Micro stuttering every 6.5 seconds

[Agent Dark Bootie]

How's it going out there fellow hunters? Got a little bit of a problem a friend of mine is having. Figured I'd try to see if anybody has anything similar going on here or maybe a potential fix.


So as the title suggests. My friend has a micro stutter every 6 and 1/2 seconds. I watched him via a video call and watch the MSI afterburner Spike on time every single time at about 6 and 1/2 seconds. Frame rate would take to zero full split second and come back. He is rocking a 8700k overclocked. 32 gigs of Trident Z memory a 3090 FTW3 edition. I know he's rocking that Samsung g9? I think it's a g9. The one that's 49 in or something crazy like that ultralight curve monitor.

We have gone as far as turning everything down graphically and even dropping the resolution to 640x480. It doesn't really matter. Oddly enough he is having the same problem in borderlands 3 as well as a few other games that I can't think of off the top of my head. However there is one thing he does that fixes it all but it makes no sense to either one of us.

If you put steam into offline mode the games work just fine. No micro stuttering. No nothing. Obviously he can't play online because he is offline. He's got fiber optics internet and his speed is stupidly high. We reset the router, modem, everything that we can think of okay still no dice.. but without fail all of those games that he has his exact problem with stop having that problem once you put steam into offline mode. We both thought maybe it has something to do with the nouveau but borderlands 3 had that patched out of it and we both played through monster Hunter world with zero problems. He didn't have a 3090 at the time. But it was the same exact system. Just with 1080 TI's in SLI.

Any insight you guys may have in this kind of issue?

[Azure Fang]

If they're having the same problem in multiple games, it's the overclock. Not every game runs stable under overclock conditions. They should return to stock and see if the issue clears up.

[Id3alistic]

Sometimes I have these lag spikes/freezes. I think it's the online servers though. Every other game is fine for me.

[noob]

If not mistaken it's the DRM. I played on both my own and friend's PC, but not every 6.5 seconds, more like a minute or so, whether online or offline.

[Nauct]

I have a beast gaming PC as well. In town it's every like 5 seconds, drops to 1fps for 1 frames. In the hunt it's not as bad but happens. This happens with every Denuvo game for me. Dragonquest XI and Monster Hunter World same thing.
Make sure you have fps unlocked or set to really high, helped make it less noticeable for me since 1fps for 1frame is not as noticeable if you have more frames

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Azure Fang:

If they're having the same problem in multiple games, it's the overclock. Not every game runs stable under overclock conditions. They should return to stock and see if the issue clears up.

It is hard to think it is because of the overclocking when it works just fine offline, right?

Originally posted by Agent Dark Booty:

How's it going out there fellow hunters? Got a little bit of a problem a friend of mine is having. Figured I'd try to see if anybody has anything similar going on here or maybe a potential fix.


So as the title suggests. My friend has a micro stutter every 6 and 1/2 seconds. I watched him via a video call and watch the MSI afterburner Spike on time every single time at about 6 and 1/2 seconds. Frame rate would take to zero full split second and come back. He is rocking a 8700k overclocked. 32 gigs of Trident Z memory a 3090 FTW3 edition. I know he's rocking that Samsung g9? I think it's a g9. The one that's 49 in or something crazy like that ultralight curve monitor.

We have gone as far as turning everything down graphically and even dropping the resolution to 640x480. It doesn't really matter. Oddly enough he is having the same problem in borderlands 3 as well as a few other games that I can't think of off the top of my head. However there is one thing he does that fixes it all but it makes no sense to either one of us.

If you put steam into offline mode the games work just fine. No micro stuttering. No nothing. Obviously he can't play online because he is offline. He's got fiber optics internet and his speed is stupidly high. We reset the router, modem, everything that we can think of okay still no dice.. but without fail all of those games that he has his exact problem with stop having that problem once you put steam into offline mode. We both thought maybe it has something to do with the nouveau but borderlands 3 had that patched out of it and we both played through monster Hunter world with zero problems. He didn't have a 3090 at the time. But it was the same exact system. Just with 1080 TI's in SLI.

Any insight you guys may have in this kind of issue?

Do you know what router they are using? If it happens with other games as well, that is where I would start looking.

[GrandTickler]

try mess with the type of syncing being used.

just for a test try a vsync/tripplebuffer with monitor set up to be 60hz with 60 fps ingame. i have a feeling that will fix it as this may just be a console port quirk. if that works you can go from there to test desired HZ/sync to see what causes the issue

[CptnSpandex]

FTW edition cards are notorious for being utter garbage in general, alot of games dont get on with the ridiculously high overclock they already have, then with an overclocked processor on top of that and afterburner at the same time, those could all be the cause, and im betting he has tampered with overclocking even more which is something you really really should not do if you dont know EXACTLY what you are doing.

[KenpoJuJitsu3]

Good evening everyone, I'm the person with this issue. Thank you for trying to help.

For all the comments about overclocking and hardware, it's objectively not. I know exactly what I'm doing, I've being doing this for over 3 decades at this point across hundreds of machines and thousands of configurations, personally and professionally.

