Why now? How much is it?

[TheQuestion]

Do we know why they released it now instead of much earlier? surely the epicgames timed bs ran out a long time ago for the greedy devs.

How much is it?

[Bankai9212]

You'd have to ask via x or discord, I can only imagine that it probably didn't do all that well to warrant any marketing for the steam release. Price wise, you can always check the store but I think its 20 bucks there could be a launch sale but we currently don't know.

[DragynDance]

Don't forget that since it's always online, it will also require a connection to epic online services while you're playing.

[Bankai9212]

Pretty sure you can play offline, that’s just for the pvp coop, same with how dark souls works. Unless omitted from the store page nothing states you need to have the epic launcher. Which I assume is needed for said services.

[DragynDance]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Pretty sure you can play offline, that’s just for the pvp coop, same with how dark souls works.

Still installs it, and unless you pull your cable, it will be transmitting data.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by DragynDance:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Pretty sure you can play offline, that’s just for the pvp coop, same with how dark souls works.

Still installs it, and unless you pull your cable, it will be transmitting data.

I updated my comment the store doesn’t state that epic services or whatnot is required to play online. Does that mean PlayStation is also using the services?

[DragynDance]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Originally posted by DragynDance:

Still installs it, and unless you pull your cable, it will be transmitting data.

I updated my comment the store doesn’t state that epic services or whatnot is required to play online. Does that mean PlayStation is also using the services?

IT is crossplay, so yes, it would. And the stores never say they're using it, because they don't have to and they know people don't like it. To check if games use eos, you can check here:
https://steamdb.info/tech/SDK/EpicOnlineServices/
But it won't for games that haven't uploaded to the database yet, obviously.
Tim requires all games that are on his store to use EoS, it's part of the agreement. Some games let you turn it off, like Risk of Rain 2 for example. So there's a chance these devs might let you do so. Most of the time you can just firewall the service and it won't affect the game. Usually. Some devs implement eos so thoroughly into their game that firewalling it breaks it entirely, for example Remnant 1 won't even launch if you have it firewalled now, Total War DLC won't acknowledge that you own it anymore if EoS is firewalled because for some reason it verifies ownership through the epic store instead of steam now.

[Bankai9212]

Having cross play doesn’t inherently mean anything. But like I said some omit the information before launch. Only game I can think of that’s forced at this point is rocket league and fall guys since epic owns them now.

[DragynDance]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Having cross play doesn’t inherently mean anything. But like I said some omit the information before launch. Only game I can think of that’s forced at this point is rocket league and fall guys since epic owns them now.

Having cross play, if the epic games store is one of the platforms, DOES mean EoS. It is forced, Tim won't let you be on his store or crossplay with it at all without EoS. What does matter is whether or not you will have the option to toggle it off, like risk of rain or world war z.

[Bankai9212]

You have evidence for risk of rain 2 and world war z?

[DragynDance]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

You have evidence for risk of rain 2 and world war z?

Evidence of what? I own and play both games.

[N0o*Sox*]

Risk of rain 2 does not force you to install epic games online services. The only thing that is related with epic games is if you want to link your epic games account to be able to play with epic games users.

[Mikoto]

Originally posted by DragynDance:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Having cross play doesn’t inherently mean anything. But like I said some omit the information before launch. Only game I can think of that’s forced at this point is rocket league and fall guys since epic owns them now.

Having cross play, if the epic games store is one of the platforms, DOES mean EoS. It is forced, Tim won't let you be on his store or crossplay with it at all without EoS. What does matter is whether or not you will have the option to toggle it off, like risk of rain or world war z.

Dude everything you have been saying is a straight up lie. Just stop already.

[DragynDance]

Uh? It's not? You can literally checkl the steam database and it's right there in the SDK. Just because you're uneducated doesn't mean things you don't understand are lies.

[Moogle]

oh no it has to install something like every crossplay game does, cry me a river holy.

[Vycer]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Pretty sure you can play offline, that’s just for the pvp coop, same with how dark souls works. Unless omitted from the store page nothing states you need to have the epic launcher. Which I assume is needed for said services.

You've been living below a rock if you think a mere banner in the store will stop them to install a 3rd party software like the Epic Online Services malware.