I captured a clip showing Johnny's swing exploit

[Schrödinger]

https://youtu.be/fWK46vzzg3E

The Connie was at full health. She never got a chance to gain distance. If anyone doesn't think this is broken they're probably an abuser themselves.

The streamer wasn't hacking, this is entirely in-game design (currently)

The black squares are for blocking off a language mod the streamer is using.

This is meant to mention an obvious unbalanced thing needs fixing. Please don't argue by bringing up other stuff like "oh something something about victims are OP too so this is only fair!"

Help improve the game by getting such videos to the devs.

[Shotgun Merwin]

You're also missing that he does burn like half his stamina in that very short chase where he spams out all those attacks.

But anyway, Alright, well then leatherface shouldn't be allowed to rev his chainsaw to move faster, that's only supposed to be used for attacking. Teacher said so. In fact, anything increasing your speed should never be used for attacking, only moving, so disable all those scout perks and all that nonsense, devs.

[Asta*]

引用自 Schrödinger：

引用自 Shotgun Merwin：

I mean....if he had the scout perk, he'd catch up to her just as quick. If it was sissy or hitchhiker, they'd close the distance fast too. Not sure what connie's build there is, but she's moving pretty darn slow. Even if he didn't do the slashing thing, he probably had an easy kill anyway.

Weird how survivors are complaining that people finally found something that makes Johnny mildly useful.

Okay, let's ignore Connie's movement for a bit.
Look at Johnny's damage, stamina drain, and speed.
Damage is enough to 4-5 shot a victim depending on Serrated timing.
Stamina drain is almost none. He can keep attacking like 30+ times while running.
Speed is as fast as a dashing victim, if not faster.

Mildly useful?

He can strike exactly 40 times while running
I counted

[Schrödinger]

引用自 Shotgun Merwin：

You're also missing that he does burn like half his stamina in that very short chase where he spams out all those attacks.

But anyway, Alright, well then leatherface shouldn't be allowed to rev his chainsaw to move faster, that's only supposed to be used for attacking. Teacher said so. In fact, anything increasing your speed should never be used for attacking, only moving, so disable all those scout perks and all that nonsense, devs.

There it is again, bringing up another killer's mechanic. And it's not even correct.
Leatherface's dash isn't a spammable attack, by the way. Only the finisher is, and it comes with a price. If you miss, you're punished.
From this response I'm pretty sure there's no point talking to you anymore. Just have fun your way.

[Shaelent]

引用自 Asta*：

引用自 Schrödinger：

Okay, let's ignore Connie's movement for a bit.
Look at Johnny's damage, stamina drain, and speed.
Damage is enough to 4-5 shot a victim depending on Serrated timing.
Stamina drain is almost none. He can keep attacking like 30+ times while running.
Speed is as fast as a dashing victim, if not faster.

Mildly useful?

He can strike exactly 40 times while running
I counted

You're an MVP for doing the calculations good siree, that's scuffed.

[Shaelent]

引用自 Schrödinger：

引用自 Shotgun Merwin：

You're also missing that he does burn like half his stamina in that very short chase where he spams out all those attacks.

But anyway, Alright, well then leatherface shouldn't be allowed to rev his chainsaw to move faster, that's only supposed to be used for attacking. Teacher said so. In fact, anything increasing your speed should never be used for attacking, only moving, so disable all those scout perks and all that nonsense, devs.

There it is again, bringing up another killer's mechanic. And it's not even correct.
Leatherface's dash isn't a spammable attack, by the way. Only the finisher is, and it comes with a price. If you miss, you're punished.
From this response I'm pretty sure there's no point talking to you anymore. Just have fun your way.

Precisely my thoughts, not sure why people try to compare completely different Family members when its clear as day how their mechanics work.

[Milly <3]

How about victims can only sprint when they are being chased? Going by the mental gymnastics?

[AshTray900]

i like to use johnnie, i put that endurance grandpa perk on him and devote all points first to max out endurance. when grandpa activates the perk i can run for a long period of time, i will just chase and swing when close, im not trying to trick the code, but he does swing kind of like that. hes definately a powerhouse if he finds you and you dont have a place to squeeze through that blocks him.

Is that balanced or not, i dont know, depends on everyones perception i guess, but it does appear to be the way he works unless punched or something

[SwashBuccaneer]

引用自 Shotgun Merwin：

You're also missing that he does burn like half his stamina in that very short chase where he spams out all those attacks.

But anyway, Alright, well then leatherface shouldn't be allowed to rev his chainsaw to move faster, that's only supposed to be used for attacking. Teacher said so. In fact, anything increasing your speed should never be used for attacking, only moving, so disable all those scout perks and all that nonsense, devs.

And that's with the stamina reduction on attacks perk on too I believe.

[SwashBuccaneer]

Swing 40 times? He attacked 10 times while sprinting in the video clip and was half stamina already.

[Milly <3]

引用自 SwashBuccaneer：

Swing 40 times? He attacked 10 times while sprinting in the video clip and was half stamina already.

[Shotgun Merwin]

引用自 SwashBuccaneer：

引用自 Shotgun Merwin：

You're also missing that he does burn like half his stamina in that very short chase where he spams out all those attacks.

But anyway, Alright, well then leatherface shouldn't be allowed to rev his chainsaw to move faster, that's only supposed to be used for attacking. Teacher said so. In fact, anything increasing your speed should never be used for attacking, only moving, so disable all those scout perks and all that nonsense, devs.

And that's with the stamina reduction on attacks perk on too I believe.

Oh yeah, forgot all about that. There is a perk that reduces your stamina cost per attack by 50% at lvl 3, but reduces stamina regen by 40%. That could very well be what's going on there, as we don't get to see how quick he regens after.

[AshTray900]

引用自 Shotgun Merwin：

引用自 SwashBuccaneer：

And that's with the stamina reduction on attacks perk on too I believe.

Oh yeah, forgot all about that. There is a perk that reduces your stamina cost per attack by 50% at lvl 3, but reduces stamina regen by 40%. That could very well be what's going on there, as we don't get to see how quick he regens after.

probably, i use all of the good endurance perks and they are at level 3 and the one for endurance on grandpa and then all points to make endurance 50. he can make laps around the entire gas station once gramps is filled up and all he has to do is stop for a second and the meter goes right back up really quick.

the leftover points go to savagery and i just ditch the idea of being able to feed gramps well

[Schrödinger]

https://youtu.be/v-zQ4Pf_EYM
For people who have questions about his actual stamina drain, this clip should be more straight-forward.
Maybe not 40 swings but definitely enough to run across the map while sticking to a dashing victim.

[Alea iacta est]

引用自 Schrödinger：

https://youtu.be/v-zQ4Pf_EYM
For people who have questions about his actual stamina drain, this clip should be more straight-forward.
Maybe not 40 swings but definitely enough to run across the map while sticking to a dashing victim.

looks like scout, serrated, and easily tuckered out and running max endurance. Slow stamina regen but 50% less stamina used per swing, 15% faster move speed but 10% less damage, plus a bleed effect on hit. If its the animation of his swing...you can't really call that an exploit as that's just how its animated/intended. I don't really think this is 'as serious' as you think it is.

[SwashBuccaneer]

So? He swung 11 times in that clip while sprinting and his stamina was even lower than the previous clip of 10 swings and was almost down to the black bar.

"Maybe not 40" lol