Stupid Question about my CPU & Monster Hunter Rise

[Sandiramon]

So......I downloaded the demo and try to run it, but I get supreme framerate issues and can't even see the people.

Now, this isn't a complaint about the game, mainly because I don't think my CPU is good enough to run it anyway.

CPU: Intel Core I5-2320 (3.0Ghz)
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 760
Ram: 8GB

My main question is can I buy a new graphics card to maybe run it, or do I need a whole new computer now?

(My computer is pushing on 9 years old)

Thanks for any assistance.

[General Jelly Jiggler]

I'd suggest just biting the bullet and upgrading the whole rig if possible, that CPU would just bottleneck any newer GPU.

I'd suggest something with a current gen Intel i5 or AMD Ryzen 5 processor, and I'd strongly recommend something with at least a 2060 card in it. A prebuilt would set you back around 1000 to 1300 dollars, and you might be able to get better deals if you just build it yourself. It's expensive, but it's an upgrade that will last you a good long while. Hope that helps ya a bit.

[kbro]

Do you need a whole computer? Up to you. Is your CPU weak? Yes. Is your CPU too weak for this game? Probably. Your graphics card is fine though, you should be able to run this game easily with that. From your profile it seems like most of your most-played games aren't very graphically demanding, If I were you I would upgrade my motherboard, CPU and buy some DDR4 RAM while I wait for a good deal on a graphics card(if you need it). To be honest, I don't think you need a new GPU. If you have to ask, the answer is no.

Your CPU has worse single-core performance than the minimum intel CPU recommended: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i3-4130-vs-AMD-FX-6100-Six-Core-vs-Intel-i5-2320-vs-Intel-i5-3470/2015vs257vs790vs822

[Sandiramon]

Originally posted by jeff:

Do you need a whole computer? Up to you. Is your CPU weak? Yes. Is your CPU too weak for this game? Probably. Your graphics card is fine though, you should be able to run this game easily with that. From your profile it seems like most of your most-played games aren't very graphically demanding, If I were you I would upgrade my motherboard, CPU and buy some DDR4 RAM while I wait for a good deal on a graphics card(if you need it). To be honest, I don't think you need a new GPU. If you have to ask, the answer is no.

Your CPU has worse single-core performance than the minimum intel CPU recommended: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i3-4130-vs-AMD-FX-6100-Six-Core-vs-Intel-i5-2320-vs-Intel-i5-3470/2015vs257vs790vs822

That's what I wanted to hear.
So it IS possible to just upgrade my motherboard & CPU without buying a whole new one?
I'm very interested in that.

[elephant]

I would highly recommend you to upgrade your GPU and CPU, which means changing your motherboard to a newer one to suit the new CPU. You can look for AMD motherboards if you are looking for future upgrades (although AMD may release AM5 socket CPUs soon), or you can go for Intel CPUs such as the future 12th generation CPU depending on price. For GPU, if you really want to play this game, you must upgrade your GPU that fully supports DirectX 12 as your GPU does not, hence it cannot run the game.

[EDIT] Fully supporting DirectX 12 means having a feature level of at least 12_0 on your GPU, your GPU only supports up to 11_0

[Sandiramon]

Yeah, I was afraid of that.
The next computer upgrade I was told would be somewhere in the $1300 to $1500 price range.

Buy the time I'm ready to pay for that, It will easily be the year 2023 with a new Monster Hunter game release. LOL

(I'm only slightly upset because Monster Hunter Stories 2: Wings of Ruin runs perfectly fine on my CPU and the specs says it requires more than what's listed for Monster Hunter Rise.)

[The Rizzler]

Originally posted by Sandiramon:

Yeah, I was afraid of that.
The next computer upgrade I was told would be somewhere in the $1300 to $1500 price range.

Buy the time I'm ready to pay for that, It will easily be the year 2023 with a new Monster Hunter game release. LOL

(I'm only slightly upset because Monster Hunter Stories 2: Wings of Ruin runs perfectly fine on my CPU and the specs says it requires more than what's listed for Monster Hunter Rise.)

Well system requirements are more "guidelines"really

[PunCrathod]

Originally posted by Spooky Jelly Jiggler:

that CPU would just bottleneck any newer GPU.

That is not how computers work. Any CPU will bottleneck any GPU and vice versa. It all depends on the workload. Some games take more CPU and some games take more GPU. Get crysis remastered in 8k resolution and even a gtx 3090 will bottleneck a core 2 duo. Or factorio 10k science per minute base and even a 128 core 4ghz amd epyc will bottleneck a gtx 740.

