The game is victim-sided and flaws in design are showing

[Verona]

At first you'll think the game is family-sided but I assure you it isn't. Developers didn't test anything properly but instead they just pushed out the game with various bugs and many things are overlooked.

After putting some hours in the game I've noticed the following issues:

➥ Victims are speedrunning through the match. You didn't even set up the car battery and somehow they already grabbed the fuse and went upstairs in the family house. Keep in mind people are saying how family house is family-sided, no pun intended.

➥ Connie takes away so much from the family and it's impossible to maintain pressure when this character is alive. I'm really hoping for develepers to give her something else.

➥ Gas Station and Slaugher House? You'll lose against anyone who has the map/game knowledge.

➥ Killers can't even prepare because of this speedrunning. There should be consequnces for waking up the grandpa early! As of right now there's no reason to play stealthy.

Victims in this game are the real deal. Family? Easy to toy with and escape from due to many escape options, all of which don't really require much effort.

[Samswize]

1. Car battery isn't a primary concern on Family House. Unless you're Sissy or Johnny, focus on your character's setup first. Set up traps and put locks on doors. Fuse box is by far the easiest exit so... protect it? It's an easy escape, sure, but they can't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ do it if you patrol it consistently.
2. True.
3. I get more wins on Slaughterhouse than I do on any other map.
4. Grandpa waking up early doesn't mean they're out of the basement. If they don't play stealthy, LF interrupts their progress, which means they're trapped in the basement for longer and Grandpa gets fed.

[Zakaddum]

The funny thing here is that, i always wonder what u mean under WIN or Sided, game does not have win or loose conditions except 4 kills or 4 escapes, and i wanna bet situations where its 4 kills are much more common rather than 4 escapes, in these terms you can say its family sided

[Samswize]

Originally posted by Zakaddum:

The funny thing here is that, i always wonder what u mean under WIN or Sided, game does not have win or loose conditions except 4 kills or 4 escapes, and i wanna bet situations where its 4 kills are much more common rather than 4 escapes, in these terms you can say its family sided

There are way more good family players than there are good victim players. In most matches, more victims will die than escape. Doesn't mean the game isn't victim-sided.

[Zakaddum]

It is, only that matters is statistics, all the rest is just personal feeling or experience which is not showing the real picture

[Mewsha]

Connie is a major problem right now.

I used to wonder why streamers are like "lol making noise at the start doesn't matter lol" but then I realized they're usually playing in squads and have a maxed out Connie. It's crazy how fast she can get everyone out of the basement. She should load into the game with her ability on cooldown at the very least.

Then again they give that advice, and in my solo matches nobody picks Connie, they're loud as hell for no reason, and are surprised when they don't make it out of the basement.

I feel like Slaughterhouse could be be a balanced map if maybe there wasn't the Pressure Valve Exit or something like that.

Also, I feel like door stuns last way too long. I definitely do not ant to see rage mode that was in F13 to come to TCM, but can we get a short cooldown on stuns, like maybe 5 seconds? I feel like it would stop a lot of of the obnoxious players that just want to ruin someone's experience because it's fun for them.

[Zakaddum]

Originally posted by Baby Ghoul:

Connie is a major problem right now.

I used to wonder why streamers are like "lol making noise at the start doesn't matter lol" but then I realized they're usually playing in squads and have a maxed out Connie. It's crazy how fast she can get everyone out of the basement. She should load into the game with her ability on cooldown at the very least.

Then again they give that advice, and in my solo matches nobody picks Connie, they're loud as hell for no reason, and are surprised when they don't make it out of the basement.

I feel like Slaughterhouse could be be a balanced map if maybe there wasn't the Pressure Valve Exit or something like that.

Also, I feel like door stuns last way too long. I definitely do not ant to see rage mode that was in F13 to come to TCM, but can we get a short cooldown on stuns, like maybe 5 seconds? I feel like it would stop a lot of of the obnoxious players that just want to ruin someone's experience because it's fun for them.

And what do you think about one shot leather face? That could kill in first 30 secs easily

[Mewsha]

Originally posted by Zakaddum:

Originally posted by Baby Ghoul:

Connie is a major problem right now.

I used to wonder why streamers are like "lol making noise at the start doesn't matter lol" but then I realized they're usually playing in squads and have a maxed out Connie. It's crazy how fast she can get everyone out of the basement. She should load into the game with her ability on cooldown at the very least.

Then again they give that advice, and in my solo matches nobody picks Connie, they're loud as hell for no reason, and are surprised when they don't make it out of the basement.

I feel like Slaughterhouse could be be a balanced map if maybe there wasn't the Pressure Valve Exit or something like that.

Also, I feel like door stuns last way too long. I definitely do not ant to see rage mode that was in F13 to come to TCM, but can we get a short cooldown on stuns, like maybe 5 seconds? I feel like it would stop a lot of of the obnoxious players that just want to ruin someone's experience because it's fun for them.

And what do you think about one shot leather face? That could kill in first 30 secs easily

I think that vaults and crawl spaces exist for that reason, and you can say he can destroy them, and yes I agree that should be his top priority, because otherwise the victims get away too easily, but then that's longer than 30 seconds isn't it?

