Is there something wrong with this game?

[Seagal]

Besides the fact that it has Denuvo, is there something else that's wrong with this game? I ask because it's ridiculously low on the top sellers list for an RPG title that's a week old and from Square Enix.

I never heard of this game before, (I don't keep up with games anymore, and usually discover them when they're available for sale) but noticed it when looking at the latest Square Enix releases, and it looked really pretty cool. I would have bought this plus FF4 PR if it didn't have Denuvo, but I went with the entire FF PR bundle instead.

I know Tales of Arise just came out, which I did buy the Ultimate Edition of, so maybe that took away a lot of the potential sales for this game? The Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters are also outselling this badly, and you could buy that package for a while now, so that's a little surprising. Neither Tales of Arise or the Pixel Remasters have Denuvo, so that could be another bump for those titles getting more support. No idea.

Just really kind of curious if the game is good and worth keeping an eye on (wishlist) for a purchase if and when Denuvo is removed? It looked really good to me, but I don't know enough about it. The sales don't appear to be good either, which could suggest issues with it.

[Stormy Dawn]

The Bravely series isn't all that well known, especially amongst non-Nintendo gamers. It's a niche series inside of an already niche genre.

That and releasing Bravely Default II wasn't really the wisest decision for a Steam release. Most casual gamers aren't going to be aware of the fact that Bravely Default II is it's own game in the series that you can start from. I imagine a lot of people who were tentatively interested in the game decided to see if there was a Bravely Default I on Steam, only to be confused and turned away by the fact that there isn't.

And certainly bigger titles like Tales of Arise and FFIVPR coming out around the same time certainly did the game no favors either.

[Respwner]

Most of those that wanted the game have probably already bought it for Switch, since its been out for a while.

Edit:
I had no issues at least, but Ive played the earlier entries in the series for 3DS, so I knew pretty much what to expect. The port itself runs smooth, had no problems from start to end.

Story is mediocre imo, but I bought it for the combat and job-system tbh.

Expect about 60-100 hours worth of content depending on how much you enjoy it.

[Seagal]

Originally posted by Tsurayu:

The Bravely series isn't all that well known, especially amongst non-Nintendo gamers. It's a niche series inside of an already niche genre.

That and releasing Bravely Default II wasn't really the wisest decision for a Steam release. Most casual gamers aren't going to be aware of the fact that Bravely Default II is it's own game in the series that you can start from. I imagine a lot of people who were tentatively interested in the game decided to see if there was a Bravely Default I on Steam, only to be confused and turned away by the fact that there isn't.

And certainly bigger titles like Tales of Arise and FFIVPR coming out around the same time certainly did the game no favors either.

Ah, so it's a Nintendo game that released on PC. Had no idea, but that makes it a little more interesting to me, since I only have a PC.

Can I assume that you're enjoying the title and would recommend it then? I thought it looked really good, and if it's completely standalone I'll add it to my wishlist for the time being. I won't get it until Denuvo is removed, but I'll definitely check in on it every month or so to see if it has or not.

Appreciate your perspective on the matter, and for the information about the game.

[Stormy Dawn]

Originally posted by Seagal:

Can I assume that you're enjoying the title and would recommend it then?

I haven't gotten around to playing this one yet myself.

However, I have played Bravely Default and Bravely Second on the 3DS (the first game and it's direct sequel) and enjoyed them immensely. So I have no reason to doubt I'll enjoy this game as well.

If you are fan of games with heavy class/job customization in the vein of Final Fantasy V, then you'll enjoy the Bravely games.

[Sakhari]

There's nothing catastrophically wrong with it. It's just a wholly 'ok' class-based JRPG that, as noted, was nonchalantly dumped on Steam a while after the Switch release with very little fanfare.

Honestly, in my view, it's not a game that has anything particularly interesting or memorable going for it but if you just want a new JRPG playground in which to grind out some jobs, play around with class combos, and see how stupidly overpowered you can be after the challenge effectively snaps in half after chapter 1, it's perfectly adequate for that.

Not much else to say about it, really. At the end of the day, it's just a comfortable, predictable, throwback Final Fantasy-esque experience.

[Seagal]

Originally posted by Tsurayu:

I haven't gotten around to playing this one yet myself.

However, I have played Bravely Default and Bravely Second on the 3DS (the first game and it's direct sequel) and enjoyed them immensely. So I have no reason to doubt I'll enjoy this game as well.

If you are fan of games with heavy class/job customization in the vein of Final Fantasy V, then you'll enjoy the Bravely games.

Sounds good. Thanks again for the info and your perspective. I'll definitely keep an eye on this moving forward.

Originally posted by Sakhari:

There's nothing catastrophically 'wrong' with it. It's just a wholly 'ok' class-based JRPG that, as noted, was nonchalantly dumped on Steam a while after the switch release with very little fanfare.

Honestly, in my view, it's not a game that has anything particularly interesting or memorable going for it but if you just want a new JRPG playground to in which to grind out some jobs play around with class combos, and see how stupidly overpowered you can be after the challenge effectively snaps in half after chapter 1, it's comfortable and perfectly adequate for that.

Not much else to say about it, really.

Appreciate you sharing your take. I can definitely get into, and enjoy something like that.

[Emerald Lance]

Some people are upset about the fact that today's Final Fantasy games are very different from what they used to be, and wish Square made more classic FF games. This game is basically Square's answer to that. So if you love FF3 or FF5 and want more of that, then this is more of that.

