Anyone upset that this game has denuvo?

[Gonsnakex]

I really despise denuvo. People that played the pirate version of RE8 had a better experience than paying customers and I hate the Capcom keep using this thing in their games

[Dregora]

Draconic Creature님이 먼저 게시:

Dregora님이 먼저 게시:

It's also easily proven by a quick google search that there are still uncracked games to this date. My point is that it's all subjective, depending on what point of view you decide to be on, but non of it is 100%.

Uncracked games exist, yes, but that can also in large part be attributed to that people don't care about them anymore, no-one who can crack it considers it worth the effort anymore, etc.

A lot of the fifa games aren't cracked, which, as much as i hate them, are insanely popular. Dirt 5 isn't cracked, which is a high profile game in that scene. Monster hunter stories 2 was a huge success, wasn't cracked. Deathloop wasn't cracked. Far cry 6 wasn't cracked. Marvels guardians of the galaxies wasn't cracked.


My point is, it works. And I totally understand why they do it, considering most sales happen during the first few weeks of a release, hence why a lot of companies remove it later on. Good PR stunt and it did it 's job.

[!Cara]

Dregora님이 먼저 게시:

Draconic Creature님이 먼저 게시:

Uncracked games exist, yes, but that can also in large part be attributed to that people don't care about them anymore, no-one who can crack it considers it worth the effort anymore, etc.

A lot of the fifa games aren't cracked, which, as much as i hate them, are insanely popular. Dirt 5 isn't cracked, which is a high profile game in that scene. Monster hunter stories 2 was a huge success, wasn't cracked. Deathloop wasn't cracked. Far cry 6 wasn't cracked. Marvels guardians of the galaxies wasn't cracked.


My point is, it works. And I totally understand why they do it, considering most sales happen during the first few weeks of a release, hence why a lot of companies remove it later on. Good PR stunt and it did it 's job.

FIFA heavily relies on its online component nowadays so where is the incentive if you can't access the mode that most FIFA players care about?

[Draconic Creature]

Dregora님이 먼저 게시:

Draconic Creature님이 먼저 게시:

Uncracked games exist, yes, but that can also in large part be attributed to that people don't care about them anymore, no-one who can crack it considers it worth the effort anymore, etc.

A lot of the fifa games aren't cracked, which, as much as i hate them, are insanely popular. Dirt 5 isn't cracked, which is a high profile game in that scene. Monster hunter stories 2 was a huge success, wasn't cracked. Deathloop wasn't cracked. Far cry 6 wasn't cracked. Marvels guardians of the galaxies wasn't cracked.


My point is, it works. And I totally understand why they do it, considering most sales happen during the first few weeks of a release, hence why a lot of companies remove it later on. Good PR stunt and it did it 's job.

It works for preventing piracy, which doesn't magically create sales from said pirates, and it still just makes the product worse for paying customers. Now, if companies actually did remove it after the first few weeks then I wouldn't mind it as much, but most of them don't, and in fact they keep it in for as long as possible, if not for the entire bloody lifecycle of the game, which can backfire hard if the company goes under, or just doesn't care enough to remove the DRM once they're 'done' with the game.

[Rhyagelle]

Draconic Creature님이 먼저 게시:

Rhyagelle님이 먼저 게시:

Of course they lose something in the piracy of a newly released game. You cannot be serious. lol

So, what do they lose?

Are ya serious? Money. If you legit think there's no loss in piracy, that's gold.

[Gorilla Mode]

Emerald Lance님이 먼저 게시:

A lot of people are upset about it.

Is it worth getting upset about?

Yes. The answer is always yes. A paying customer should always have the best experience. Denuovo is a scam that impacts game performance noticeably on every single title that uses it, time and again, and does nothing to stop piracy anyway. So customers should complain, and have every right to, when their experiences are harmed by such invasive trash like Denuovo.

[Ember]

PINGAS Khan님이 먼저 게시:

Emerald Lance님이 먼저 게시:

A lot of people are upset about it.