[Samswize]

Originally posted by Zakaddum:

Originally posted by Baby Ghoul:

Connie is a major problem right now.

I used to wonder why streamers are like "lol making noise at the start doesn't matter lol" but then I realized they're usually playing in squads and have a maxed out Connie. It's crazy how fast she can get everyone out of the basement. She should load into the game with her ability on cooldown at the very least.

Then again they give that advice, and in my solo matches nobody picks Connie, they're loud as hell for no reason, and are surprised when they don't make it out of the basement.

I feel like Slaughterhouse could be be a balanced map if maybe there wasn't the Pressure Valve Exit or something like that.

Also, I feel like door stuns last way too long. I definitely do not ant to see rage mode that was in F13 to come to TCM, but can we get a short cooldown on stuns, like maybe 5 seconds? I feel like it would stop a lot of of the obnoxious players that just want to ruin someone's experience because it's fun for them.

And what do you think about one shot leather face? That could kill in first 30 secs easily

"Easily" if the victims are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiots and ignore the loud-ass chainsaw giving them a good 10-second headstart to run, hide, or find one of the basement's many infinites.

People who complain about LF have a massive case of skill issue. There's so much counterplay to it.

[Eden Monroe RWR]

can i post something? yeah yeah im DBD veteran, but exactly different ways to escape in the gameplay was what Gamers was asking for, one developer never can make everyone happy i guess

anyway, best regards, good luck on the game and good gaming everyone

[dragon warrior]

agree with every word. playing as a family is now extremely terrible and does not bring any pleasure, you just need to endure what survivors playing in a voice chat team do to you. after 90 seconds they escape. is it really fun to wait in the lobby for 5 minutes to escape in a minute and a half? The developers are just complete idiots. how could a game be released with such balance and such obvious problems? in dbd i always play as survivors, but in this game i wanted to make achievements and play as killers, but the game just doesn't give me that. I have to play 3 hours and lose 3 hours every game because the survivors just speed run. thanks developers for letting players eat ♥♥♥♥.

[Zakaddum]

Originally posted by North:

agree with every word. playing as a family is now extremely terrible and does not bring any pleasure, you just need to endure what survivors playing in a voice chat team do to you. after 90 seconds they escape. is it really fun to wait in the lobby for 5 minutes to escape in a minute and a half? The developers are just complete idiots. how could a game be released with such balance and such obvious problems? in dbd i always play as survivors, but in this game i wanted to make achievements and play as killers, but the game just doesn't give me that. I have to play 3 hours and lose 3 hours every game because the survivors just speed run. thanks developers for letting players eat ♥♥♥♥.

Like it was said before only stupid Family players can allow them to do this. bla bla bla.

What means pleasure for u here? I like gampley no matter what if i die or escape. I will get my fun if i will kill 1 survivor or 3 no matter. If you get pleasure only from flawless victories well then bad news for u

[ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ]

Originally posted by Starurn:

The game is family sided tho? Your the first person i've seen call it victim sided

There have been many threads with "Family Sided" and "Victim Sided" arguments. It's a game about having fun but all I mainly see are people arguing with each other and saying that it's Family/Victim sided.

I guess people can't just play the game for fun, they just turned the game into an escape as fast as you can/camp exits simulator.

Treating this like the next big competitive game... just have fun for f's sake. People just want to argue/fight with each other just for the sake of it.

Originally posted by JillKawaii:

Family? Easy to toy with and escape from due to many escape options, all of which don't really require much effort.

Are you playing solo or with a team? because that can also play a big part. I wish I could see a video of you playing solo and toying with the Family. Show me how easy it really is.

I am sure when the Devs fix the issues and whatever else (whenever they actually decide to fix it) things will be very different.

[HYSE.hunxue]

Damn I feel sad for you cause I always have games where it's never victim sided and I'm a solo player. I only escape like 25%. Well lately almost never cause matchmaking is putting me against high level family. My guess is you guys have been playing against 4man squads?
Like I'm getting gangbanged over here most of the time. But I don't mind. I'm just here for the exp

[ZenithZX]

Originally posted by HYSE.ÆsiR:

Damn I feel sad for you cause I always have games where it's never victim sided and I'm a solo player. I only escape like 25%. Well lately almost never cause matchmaking is putting me against high level family. My guess is you guys have been playing against 4man squads?
Like I'm getting gangbanged over here most of the time. But I don't mind. I'm just here for the exp

You jsut have trash teammates; even in duos or trios, you get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ against survs who know how to play the game

[HYSE.hunxue]

Originally posted by ZenithZX:

Originally posted by HYSE.ÆsiR:

Damn I feel sad for you cause I always have games where it's never victim sided and I'm a solo player. I only escape like 25%. Well lately almost never cause matchmaking is putting me against high level family. My guess is you guys have been playing against 4man squads?
Like I'm getting gangbanged over here most of the time. But I don't mind. I'm just here for the exp

You jsut have trash teammates; even in duos or trios, you get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ against survs who know how to play the game

Same goes the other way around? I rather feel like I'm facing against good killers who actually know what to do.