Connie & Leland Ability Nerfs Incoming

[Cyvanix]

Both of these characters will have an increased cooldown after ability use.
Connie nerf is perfectly understandable but Leland, i have a little doubt if he needs any increased cooldown or not. What about Ana? Her ability is insanely powerful.
Life Saver is definitely not as problematic as Connie's ability.

[SwashBuccaneer]

Originally posted by FluffyFrigginFox.TTV:

Originally posted by SwashBuccaneer:

Leland's ability needs more adjustments than just the CD changed. The other night one shoulder tackled me and the LF when we were chasing him and stunned us both that's just stupid.

Shouldn't of been standing right next to each other that's on you

Yeah totally on me for coming through a gap to head him off. Silly me.

[spitting feathers]

good killers are supposed to be scary not get bullied it makes no sense

[Sad]

Connie uses her ability once, if at all, per game. So a cooldown increase is just a waste of time put into a "fix" when they could be actually fixing real issues.

Lelands cooldown is going to be the same thing. Instead of waiting 3-4 mins to shoulder charge they wait 4-5 mins? mmmkay, that'll change a ton.

I appreciate their open dialog about what they are working on, but to me this one just misses the mark too much. There are too many actual things that need to be touched on as oppose to cd increases that will fundamentally change nothing.

[Opena Googul Saar]

Originally posted by nod for kiss:

Originally posted by Too Many Horses:

I don't think Connie needs a nerf, she is so squishy she pays for her ability that way. Leland just shouldn't be able to stun LF. Ana could use a nerf, I think just make her ability less powerful so she can still die while it's active. I remember 3 killers hitting her while she ducked in front of the exit once for like 5+ seconds. She took a lot of hits and it's just kinda silly.

I think Ana should be the only victim who can survive a max damage chainsaw charge + 2 hits. That should kill any other survivor.

connie isnt really squishy when you put your points into toughness... insta unlocking doors is something that shouldnt happen at any case.

I think it's fine, maybe longer cooldown so it's only used once per game or something. The fact that you have no stamina for 20 seconds or whatever afterwards is pretty good balance in my opinions. If somebody sees you using that ability you're pretty much dead.

[gustavinho13]

Originally posted by Shaelent:

Originally posted by nod for kiss:

connie isnt really squishy when you put your points into toughness... insta unlocking doors is something that shouldnt happen at any case.

I put all my attributes towards toughness and endurance (for my endurance build) though I don't think there's anything you can change with her ability as she's meant to be a tinkerer so I think an increased CD would work just fine to limit the amount of times she can use it in a match. I've been able to use her ability about 2 to 4 times depending on the length of the match and that's with me having her ability CD reduced twice as I have her ability at lvl 3.

I don't think they should increase the CD on ana ability if they're trying to slow the game pace, if the games can last longer without the stupid things of victims escaping in less than 2 min that's fine for me.

[nod for kiss]

Originally posted by Too Many Horses:

Originally posted by nod for kiss:

connie isnt really squishy when you put your points into toughness... insta unlocking doors is something that shouldnt happen at any case.

I think it's fine, maybe longer cooldown so it's only used once per game or something. The fact that you have no stamina for 20 seconds or whatever afterwards is pretty good balance in my opinions. If somebody sees you using that ability you're pretty much dead.

nah man its not fine. 2 times today connie tried to unlock 5th exit in my face with her ability. if she uses choose flight there is no counter. luckily since I was playing sissy I managed to kill her both times but its literally impossible to kill her if you are not leatherface/sissy

[nod for kiss]

Originally posted by Sad:

Connie uses her ability once, if at all, per game. So a cooldown increase is just a waste of time put into a "fix" when they could be actually fixing real issues.

Lelands cooldown is going to be the same thing. Instead of waiting 3-4 mins to shoulder charge they wait 4-5 mins? mmmkay, that'll change a ton.

I appreciate their open dialog about what they are working on, but to me this one just misses the mark too much. There are too many actual things that need to be touched on as oppose to cd increases that will fundamentally change nothing.

leland ability base cooldown = 180s
connie ability base cooldown = 240s

with the changes I believe they are going to add at least 1minute. its good for leland since you will get shoulder checked less but it still doesnt changes much for connie.

[MeisterMody]

Should start on cooldown so Leatherface wont be harrased on the Start and she cant instant escape basement.

[Sad]

Originally posted by MeisterMody.TTV:

Should start on cooldown so Leatherface wont be harrased on the Start and she cant instant escape basement.

I can't imagine there are many Connie's using her ability to get out of basement. Most use her ability to unlock an important door/gate that tends to be patrolled. I.E The back garden screen door on Family House if Cook is present. Or they just use it at the end to stop Bat/Gen and then auto open the exit gate.

Most family players seem to think a 1 minute basement door open has anything to do with Connie. Any Victim with Prof and Stealth to 35+ can open a basement door in 30 seconds or less if they know / spawn near a tool box. Connie has 0 influence on getting out of the basement quickly.

[Señor Lehey]

I mostly only use Connie's ability on the exit gate, if I make it that far. I cant count how many times that strat has saved my ass from the family at the end of the round.