for a plate is quite significant.

Just 3% higher than killing, ofc 3% is not bad when it comes to this but if you also need other mats killing is better right? So maybe if farming plate only then capturing is better?

It really depends.
On the chart, you can see so long as you break the part, you have a certain percentage of getting said part.
The chart on the left side helps determine your outcome of whether to cap or not.
Most of the "rare carve" is from the tail rather than the monster itself

[Dondu]

Originally posted by Popcorn:

Originally posted by 愛IcyTea Lemon:

Just 3% higher than killing, ofc 3% is not bad when it comes to this but if you also need other mats killing is better right? So maybe if farming plate only then capturing is better?

It really depends.
On the chart, you can see so long as you break the part, you have a certain percentage of getting said part.
The chart on the left side helps determine your outcome of whether to cap or not.
Most of the "rare carve" is from the tail rather than the monster itself

breaking part get you more chance to get claw or rare or whatever part is it, then sometimes breaking also drop... then capture also yield another chance... its basically maximizing the chances... just break the part then kill or capture

[侍Kage]

I see, so it really depends what you need in the end, i say it's a good balance but for mp i can't say the same. I think communication is the key there.

I also would like to know what *squares* mean near the drop chance %

[Popcorn]

Originally posted by 愛IcyTea Lemon:

I see, so it really depends what you need in the end, i say it's a good balance but for mp i can't say the same. I think communication is the key there.

I also would like to know what *squares* mean near the drop chance %

Seems like that's indicating that those are the highest chance of getting the item and that there's two things you have to keep in mind for said item.
So for Anja scale, there's two broken rewards part to it: break one, 60%; break two, 40%.

For the plate, you have 2 things to carve from: body and tail.
The table shows 7%, but thats the tail.
Theres also a 4% chance getting it from the body.
But as you can see, capping the monster gives you 3% more chance of getting the plate, so if youre aiming for a plate, cap.

Otherwise, like the others say, break parts, then cap/kill

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by 愛IcyTea Lemon:

So lets talk about this, apparently most people confused. In capture tutorial phase, game tells you the same thing as in world.

"Capturing a monster is made for our vegan players also it will shorten the hunt time and you may obtain some mats that cannot be obtainable by killing them. You will also get more mats."

I tried killing and capturing a lot. In world capturing was good but I don't see capturing in rise being good. Maybe for end game bosses or something? I've only checked few bosses mats drop chance, only around 2 mats being 3% higher chance of obtain than killing the monster, and you can't even get claws etc by capturing and you need claws a lot.

I don't understand, experienced rise players explain please!

Not sure if you still need this with the discussion so advanced ~

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2717340432

If you check the examples I am providing there, you can see there some finisher exclusives.

Long story short: just talk with your fellow hunters is my mindset. There is advantage in both finishers. And while some might have the capturing as part of their DNA for whatever reason, it is simple to retrain that. In fact, most monsters you capture are so close to being beaten without the need of a trap. Especially in multiplayer.

People saying it is just a matter of a single minute or so is no exaggeration. Unfortunately.

Originally posted by 愛IcyTea Lemon:

"Capturing a monster is made for our vegan players also it will shorten the hunt time and you may obtain some mats that cannot be obtainable by killing them. You will also get more mats."

I do not recall about the vegan part or whatsoever in tutorial, but here is a fun fact:

Capturing would be considered much worse than killing by European vegetarian and vegans, since those monsters end up in arena. You do not only not kill them, but you take them out of the wild to prolong their suffering.

In fact, our regional vegetarian would be actually okay with just killing them swiftly for meat, There is their mindset to be vegetarian because they are against how farm animals are kept. Which leads to the logical conclusion they are okay in consuming wild meat (boar, deer, turkey) and fish (for some unknown reason they do not care if fish is wild or aquacultured).

So yeah... with the players I play there is consensus in us being the monsters for breaking parts, hurting huge animals in their eco system to make fashion out of their hides, and then capturing them for even more sports in the arena... we might do them a favour by just killing them...