Is it worth getting upset about?

Yes. The answer is always yes. A paying customer should always have the best experience. Denuovo is a scam that impacts game performance noticeably on every single title that uses it, time and again, and does nothing to stop piracy anyway. So customers should complain, and have every right to, when their experiences are harmed by such invasive trash like Denuovo.

It didn't in World. That was just the godawful programming from Capcom.

[Draconic Creature]

Rhyagelle님이 먼저 게시:

Draconic Creature님이 먼저 게시:

So, what do they lose?

Are ya serious? Money. If you legit think there's no loss in piracy, that's gold.

They lose money from sales that they likely never would get regardless? Heck, adding the DRM they likely lost some potential sales from those few pirates who use it as a demo.
A lot of people who pirate are those who just plain don't have the money, are victims of ridiculous regional pricing or simply can't buy the game whatsoever in their region, and DRM will not magically make them suddenly have the possibility to purchase the game.

And as for those that can buy the games but resort to pirating instead, most of those people will just go to something else instead, because why would they bother sticking around?

[lukaself]

Rhyagelle님이 먼저 게시:

Draconic Creature님이 먼저 게시:

So, what do they lose?

Are ya serious? Money. If you legit think there's no loss in piracy, that's gold.

Piracy is indeed an issue. However, as a manager I wouldn't risk betting away potential revenue on a middleware which in seven years, has never proven to be beneficial to sales in any shape or form and in several occasions, has shown to be a pure waste of development resources. We wouldn't have that discussion otherwise and Denuvo has been at their lowest adoption rate yet probably due to a lack of tangible results.

People in positions of power, however small, are known to often trust their gut more than evidence which isn't bad by itself when there's too much contradicting information but not when their prejudice against a poorly researched phenomenon leaves them vulnerable to other companies trying to financially benefit from their fears.

[Kyonko]

Not upset, just annoyed. I'll wait six or more months before getting the game, when they remove the DRM. Bonus points that I'll be likely getting it cheaper.

[Rhyagelle]

Draconic Creature님이 먼저 게시:

Rhyagelle님이 먼저 게시:

Are ya serious? Money. If you legit think there's no loss in piracy, that's gold.

They lose money from sales that they likely never would get regardless? Heck, adding the DRM they likely lost some potential sales from those few pirates who use it as a demo.
A lot of people who pirate are those who just plain don't have the money, are victims of ridiculous regional pricing or simply can't buy the game whatsoever in their region, and DRM will not magically make them suddenly have the possibility to purchase the game.

And as for those that can buy the games but resort to pirating instead, most of those people will just go to something else instead, because why would they bother sticking around?

That's not true at all. Stop acting like the only pirates are people who would never buy it or from countries where they couldn't even if they wanted. It's also a really ♥♥♥♥ argument to make against Denuvo and makes you look ridiculous. They lose far more money not protecting their assets, and it's proven time and time again by the implementation of the anti-piracy software.

[Rhyagelle]

lukaself님이 먼저 게시:

Rhyagelle님이 먼저 게시:

Are ya serious? Money. If you legit think there's no loss in piracy, that's gold.

Piracy is indeed an issue. However, as a manager I wouldn't risk betting away potential revenue on a middleware which in seven years, has never proven to be beneficial to sales in any shape or form and in several occasions, has shown to be a pure waste of development resources. We wouldn't have that discussion otherwise and Denuvo has been at their lowest adoption rate yet probably due to a lack of tangible results.

People in positions of power, however small, are known to often trust their gut more than evidence which isn't bad by itself when there's too much contradicting information but not when their prejudice against a poorly researched phenomenon leaves them vulnerable to other companies trying to financially benefit from their fears.

The amount of people who won't buy because of Denuvo is ridiculously small compared to those who will buy. They aren't losing anything by implementing it. They are, however, are protecting potentially hundreds of thousands by offering protection to stop people from just getting it for free.

