Rogue
Saybot Oct 23, 2020 @ 2:57am
Nethack
Rogue is a cute little game, but I'd recommend playing Nethack instead. It's like Rogue (roguelike!) but more polished, more complex, overall just a better game and it's free.
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"MONSA ZOO!" is the best part of any roguelike that has one.
hunvagy2 Oct 29, 2020 @ 8:00am 
Originally posted by graspee AKA pango:
Originally posted by Saybot:
Nethack Legacy seems a little morally dubious. The dev team of the original Nethack are giving away the game and the source code for free and someone made this "remaster" and is making money with it.

Yeah and it's the same deal with Vulture for Nethack on steam except vulture (apt name really) took both nethack and the isometric interface "Falcon's Eye" and put it on steam.

You do know that Vulture is Falcon's Eye, yes?

"The level of inactivity between 2001 and 2005 prompted Clive Crous to fork Falcon's Eye to create Vulture's Eye and Vulture's Claw, which have significant improvements on the original. The development happened on bitbucket, a switch from the previous repository Sourceforge. The game was ported to several platforms, for instance the OpenPandora handheld.

Later this development branch was just called Vulture and is under continued development (as of February 2017)."
Hazen Oct 29, 2020 @ 8:29am 
^_^ what he/she said.
SHADOWELITE7 Oct 29, 2020 @ 10:19am 
Imagine the NetHack Dev team putting NetHack on steam as a way to support the game

I would definitely buy it vs the variants (Vulture and Legacy)
SHADOWELITE7 Oct 29, 2020 @ 10:21am 
Originally posted by Arucard:
And requires you to eat roughly 15 times a day. That was my biggest issue in Nethack, but also why can't you play both? They aren't exactly mutually exclusive...

BTW, a lot of the classic rogue-likes now have a paid version on Steam, including ADOM, TOME, and NETHACK.

The paid versions of Nethack on steam aren't really from the original Developers

they are from different studios that follow the license by making their NetHack clone (Variant) open source and putting it out on steam
on the other hand, the studio earns money but the original developers don't get it.

I do think Vulture and Legacy are cool but I would like to see the NetHack on steam
Last edited by SHADOWELITE7; Oct 29, 2020 @ 10:22am
Originally posted by hunvagy2:
Originally posted by graspee AKA pango:

Yeah and it's the same deal with Vulture for Nethack on steam except vulture (apt name really) took both nethack and the isometric interface "Falcon's Eye" and put it on steam.

You do know that Vulture is Falcon's Eye, yes?

"The level of inactivity between 2001 and 2005 prompted Clive Crous to fork Falcon's Eye to create Vulture's Eye and Vulture's Claw, which have significant improvements on the original. The development happened on bitbucket, a switch from the previous repository Sourceforge. The game was ported to several platforms, for instance the OpenPandora handheld.

Later this development branch was just called Vulture and is under continued development (as of February 2017)."

Yes I know Vulture is Falcon's Eye. Of course I know that. That's what I said they took nethack AND THE ISOMETRIC INTERFACE FALCON'S EYE and put it on steam. Vulture does not change falcon's eye in any way as far as i can tell.
ACID GRIND Nov 1, 2020 @ 7:33am 
if you want an alternate to rogue, and find the need for spoilers in order to get anywhere in nethack unsavory, I would recommend Brogue. It's heavily inspired by rogue but has a nice clean UI beautiful ascii graphics and all important info is right there in plain sight. if ascii isn't your thing there is a community fork of the game that has an oryx tile set option. Did I mention it's free? and the community edition can be played on a browser with no downloads?(tho for me there is too much input lag so be aware)
hunvagy2 Nov 6, 2020 @ 3:40pm 
Originally posted by graspee AKA pango:
Originally posted by hunvagy2:

You do know that Vulture is Falcon's Eye, yes?

"The level of inactivity between 2001 and 2005 prompted Clive Crous to fork Falcon's Eye to create Vulture's Eye and Vulture's Claw, which have significant improvements on the original. The development happened on bitbucket, a switch from the previous repository Sourceforge. The game was ported to several platforms, for instance the OpenPandora handheld.

Later this development branch was just called Vulture and is under continued development (as of February 2017)."

Yes I know Vulture is Falcon's Eye. Of course I know that. That's what I said they took nethack AND THE ISOMETRIC INTERFACE FALCON'S EYE and put it on steam. Vulture does not change falcon's eye in any way as far as i can tell.

Yes, they took their own fork of Falcon's eye and put it on steam. Doesn't change Falcon's Eye? You mean aside from the fact that it probably runs a completely different build of nethack and supports it? Or do you think Vulture just magically adapts to every change that happened in the last 19 years? I'm pretty sure that's the reason the 3.6.x is still just a beta feature and will never get completed, they didn't add anything at all. From what I can tell this is not just a bmp file like tilesets are, but has to integrate on top of nethack, so there is work involved with it. And surprise, people like to get paid for work they do.

But hey, get your pitchforks out, I'm sure it will change the world.
Run a diff tool on the source for falcoln's eye and vulture and then come back. I have.
Sergeant Skyhigh Dec 23, 2020 @ 10:39am 
nethack, angband, even dwarven fortress, there is also stuff like caves of qud on steam but my favourite is Moria, still play it.
NineCities Jun 20, 2022 @ 4:02pm 
in the 80s this was the shiznatz
bradclark1 Sep 20, 2022 @ 9:47pm 
Originally posted by 7 Card Stud:
nethack, angband, even dwarven fortress, there is also stuff like caves of qud on steam but my favourite is Moria, still play it.
Love Moria. You can even last a while
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