Hey Capcom, you should put VAC protection on the next MH game.

[AH-1 Cobra]

For players who want to play on VAC protected servers, without any cheaters/modders. The later can still play, but they isolate themselves into a separate pool.

This might sound like a hot take, but it's really not. Everyone basically gets what they want, the ones who only want to play with non-cheaters or modders can have a VAC protected server, and the ones who don't can do whatever they want in their own separate unprotected pool.

[アンジェル]

I'm Commander Shepard, and this Is my favorite store on the Citadel.

Originally posted by crimsonedge11:

For players who want to play on VAC protected servers, without any cheaters/modders. The later can still play, but they isolate themselves into a separate pool.

This might sound like a hot take, but it's really not. Everyone basically gets what they want, the ones who only want to play with non-cheaters or modders can have a VAC protected server, and the ones who don't can do whatever they want in their own separate unprotected pool.

Would that not set the expectation that the next Monster Hunter would be like Monster Hunter Online a PC game only?

[815|Shouldabeen]

Unfortunately Switch doesn't have VAC protection.

[AH-1 Cobra]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Would that not set the expectation that the next Monster Hunter would be like Monster Hunter Online a PC game only?

It doesn't have to be online only, or even PC only, they could simply add it to the PC release of the game.

You want to play solo offline, or online on unprotected server, and run tons of mods, and edit god charms in, you got a launcher for that which uses a client sided save.

You want VAC protected server, you have to use a server sided save.

I'd be interested in seeing which one the majority of the community would choose.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by 815|Shouldabeen:

Unfortunately Switch doesn't have VAC protection.

I wish I could be that optimistic that the next Monster Hunter installment would be a Nintendo Switch game again. I am actually looking forward for Monster Hunter: World 2 for the Playstation 5, with the option of playing it on PC a year later ~

Originally posted by crimsonedge11:

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Would that not set the expectation that the next Monster Hunter would be like Monster Hunter Online a PC game only?

It doesn't have to be online only, or even PC only, they could simply add it to the PC release of the game.

You want to play solo offline, or online on unprotected server, and run tons of mods, and edit god charms in, you got a launcher for that which uses a client sided save.

You want VAC protected server, you have to use a server sided save.

I'd be interested in seeing which one the majority of the community would choose.

While it is indeed an interesting kind of survey, I am afraid the majority of players would be like usual: opting out for the default.

[!Cara]

Originally posted by crimsonedge11:

For players who want to play on VAC protected servers, without any cheaters/modders. The later can still play, but they isolate themselves into a separate pool.

This might sound like a hot take, but it's really not. Everyone basically gets what they want, the ones who only want to play with non-cheaters or modders can have a VAC protected server, and the ones who don't can do whatever they want in their own separate unprotected pool.

1. monhun games dont run servers
2. just kick/ban people that badly affect your gameplay
3. its just fcking pve, refer to 1. and 2.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by cruste:

Is it worth to waste cash on this system?
How much does the usage cost?
you know the vac memes?

If you have details on numbers and such, I am highly interested.
I always wonder if games actually become more expensive because of something like Denuvo. I question the cost there as much as I question costs spent on games being hyped through advertisement. Every Cent spent on advertisement is in my opinion a Cent too much spent, for something which you could put into game developement and proper pay for studio employees in general.

[815|Shouldabeen]

Originally posted by crimsonedge11:

The VAC memes are made by angry, vindictive teenagers who cheated on a VAC protected server, and got flushed. People can read the steam-VAC section replies.

IDK if it still happens because I haven't played counterstrike since source, but they used to get a lot of false-positive bans. I was banned from CS source (VAC ban) at one point when I have never cheated/exploited/glitched in an online game. At the time, I was pretty good at the game even, and took pride in it. Not saying I was a pro or anything, but was good in PUG matches.

[vaanomega]

Are cheater than common in MH Rise ? On MH World PC, i only saw two cheaters in hundreds of hunts

[815|Shouldabeen]

Originally posted by vaanomega:

Are cheater than common in MH Rise ? On MH World PC, i only saw two cheaters in hundreds of hunts

That depends on your definition of cheating, While many players (including myself) play the game unmodded, there are a lot of people that run mods, some of which definitely give you information or impact gameplay in a meaningful way that could be construed as cheating.

[!Cara]

Originally posted by vaanomega:

Are cheater than common in MH Rise ? On MH World PC, i only saw two cheaters in hundreds of hunts

who knows how common they are
most cheaters are just modding in items/gear that they would have to grind for which is cheating but doesnt affect your gameplay so how would you know how many cheaters you had in your lobbies and why would anybody even care? if someone is straight up invincible or 1shotting monsters its enough to block them and not deal with them, people doing this are so far in the minority that i have yet to see one in either world or rise

[!Cara]

Originally posted by 815|Shouldabeen:

Originally posted by vaanomega:

Are cheater than common in MH Rise ? On MH World PC, i only saw two cheaters in hundreds of hunts

That depends on your definition of cheating, While many players (including myself) play the game unmodded, there are a lot of people that run mods, some of which definitely give you information or impact gameplay in a meaningful way that could be construed as cheating.

as long as they dont spam that information into the lobby how would you notice/care? and at that point kick and ban the person

i for example enjoy using stuff like overlays to test out new sets and widen my knowledge of how mechanics in the game work, am i ruining someones gameplay with that? i highly doubt it since how would they know and how exactly does it impact their gameplay?

[AH-1 Cobra]

Originally posted by 815|Shouldabeen:

Originally posted by crimsonedge11:

The VAC memes are made by angry, vindictive teenagers who cheated on a VAC protected server, and got flushed. People can read the steam-VAC section replies.

IDK if it still happens because I haven't played counterstrike since source, but they used to get a lot of false-positive bans. I was banned from CS source (VAC ban) at one point when I have never cheated/exploited/glitched in an online game. At the time, I was pretty good at the game even, and took pride in it. Not saying I was a pro or anything, but was good in PUG matches.

I don't play CSGO anymore, but I played it for years, and never had an issue. No false positives.

I wasn't super good at the game, but I was definitely above average. I don't really have the twitch reflexes I used to anymore, after getting carpel tunnel surgery done on both my writs, my reaction/response time took a hit. So, it's safe to say I'd suck at competitive shooters if I tried to play them now, so I don't.

[815|Shouldabeen]

Originally posted by crimsonedge11:

CSGO

Originally posted by 815|Shouldabeen:

CS source .

This was probably 5+ years before GO even was thought about...

[vaanomega]

Originally posted by 815|Shouldabeen:

Originally posted by vaanomega:

Are cheater than common in MH Rise ? On MH World PC, i only saw two cheaters in hundreds of hunts

That depends on your definition of cheating, While many players (including myself) play the game unmodded, there are a lot of people that run mods, some of which definitely give you information or impact gameplay in a meaningful way that could be construed as cheating.

I don't considere edited charms or generated legal items as a banable offense, because it's almost impossible to tell if they are cheating, for me, they just skipping yhe grind and nothing more, but if the do impossible damage or something like that, it's what i call "real cheat" and now i cosidere it as a banable offense, but my point was that in World, i only saw two of what i call "real cheaters", are there more blatant cheaters in Rise ?

[アンジェル]

There is one thing I have wondered for a while ~ maybe one of the mod users can give a reliable answer ~ does actually a mod exist which auto-kick and block players which are seemingly cheating? Like detecting using equipment with impossible values, that is ~ not the kind of layered armour all harmless modding thing.