[!Cara]

lukaself님이 먼저 게시:

Rhyagelle님이 먼저 게시:

Are ya serious? Money. If you legit think there's no loss in piracy, that's gold. :lunar2019crylaughingpig:

Piracy is indeed an issue. However, as a manager I wouldn't risk betting away potential revenue on a middleware which in seven years, has never proven to be beneficial to sales in any shape or form and in several occasions, has shown to be a pure waste of development resources. We wouldn't have that discussion otherwise and Denuvo has been at their lowest adoption rate yet probably due to a lack of tangible results.

People in positions of power, however small, are known to often trust their gut more than evidence which isn't bad by itself when there's too much contradicting information but not when their prejudice against a poorly researched phenomenon leaves them vulnerable to other companies trying to financially benefit from their fears.

In fact it has been proven that piracy helps sales of certain media, games included
https://gizmodo.com/the-eu-suppressed-a-300-page-study-that-found-piracy-do-1818629537
Downloadlink to actual study is in the article if you're like me and distrust gaming media

[The Time Traveler]

Gonzo님이 먼저 게시:

I really despise denuvo. People that played the pirate version of RE8 had a better experience than paying customers and I hate the Capcom keep using this thing in their games

probably hacker/cheater types and whatnot might be offended, yep. its fun to watch them squirm tho.

[!Cara]

Rhyagelle님이 먼저 게시:

Draconic Creature님이 먼저 게시:

They lose money from sales that they likely never would get regardless? Heck, adding the DRM they likely lost some potential sales from those few pirates who use it as a demo.
A lot of people who pirate are those who just plain don't have the money, are victims of ridiculous regional pricing or simply can't buy the game whatsoever in their region, and DRM will not magically make them suddenly have the possibility to purchase the game.

And as for those that can buy the games but resort to pirating instead, most of those people will just go to something else instead, because why would they bother sticking around?

That's not true at all. Stop acting like the only pirates are people who would never buy it or from countries where they couldn't even if they wanted. It's also a really ♥♥♥♥ argument to make against Denuvo and makes you look ridiculous. They lose far more money not protecting their assets, and it's proven time and time again by the implementation of the anti-piracy software.

Rhyagelle님이 먼저 게시:

lukaself님이 먼저 게시:

Piracy is indeed an issue. However, as a manager I wouldn't risk betting away potential revenue on a middleware which in seven years, has never proven to be beneficial to sales in any shape or form and in several occasions, has shown to be a pure waste of development resources. We wouldn't have that discussion otherwise and Denuvo has been at their lowest adoption rate yet probably due to a lack of tangible results.

People in positions of power, however small, are known to often trust their gut more than evidence which isn't bad by itself when there's too much contradicting information but not when their prejudice against a poorly researched phenomenon leaves them vulnerable to other companies trying to financially benefit from their fears.

The amount of people who won't buy because of Denuvo is ridiculously small compared to those who will buy. They aren't losing anything by implementing it. They are, however, are protecting potentially hundreds of thousands by offering protection to stop people from just getting it for free.

I pointed out proof that it doesn't help sales, but piracy does help, now it's your turn

[Nauct]

Dregora님이 먼저 게시:

Draconic Creature님이 먼저 게시:

Uncracked games exist, yes, but that can also in large part be attributed to that people don't care about them anymore, no-one who can crack it considers it worth the effort anymore, etc.

A lot of the fifa games aren't cracked, which, as much as i hate them, are insanely popular. Dirt 5 isn't cracked, which is a high profile game in that scene. Monster hunter stories 2 was a huge success, wasn't cracked. Deathloop wasn't cracked. Far cry 6 wasn't cracked. Marvels guardians of the galaxies wasn't cracked.


My point is, it works. And I totally understand why they do it, considering most sales happen during the first few weeks of a release, hence why a lot of companies remove it later on. Good PR stunt and it did it 's job.

Your examples are bad, the Fifa games are an online experience so cracking is pointless. The rest of the games you listed are trash, no real gamer is interested in any of them.