The Charles Manson reference is very unnecessary

[The Watcher]

(For those who don't get it, apparently Sissy was part of his "cult" and she sings his garbage songs).

We should not romanticize sick uninspired people like him, it is really disturbing and turning me off from the game.

It is not "edgy" "creative" "smart" "innovative" "cool" or anything else.

Imagine being one of his victims and seeing people worshiping him like this. Guy literally has swastika between his eyes. Guy literally is a rapist who raped boys and a murderer.

I know it is "fiction" but they are mixing it with reality, there really is no justification nor anything redeeming about this. It is poor writing too.

Very disappointing, not sure what the devs were thinking?

[Rilgar55]

Origineel geplaatst door Zahramar:

Origineel geplaatst door Rilgar55:

Wait until op realizes johnny is based on richard ramirez and ted bundy

He is not. Just because he is a serial killer, does not make it so.

All of those is baseless talk with 0 concrete evidence. Besides, taking inspiration for fiction is not same as absolute reality.

Also, Johnny is also an original character.

Not baseless , they talked about it in an interview

[Nem]

Origineel geplaatst door Boop da Snoot:

Origineel geplaatst door Zahramar:

Where is the source behind that?

So this kind of moral schizophrenia is something I tried to build into the characters."

- Kim Henkel

This is evident in Drayton. (Cook) Both in the Movie and the game he frequently becomes confused with himself and apologizes in some of his lines before snapping back in the next breath.

Ed Gein is definitely an inspiration here though, he was isolated on a farm for a long period of time.

[The Watcher]

Origineel geplaatst door draganoev:

Man, this is to much. Delete this crap post before you get banned

Why would I get banned? Why should this post get deleted?

It is a normal post, does the truth hurt? Should we allow romanticizing literal rapists and murders with swastika between their eyes?

Why should I not ask for justifications or answers? There are actual real life victims suffering from the crap this uninspired boring waste of oxygen scum human did?

AND AGAIN: Based on reality (INSPIRATION) for F I C T I O N is not same as R E A L I T Y. WTF.

[draganoev]

Origineel geplaatst door Zahramar:

Origineel geplaatst door draganoev:

Man, this is to much. Delete this crap post before you get banned

Why would I get banned? Why should this post get deleted?

It is a normal post, does the truth hurt? Should we allow romanticizing literal rapists and murders with swastika between their eyes?

Why should I not ask for justifications or answers? There are actual real life victims suffering from the crap this uninspired boring waste of oxygen scum human did?

AND AGAIN: Based on reality (INSPIRATION) for F I C T I O N is not same as R E A L I T Y. WTF.

Because your trolling with a real serious topic dude.

This is too much.

[The Watcher]

Origineel geplaatst door draganoev:

Origineel geplaatst door Zahramar:

Why would I get banned? Why should this post get deleted?

It is a normal post, does the truth hurt? Should we allow romanticizing literal rapists and murders with swastika between their eyes?

Why should I not ask for justifications or answers? There are actual real life victims suffering from the crap this uninspired boring waste of oxygen scum human did?

AND AGAIN: Based on reality (INSPIRATION) for F I C T I O N is not same as R E A L I T Y. WTF.

Because your trolling with a real serious topic dude.

This is too much.

I am not trolling. Stop accusing me with your baseless allegations. That is not acceptable. I am serious here, and I am discussing the game and dev decision while everyone is insulting me and defending romanticizing some scum human.

Genuinely curious to know the devs' reasoning.

[Huge Beard Guy]

Origineel geplaatst door Zahramar:

and a murderer

Just FYI, Charles Manson ordered the murders however although Manson committed murderous and violent actions he personally did not physically kill anyone himself (at least that was ever proven). This is well documented.

Origineel geplaatst door Zahramar:

Origineel geplaatst door Aethrys:

Wait until you find out TCM itself is partially based on the crimes of real life killer Ed Gein.

Where is the source behind that?

