focus is terrible why people recommend it?

[Bum]

I seriously don't see whats the point of focus (from gs perspective). It gives me .4 at the very ver yvery best. But for hte most optimal combo to tcs it gives barely .2s ... AT LEVEL 3. That's useless as hell yet i see people say how this is mandatory for gs... no it's not.

I would welcome this skill with better armor sets but in the current state there are better skills to go for than this

[Bum]

Originally posted by Yew Nough:

I'll have to check this myself, not a fan of how some of the blademaster skills were reworked into more useless skills.

I'm starting to understand why everyone's running bow/gun...

Yeah i can understand why you would go for the more heavy dps weapons but i still prefer the thrill of hitting the monster with a blade or hammer/horn than stun him to death with a gun or buny hop with bow :p I have more respect for the weebs than range tbh :p

[DaBa]

If you cannot see why focus is so good for GS then you're just not good enough yet to take the advantage of faster charging times. Being able to get to each charge level slightly faster is an absolute boon.

So yes, if you want to play the weapon on the absolutely highest level, it's mandatory. I've seen people run only 2 levels sometimes even, it still helps. But is it mandatory in general? No, no skill is mandatory to do anything.

[Bum]

Originally posted by DaBa:

If you cannot see why focus is so good for GS then you're just not good enough yet to take the advantage of faster charging times. Being able to get to each charge level slightly faster is an absolute boon.

So yes, if you want to play the weapon on the absolutely highest level, it's mandatory. I've seen people run only 2 levels sometimes even, it still helps. But is it mandatory in general? No, no skill is mandatory to do anything.

yes let me save .2s real qiuck, maybe you're the bad one for not being able to charge your blade .2s before i started the charge? Maybe i can read the mosnter better than you. Oh no you're bad now. Great argument buddy.

[DaBa]

Originally posted by Bum:

Originally posted by DaBa:

If you cannot see why focus is so good for GS then you're just not good enough yet to take the advantage of faster charging times. Being able to get to each charge level slightly faster is an absolute boon.

So yes, if you want to play the weapon on the absolutely highest level, it's mandatory. I've seen people run only 2 levels sometimes even, it still helps. But is it mandatory in general? No, no skill is mandatory to do anything.

yes let me save .2s real qiuck, maybe you're the bad one for not being able to charge your blade .2s before i started the charge? Maybe i can read the mosnter better than you. Oh no you're bad now. Great argument buddy.

I don't need to make any argument here, it's self apparent. But why listen to me, random guy from the Steam forums, go look at people who specialize in playing weapons at the highest level and look at what armor sets they are using. Most of them run Focus with GS.

Besides, it's also pretty clear that you aren't there yet as far as weapon mastery goes. GS is not all about spamming TCS. You literally cannot do that, unless you want to want to fail and get hit on most of your attempts. If you play optimally, you will use all the charges whenever they are applicable. You only use TCS when you know it will hit. And saving a fraction of a second on a charge is often a difference between lower and higher level of charge, or getting hit or not after you do it.

[vaanomega]

Originally posted by Bum:

Originally posted by DaBa:

If you cannot see why focus is so good for GS then you're just not good enough yet to take the advantage of faster charging times. Being able to get to each charge level slightly faster is an absolute boon.

So yes, if you want to play the weapon on the absolutely highest level, it's mandatory. I've seen people run only 2 levels sometimes even, it still helps. But is it mandatory in general? No, no skill is mandatory to do anything.

yes let me save .2s real qiuck, maybe you're the bad one for not being able to charge your blade .2s before i started the charge? Maybe i can read the mosnter better than you. Oh no you're bad now. Great argument buddy.

To be sure if the skill is totally useless or not, you will have to compare your charge times vs monsters attack speed, personaly, i don't know, i'm not a GS player

[Bum]

Originally posted by DaBa:

Originally posted by Bum:

yes let me save .2s real qiuck, maybe you're the bad one for not being able to charge your blade .2s before i started the charge? Maybe i can read the mosnter better than you. Oh no you're bad now. Great argument buddy.

I don't need to make any argument here, it's self apparent. But why listen to me, random guy from the Steam forums, go look at people who specialize in playing weapons at the highest level and look at what armor sets they are using. Most of them run Focus with GS.

Besides, it's also pretty clear that you aren't there yet as far as weapon mastery goes. GS is not all about spamming TCS. You literally cannot do that, unless you want to want to fail and get hit on most of your attempts. If you play optimally, you will use all the charges whenever they are applicable. You only use TCS when you know it will hit. And saving a fraction of a second on a charge is often a difference between lower and higher level of charge, or getting hit or not after you do it.

keep thinking you're the best out there. You seem like someone that uses guides from others to play cause you ge tthe feeling you're good because you got the build that does 1 million dmg per second but you hardly get a hit.

[DaBa]

Originally posted by vaanomega:

Originally posted by Bum:

yes let me save .2s real qiuck, maybe you're the bad one for not being able to charge your blade .2s before i started the charge? Maybe i can read the mosnter better than you. Oh no you're bad now. Great argument buddy.