I have over 5,000 games installed (yes really, not owned. Installed) and the issue is repeatable with only a small handful of Steam games being affected of the 200+ I've gone through in the last few days trying to nail this down. The affected ones are only affected when Steam is in online mode. Offline mode completely clears the issue, and no non-Steam games are affected at all (UPlay, Origin, BattleNet, Gog, etc. none of them), whether they are launched from Steam or not.

I'm 99% sure it's some network configuration issue with Steam and I can't put my finger on it. Networks are not my area of expertise. The most obvious example is actually in Borderlands 3. The game runs just fine, but the *exact* moment it connects to Shift servers the microstutter ever 5-6 seconds begins. In MH Rise it happens right in the middle of the compiling shaders step when Rise also starts its network connection cycle.

[GrandTickler]

Originally posted by KenpoJuJitsu3:

Good evening everyone, I'm the person with this issue. Thank you for trying to help.

For all the comments about overclocking and hardware, it's objectively not. I know exactly what I'm doing, I've being doing this for over 3 decades at this point across hundreds of machines and thousands of configurations, personally and professionally.

I have over 5,000 games installed (yes really, not owned. Installed) and the issue is repeatable with only a small handful of Steam games being affected of the 200+ I've gone through in the last few days trying to nail this down. The affected ones are only affected when Steam is in online mode. Offline mode completely clears the issue, and no non-Steam games are affected at all (UPlay, Origin, BattleNet, Gog, etc. none of them), whether they are launched from Steam or not.

I'm 99% sure it's some network configuration issue with Steam and I can't put my finger on it. Networks are not my area of expertise. The most obvious example is actually in Borderlands 3. The game runs just fine, but the *exact* moment it connects to Shift servers the microstutter ever 5-6 seconds begins. In MH Rise it happens right in the middle of the compiling shaders step when Rise also starts its network connection cycle.

if u think its a router/modem issue, try connect to a server browser list based game. back when my modem started malfunctioning it would knock out my internet if the amount of pings per minute were set too high in the steam options. (internet would just go down during server browsing) that number became lower and lower over the years until i had to buy a new modem. now im just able to handle max pings per second again. its probably not your issue but maybe worth a shot

[Gweenie]

Most stutters and fps drops are tied to not capping your frames, use fixes on the MHR Nexus to fix it or cap your fps to 60 or below

[KenpoJuJitsu3]

Originally posted by Goyliath:

Does he have a large friends list by chance?

Just 135

[Azure Fang]

Originally posted by KenpoJuJitsu3:

Good evening everyone, I'm the person with this issue. Thank you for trying to help.

For all the comments about overclocking and hardware, it's objectively not. I know exactly what I'm doing, I've being doing this for over 3 decades at this point across hundreds of machines and thousands of configurations, personally and professionally.

I have over 5,000 games installed (yes really, not owned. Installed) and the issue is repeatable with only a small handful of Steam games being affected of the 200+ I've gone through in the last few days trying to nail this down. The affected ones are only affected when Steam is in online mode. Offline mode completely clears the issue, and no non-Steam games are affected at all (UPlay, Origin, BattleNet, Gog, etc. none of them), whether they are launched from Steam or not.

I'm 99% sure it's some network configuration issue with Steam and I can't put my finger on it. Networks are not my area of expertise. The most obvious example is actually in Borderlands 3. The game runs just fine, but the *exact* moment it connects to Shift servers the microstutter ever 5-6 seconds begins. In MH Rise it happens right in the middle of the compiling shaders step when Rise also starts its network connection cycle.

I never questioned that you know what you're doing. I said that some games simply do not perform well under OC conditions. Resetting to stock is always the first diagnostic test when you've got multiple pieces of software misperforming.

[KenpoJuJitsu3]

Originally posted by Azure Fang:

Resetting to stock is always the first diagnostic test when you've got multiple pieces of software misperforming.

Which is why it was one of the first things I did, jusssssst in case. But no dice. Wish I knew specifics about what Steam does differently between online mode and offline mode, because the issue triggers for these games in online mode even when I'm playing solo and not connected/partied with anyone.

Originally posted by Goyliath:

Originally posted by KenpoJuJitsu3:

Just 135

I think it would be worth it to try blocking (not removing) your whole friends list and see if you still get the stutters. I have 300+ added and steam is typically the culprit for my stutters. Blocking the entirety of my list always fixes it.

Having a slow moment. What do you mean by blocking the whole list. not removing?

[KenpoJuJitsu3]

Definitely network related. Launching with Steam in online mode but the ethernet disabled in windows removes the issue. As soon as I re-enable the ethernet, back to the microstutter every 6 seconds regardless of framerate.

[wizyte]

Its a problem that people don't seem to understand. We've been discussing the issue and relevant workarounds in another post

"Weird stutters/framedrops?"

So far, Capcom has been ignoring the issue. This issue also was present in the Demo. All these suggestions here make no difference. So far the only fix is to play in Borderless Window. Which ofc you then lose HDR... so yay :{