Tobe Hooper. This is another well known and documented fact. The character of Leatherface (and minor story details) were definitely inspired by Ed Gein. If you're interested in the making of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie I suggest you watch a documentary about it. I've seen a few in my time (and own one as a bonus feature on a collectors edition DVD I bought back in the day which definitely confirms the inspired by Ed Gein thing).

[Boop]

Origineel geplaatst door Zahramar:

AND AGAIN: Based on reality (INSPIRATION) for F I C T I O N is not same as R E A L I T Y. WTF.

Clownfarmbot repeats himself

[Shotgun Merwin]

So...we shouldn't reference sick murderers while we're playing a game about sick murderers?

[The Watcher]

Origineel geplaatst door Mr. Rogers:

The Family are all serial killers and cannibals. Are you 5 years old? Do not understand that a thing existing doesn't make a "glorification"? It's there to add a bit of realism to the family of LITERAL serial killer.

To add a bit of realism seriously dude, this is the justification?

However you put it, it is clearly romanticizing a scumbag and making him more famous. It is not surprising to anyone a lot of psychos did school shootings and crap longing for that fame too.

Let's reference a literal rapist and murderer to add realism.

Origineel geplaatst door Shotgun Merwin:

So...we shouldn't reference sick murderers while we're playing a game about sick murderers?

Correct.

Because there is F I C T I O N and there is R E A L I T Y.

[draganoev]

Origineel geplaatst door Zahramar:

Origineel geplaatst door Mr. Rogers:

The Family are all serial killers and cannibals. Are you 5 years old? Do not understand that a thing existing doesn't make a "glorification"? It's there to add a bit of realism to the family of LITERAL serial killer.

To add a bit of realism seriously dude, this is the justification?

However you put it, it is clearly romanticizing a scumbag and making him more famous. It is not surprising to anyone a lot of psychos did school shootings and crap longing for that fame too.

Let's reference a literal rapist and murderer to add realism.

Origineel geplaatst door Shotgun Merwin:

So...we shouldn't reference sick murderers while we're playing a game about sick murderers?

Correct.

Because there is F I C T I O N and there is R E A L I T Y.

Dude you really need to touch some grass

[HorsePin]

Origineel geplaatst door Zahramar:

(For those who don't get it, apparently Sissy was part of his "cult" and she sings his garbage songs)

You have to stop at "apparently" because how do you know this is true?

I know another "apparently" about Maye Musk (born Maye Haldeman) and how she is "apparently" associated with Manson but doesn't mean to say it's true so therefore your rant is meaningless.

[Shotgun Merwin]

Well, all of the characters in the original movie were based off real individuals. Leatherface has a bunch of serial killers peppered into him, ed Gein notably. Should they not have been allowed to use that insipiration?

The actor who played the hitchhiker based the character off a mentally ill criminal relative of his. But apparently he shouldn't be allowed to do that.

As long as it's all 100% fiction, then it's cool right?

[Huge Beard Guy]

Origineel geplaatst door Zahramar:

Because there is F I C T I O N and there is R E A L I T Y.

Correct and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre - both game and movie - are fiction. The "justification" you ask for in your OP is simple to understand; games and movies as well as many other outlets are art forms which is always inspired by real life. That's all the "justification" that's needed.

[The Watcher]

Origineel geplaatst door Huge Beard Guy:

Origineel geplaatst door Zahramar:

Because there is F I C T I O N and there is R E A L I T Y.

Correct and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre - both game and movie - are fiction. The "justification" you ask for in your OP is simple to understand; games and movies as well as many other outlets are art forms which is always inspired by real life. That's all the "justification" that's needed.

Is Charles Manson fiction?
Is him being romanticized by referencing him in a video game, making him more famous a fiction?

[dragon warrior]

You are playing a game where killers kill their victims and then eat them. The game that was based on the movie. But at the same time you complain about Sissi singing Mason songs? Leave it alone. Excellent voice acting of songs, while I play it I enjoy it. What I can’t say about the gameplay on killers, because there is no balance in the game.