I have a first gen i-7 950 and a gtx1060 and get 60+fps in both pc monsterhunters. I have lots of games where the GPU is the bottleneck even with this 10+ years old CPU. I hate it when people claim a CPU or GPU will bottleneck the other without any context. It is complete nonsense unless you specify the workload. If you want to make such a claim you better provide some benchmarks to illustrate your argument.

@OP just get a new GPU if you can get one for cheap. Your CPU is about the same speed as mine and I can run rise at 60fps no problem.

[Zarvera]

Originally posted by Sandiramon:

Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 760

This is the part that fails you. It doesn't works for my MSI 760 Gaming either.
Even though it was supposed to be targeting DX11 if i remember AsteriskAmpersands tweet correctly, it seems to either have that capability disabled or scooped out of PC release entirely for some reason.

[kbro]

Originally posted by Zarvera:

Originally posted by Sandiramon:

Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 760

This is the part that fails you. It doesn't works for my MSI 760 Gaming either.
Even though it was supposed to be targeting DX11 if i remember AsteriskAmpersands tweet correctly, it seems to either have that capability disabled or scooped out of PC release entirely for some reason.

Have you tried something like DXVK? You can get it running on Windows but it is meant for linux. You can look up MHRise linux videos if you don't know how.

[Zarvera]

Originally posted by jeff:

Have you tried something like DXVK? You can get it running on Windows but it is meant for linux. You can look up MHRise linux videos if you don't know how.

I haven't. There's a thread about it, and it seems no one with a Kepler card had any success with DXVK either, so i didn't try. Don't see why it would magically work for me specifically.

[General Jelly Jiggler]

Originally posted by PunCrathod:

Originally posted by Spooky Jelly Jiggler:

that CPU would just bottleneck any newer GPU.

That is not how computers work. Any CPU will bottleneck any GPU and vice versa. It all depends on the workload. Some games take more CPU and some games take more GPU. Get crysis remastered in 8k resolution and even a gtx 3090 will bottleneck a core 2 duo. Or factorio 10k science per minute base and even a 128 core 4ghz amd epyc will bottleneck a gtx 740.

I have a first gen i-7 950 and a gtx1060 and get 60+fps in both pc monsterhunters. I have lots of games where the GPU is the bottleneck even with this 10+ years old CPU. I hate it when people claim a CPU or GPU will bottleneck the other without any context. It is complete nonsense unless you specify the workload. If you want to make such a claim you better provide some benchmarks to illustrate your argument.

@OP just get a new GPU if you can get one for cheap. Your CPU is about the same speed as mine and I can run rise at 60fps no problem.

k bud.

[The Rizzler]

Originally posted by PunCrathod:

Originally posted by Spooky Jelly Jiggler:

that CPU would just bottleneck any newer GPU.

That is not how computers work. Any CPU will bottleneck any GPU and vice versa. It all depends on the workload. Some games take more CPU and some games take more GPU. Get crysis remastered in 8k resolution and even a gtx 3090 will bottleneck a core 2 duo. Or factorio 10k science per minute base and even a 128 core 4ghz amd epyc will bottleneck a gtx 740.

I have a first gen i-7 950 and a gtx1060 and get 60+fps in both pc monsterhunters. I have lots of games where the GPU is the bottleneck even with this 10+ years old CPU. I hate it when people claim a CPU or GPU will bottleneck the other without any context. It is complete nonsense unless you specify the workload. If you want to make such a claim you better provide some benchmarks to illustrate your argument.

@OP just get a new GPU if you can get one for cheap. Your CPU is about the same speed as mine and I can run rise at 60fps no problem.

noooo nooooo noooooooooooo

[Mack]

A GTX1060 6GB would be more than good enough for Rise, which will serve you well in all your other games at 1080p. I wouldn't spend much more on all your other components, which will have much less gain for the GPU you have, and possibly require you to muck around with drivers and other issues, if not having to reinstall your operating system.

On one machine of mine, I have an x5670 (OC to 4GHz though, so comparisons might be somewhat off) and a GTX 1060, and it runs Rise at 60fps+ basically all the time at 1440p. I haven't quite done any detailed benchmarks, but if it dips below, I haven't noticed it, even with 4 players on Mizu/Magna going ham.

[Sandiramon]

Soooo....will the GTX 1060 3GB be good enough even if I'm only running it at 720p?
I usually only do games at 720p to save or reduce power.

(Also, why is this card hard to find new now? Is it because of the chip shortage?)

[Seamus]

Probably hard to find because the 3gb 1060 never should have been released.