Lance Mains (both of you...)

[Bort]

I loved lance since Generations and MHW. Lance in Rise, however... if off. Not just because the wirebug and switch attacks are terrible. Even regular play doesn't feel right.

I fought the same monsters in World and Rise to try and figure out what it is and I have a theory. The animations are a touch slower. The charge attack hits at about half speed. You're slightly slower to raise your shield, perform a counter, there's a cooldown between counters so if they attack multiple times you still get hit.

Has anyone else noticed this or am I imagining things?

[Bort]

Guard up used to be one point and would let you block unblockable attacks. Now, it's three points, still lets you block the attacks, but you only block 30%/50%80% of the damage. And no lower rank armours have it.

[vaanomega]

Greb님이 먼저 게시:

Emerald Lance님이 먼저 게시:

*all good stuff*

Thanks for the info. And there's no health regen augments anymore, right? So there's not much chance to sustain the chip damage by healing it with a few well placed jabs. I know in Iceborne I only began enjoying the Lance and its counter ability once I got to the end game and got health regen augments again because of the chip.

cyäegha님이 먼저 게시:

silver lining is that at least we haven't been as historically hard done-by as gunlancers are

Oh? Please explain!

you can use the Kushala armor (kushala's blessing) for passive health regen

[Misfit]

Bort님이 먼저 게시:

You're slightly slower to raise your shield

definitely after some moves.
and the new specials suck, one is better without guard (which is just not my style).
and the thrust is cool, but a boring and strange playstyle.
its still powerful and maybe the easiest weapon to safely kill all the endgame monsters, but i switched from a lance main to lbg, its just more fun.

[Gom]

I hate that swipe is the strongest normal move for a freakin Lance.

[ColonelBaker]

Lance is pretty bad in Rise. It feels off. It's funny that the Long Sword is better at countering and punishing attacks than the Lance. Lance was one of my main weapons in World but I gave up on it in Rise. Gunlance is really fun in Rise though.

[awanderingswordsman]

It's ironic you would say that since gunlance is significantly weaker than even lance in rise.

Lance right now is spiral thurst spam and charged slap when on CD. Spiral thrust IS a very good silkbind and it does give a ton of mobility so saying it's got no good silkbinds and none that help with mobility is a lie. Guard points DO trigger offensive guard as well.

[ColonelBaker]

awanderingswordsman님이 먼저 게시:

It's ironic you would say that since gunlance is significantly weaker than even lance in rise.

Lance right now is spiral thurst spam and charged slap when on CD. Spiral thrust IS a very good silkbind and it does give a ton of mobility so saying it's got no good silkbinds and none that help with mobility is a lie. Guard points DO trigger offensive guard as well.

Yes, Gunlance is arguably the weakest weapon in Rise, but it's still a lot of fun to play, unlike the lance.

[Misfit]

awanderingswordsman님이 먼저 게시:

It's ironic you would say that since gunlance is significantly weaker than even lance in rise.

Lance right now is spiral thurst spam and charged slap when on CD. Spiral thrust IS a very good silkbind and it does give a ton of mobility so saying it's got no good silkbinds and none that help with mobility is a lie. Guard points DO trigger offensive guard as well.

spiral thrust is really powerful, thats the problem, you just zoom around the map like a maniac, which feels pretty weird for lance.

[la_nague]

Greb님이 먼저 게시:

I heard the Lance got shat on in Rise because the shield chip damage or stamina consumption is insane even with Guard 5, and that Shield Up or whatever it's called, the one that lets you block the usual unblockable, is also absolutely terrible and doesn't block most things anyway, right?

You're telling me they also didn't get any decent wirebug moves either, and now the one cool thing they got in Iceborne AKA the counter move has been nerfed and put on a cooldown too?

Poor Lance users did they at least get something cool like SnS having a 100% Affinity SnS with like 90% green sharpness all the way through? A Lance with 100% Affinity and borderline infinite sharpness would be nice lol. I miss the Garon Lance from vanilla World, that thing was kinda fun.

There is also no health regen augment.


Basically lance got the dmg it wanted, but lost everything else xD

[Fraktal]

Lance still has the easiest guard point in the game. So there is that..

[Gravysamich]

this is sadly why i went from being a lance main to trying gunlance. it still feels somewhat like the lance i loved but has the cool flashy moves and added mobility from switch skills. i really hope lance gets looked at with sunbreak.

[The Time Traveler]

Lances are realistically a very poor footmans weapon, and are better used horseback. Even then tho if you missed on a pass it was likely your horses legs would get cut out from under you by your enemies swing. Not sure why they keep surfacing as a high speed melee weapon in gaming. I guess i can assume they were out of ideas.

[Bort]

Shadow님이 먼저 게시:

Lances are realistically a very poor footmans weapon, and are better used horseback. Even then tho if you missed on a pass it was likely your horses legs would get cut out from under you by your enemies swing. Not sure why they keep surfacing as a high speed melee weapon in gaming. I guess i can assume they were out of ideas.

It was one of the original weapons from the first game. My guess is if you're strong enough to handle the greatsword, this is what you do with a lance.

[Lu2]

gunlance is great as usual

[Lu2]

ColonelBaker님이 먼저 게시:

awanderingswordsman님이 먼저 게시:

It's ironic you would say that since gunlance is significantly weaker than even lance in rise.

Lance right now is spiral thurst spam and charged slap when on CD. Spiral thrust IS a very good silkbind and it does give a ton of mobility so saying it's got no good silkbinds and none that help with mobility is a lie. Guard points DO trigger offensive guard as well.

Yes, Gunlance is arguably the weakest weapon in Rise, but it's still a lot of fun to play, unlike the lance.

weakest haha . dont make me laugh you playing gunlance wrong its time to practice proper shelling for great dps