To be sure if the skill is totally useless or not, you will have to compare your charge times vs monsters attack speed, personaly, i don't know, i'm not a GS player

I am no master either, but even I can clearly tell how much of an impact it makes and how many more options you have thanks to it.

I think OP is just stuck playing the weapon in a really weird way judging by his weird frustration about it only saving a little bit of time if you rush to TCS, which is something that barely ever happens outside toppling the monster or immobilizing it.

[DaBa]

Originally posted by Bum:

Originally posted by DaBa:

I don't need to make any argument here, it's self apparent. But why listen to me, random guy from the Steam forums, go look at people who specialize in playing weapons at the highest level and look at what armor sets they are using. Most of them run Focus with GS.

Besides, it's also pretty clear that you aren't there yet as far as weapon mastery goes. GS is not all about spamming TCS. You literally cannot do that, unless you want to want to fail and get hit on most of your attempts. If you play optimally, you will use all the charges whenever they are applicable. You only use TCS when you know it will hit. And saving a fraction of a second on a charge is often a difference between lower and higher level of charge, or getting hit or not after you do it.

keep thinking you're the best out there.

Thanks for proving my point. Refusing to address arguments and misrepresenting other side's stance is the easiest way to show you have nothing to say and concede the argument. I hope you continue to improve at GS and one day you also are able to take advantage of focus!

[Bum]

Originally posted by DaBa:

Originally posted by vaanomega:

To be sure if the skill is totally useless or not, you will have to compare your charge times vs monsters attack speed, personaly, i don't know, i'm not a GS player

I am no master either, but even I can clearly tell how much of an impact it makes and how many more options you have thanks to it.

I think OP is just stuck playing the weapon in a really weird way judging by his weird frustration about it only saving a little bit of time if you rush to TCS, which is something that barely ever happens outside toppling the monster or immobilizing it.

I will mostly charge 2 yeah, only time i do tcs is when i know i have the time. The tcs is an example of how much it saves from a stand point. If you go for less it's even more insignificant.

[Bum]

Originally posted by DaBa:

Originally posted by Bum:

keep thinking you're the best out there.

Thanks for proving my point. Refusing to address arguments and misrepresenting other side's stance is the easiest way to show you have nothing to say and concede the argument. I hope you continue to improve at GS and one day you also are able to take advantage of focus!

there's nothing to take advantage of but keep thinking that.

[lolschrauber]

I stopped using focus, too. Better alternatives, the effect is just too small for GS and hammer.

[Bum]

Originally posted by lolschrauber:

I stopped using focus, too. Better alternatives, the effect is just too small for GS and hammer.

Yeah idk what they are on about. The ysaw guides online and think they are super natural now, incapable of their own judgement just repeats what they saw on some shady speedrunner video :D

[vaanomega]

Originally posted by Bum:

Originally posted by lolschrauber:

I stopped using focus, too. Better alternatives, the effect is just too small for GS and hammer.

Yeah idk what they are on about. The ysaw guides online and think they are super natural now, incapable of their own judgement just repeats what they saw on some shady speedrunner video :D

Maybe it is optimal for some monsters, who knows ? You ? Certainly not. Me ? Not really, i'm not a Speed Runner not a GS player, lets not juge a skill just because someone can or cannot take advantage of it, try it, if you don't feel anything from it, take a skill that suit your playstyle better

[Jargous]

Focus is more of an extra skill to pick up by personal preference. Given the very limited builds you can currently have, focus is more of a skill to get based on confidence of using the weapon (includes monster familiarity). I'd rather have something like partbreaker to get rid of a tail (if it's possible on the monster) especially if you simply need to fill a deco slot. This assumes that you're getting Focus Lv. 2.

I'm not great at using GS, but have used it given where it proves extremely advantageous against certain monsters given my play style. If you tried CB and go for Savage Axe mode, understanding when to hold the button and when not to is basically like TCS (from my experience) on GS, just that CB is much more forgiving because it doesn't require you do build up into the combo.

Once I build up enough money, I'll start trying out GS. After working with GL and CB, GS and SnS were my next targets for weapon use.

[Bum]

Originally posted by Jargous:

Focus is more of an extra skill to pick up by personal preference. Given the very limited builds you can currently have, focus is more of a skill to get based on confidence of using the weapon (includes monster familiarity). I'd rather have something like partbreaker to get rid of a tail (if it's possible on the monster) especially if you simply need to fill a deco slot. This assumes that you're getting Focus Lv. 2.

I'm not great at using GS, but have used it given where it proves extremely advantageous against certain monsters given my play style. If you tried CB and go for Savage Axe mode, understanding when to hold the button and when not to is basically like TCS (from my experience) on GS, just that CB is much more forgiving because it doesn't require you do build up into the combo.

Once I build up enough money, I'll start trying out GS. After working with GL and CB, GS and SnS were my next targets for weapon use.

yeah i agree to that, you can take advantage of that if there were better sets, but right now this is very niche to go for given the armor sets we have, you are much better using more affinity/atk/slugger/drain what ever part breaker or anything else that gives you real advantage. Sunbreak may bring more sets with actual deco slots to allow that kind of extras