[Felipe]

Originally posted by Seagal:

I never heard of this game before

That is mostly the reason, SE only markets his big boy AAA releases. The Nintendo version got some marketing by Nintendo but the PC version almost got shadow dropped

[Jolly]

Originally posted by Seagal:

Besides the fact that it has Denuvo, is there something else that's wrong with this game? I ask because it's ridiculously low on the top sellers list for an RPG title that's a week old and from Square Enix.

Are you an investor? Otherwise why care how sales are doing?

As a "PC Master Race" kind of guy, the thought of paying AAA PC prices for a Switch game is nauseating, even if Switch games easily go for that (or more at times). Because the very best of Switch is still roughly on par with Grandma's 20 year old virus laiden laptop. Just because Nintendo has convinced a lot of people to pay premium prices for less, doesn't mean PC Master Race has to approve or accept it.

So the pricing, even though the argument is irrational, is a factor. Irrational because they're not going to sell the flippin game for less on PC than they do on Switch. Deal.

The Denovo thing is not a factor to me. It's hysterics. It's an excuse for thieves to pirate. Anybody with a PC they SHOULD have to run premium games, and running the PC itself cleanly and legally, would never notice it if it wasn't for forum whiners (and pirates).

Originally posted by Felipe:

Originally posted by Seagal:

I never heard of this game before

That is mostly the reason, SE only markets his big boy AAA releases. The Nintendo version got some marketing by Nintendo but the PC version almost got shadow dropped

Definitely a factor for me - never heard of it til I saw it on Steam and personally I find the name "Bravely Default" to be really....bleh/dumb/wtf? Maybe not dumb but it's meaningless and doesn't sound inviting. I almost overlooked this game thinking it was yet another indie cheese/english not supported/hentai trash kind of thing.

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I bought it despite being put off by the price at first. It's a niche genre and it's not like actual "PC developers" make games like this for us, and it's amazing for a relatively recent Nintendo game to came to PC.

So even though in many ways I think this game is overpriced those factors and the fact that the game has impeccable quality and presentation make me ok with the purchase. I mean, it's noticeable - the game is incredibly well done and runs smooth as silky butter. Sometimes the "puppets" remind me of Andromeda but otherwise the graphics look excellent and as with everything else, are incredibly well done. And most importantly, the game is a lot of fun thus far 4 hours in.

[adobe slabs]

Main thing wrong with it is the price. It's just not a very impressive game so the current asking price is fairly ridiculous.

[Seagal]

Originally posted by adobe slabs:

Main thing wrong with it is the price. It's just not a very impressive game so the current asking price is fairly ridiculous.

In what ways isn't it very impressive? It seems like it has a good score on metacritic (not that that matters much), and the user reviews are good.

Is it partly because it's a Switch game or something, and the graphics aren't "AAA"? I looked at the Switch release date and the game is only like 7 months old. That's still okay to be priced at $60 for a Nintendo game that's new to PC, at least in my opinion. Where do you think it should have been priced at?

I'm trying not to read too much up on it, since I'm in the middle of Tales of Arise, and I doubt this game is going to meet my purchase requirements for a while at least (if at all), but from what people have mentioned in regards to the job system, combat, and the grinding I feel like this would be right up my alley.

[Stormy Dawn]

Too many people think a game has to have cutting-edge graphics running on UE4 or something to justify it being $60.

Bottom line is there is nothing inherently wrong with the price. If you are willing to pay for it, do it; if not then don't. It really can be that simple. But so many won't let it be.

[Melodia]

Originally posted by Tsurayu:

Too many people think a game has to have cutting-edge graphics running on UE4 or something to justify it being $60.

I mean, the game DOES run on UE4.

[Stormy Dawn]

Originally posted by Melodia:

Originally posted by Tsurayu:

Too many people think a game has to have cutting-edge graphics running on UE4 or something to justify it being $60.

I mean, the game DOES run on UE4.

Haha. Fair. Perhaps not the best example to try to illustrate my point. You got me there. XD

[omega]

Originally posted by Jolly:

As a "PC Master Race" kind of guy, the thought of paying AAA PC prices for a Switch game is nauseating, even if Switch games easily go for that (or more at times). Because the very best of Switch is still roughly on par with Grandma's 20 year old virus laiden laptop.
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So even though in many ways I think this game is overpriced those factors and the fact that the game has impeccable quality and presentation make me ok with the purchase. I mean, it's noticeable - the game is incredibly well done and runs smooth as silky butter. Sometimes the "puppets" remind me of Andromeda but otherwise the graphics look excellent and as with everything else, are incredibly well done. And most importantly, the game is a lot of fun thus far 4 hours in.

A game should not need to utilize the full power of PC hardware to be considered a good game on PC IMO.

Originally posted by Jolly:

Definitely a factor for me - never heard of it til I saw it on Steam and personally I find the name "Bravely Default" to be really....bleh/dumb/wtf? Maybe not dumb but it's meaningless and doesn't sound inviting. I almost overlooked this game thinking it was yet another indie cheese/english not supported/hentai trash kind of thing.

The name being "inviting" is a matter of taste, but it's a direct reference to its main combat mechanics of Brave and Default. And while I haven't played enough of BD2 to confirm this, the titles of "Bravely Default: Where the Fairy flies" and "Bravely Second: End Layer" also relate to events in their respective stories, so I'm looking forward to BD2 doing something similar.