Family House should be reworked

[Zakaddum]

Absolutely stupid and unbalanced map. there are 3 door in the house which can be easily controlled because the house itself is pretty small. 1 more door leads in different spawn option to a useless dead end with only toolbox and btw 1 of the basement exits is also there. Just compare this to slaughterhouse or Gas station where first locked door are separated.

Please also don't tell about gas tank, its outside the house and cant be count as a objective until you will get out of the house. Fuse box is also hard on this map until certain random spawn.

In several cases(objective spawns) it's at least possible to do smth for example when gas tank is spawned in the dead end part of the map however in any other cases we have 3 doors within a meter from each other and second floor which is easily controlled as well.

First of all the dead end yard should be connected with field part of the map not only through house
On the second some objective spawns should be reworked as well.

P.S Yes i know the window option however it's useless until you have a perk at least

[Eric Clapped 'Em]

FYI, window isn't useless at all. Once any victim is outside, that means the family has to go outside and patrol. The only reason the family does well on the Family house is by keeping all the victims IN THE HOUSE. That is much easier to patrol and maintain, whereas the outside is probably the worst of any map. The exists are so far apart outside, that it is almost impossible to stop people from escaping once they are outside.

So, do your team a favor and dive out the window and add pressure onto the family. Why do you think those windows exist? If it wasn't for those windows, the map would actually be broken, but the windows are "free". Also, you know the map ahead of time, so you can plan your perks to help with that accordingly. If you disagree, you are just bad at the game.

[nod for kiss]

引用自 SleddingHedgehogs：

FYI, window isn't useless at all. Once any victim is outside, that means the family has to go outside and patrol. The only reason the family does well on the Family house is by keeping all the victims IN THE HOUSE. That is much easier to patrol and maintain, whereas the outside is probably the worst of any map. The exists are so far apart outside, that it is almost impossible to stop people from escaping once they are outside.

So, do your team a favor and dive out the window and add pressure onto the family. Why do you think those windows exist? If it wasn't for those windows, the map would actually be broken, but the windows are "free". Also, you know the map ahead of time, so you can plan your perks to help with that accordingly. If you disagree, you are just bad at the game.

this. people dont know how much pressure does victim does when they jump out of window. they can go to generator/car battery/valve from there.

[RedPandaDontDie]

never understood why they have all these barriers set up at the family home that made it so hard for the family to move, it would make more sense to have a bigger map like the size of Friday the 13th game, and let player set up the barrier with the killer just breaking it.

[HorsePin]

引用自 Twisted：

I like how all the baby killer mains are freaking out about someone making a post about house being an easy killer map when it's true. The reality is that playing killer is far easier than playing victim but at the highest level of play it's victim sided on maps like slaughterhouse.

But there are far more faceroll killers getting 4ks than there are potato victims escaping. The steam achievements alone show how easy it is to get 100 kills on killer as compared to 100 escapes. It's essentially DBD all over again where these people are going to cry till it's killer sided so they don't have to learn anything.

The best possible fix would be to give killers more points per kill so they can stop freaking out when they dont get 3/4k every game.

The match has to go on as a family to get that amount, The most I pulled from a match was 3700 from LF, that was 4 kills and plus almost every barricade.

[Wahnwitzig]

引用自 Zakaddum：

People usually dont care too much about blood cause leland can ruin it easily with -4 lvls

Not just Leland.

[Shoob]

引用自 Drayton Sawyer：

House is the only balanced map, victims can rush and escape on it and it's manageable for the family unlike gas station and slaughter house with 5 escape methods.

that is just flat out untrue

[Sic Semper Tyrannis]

引用自 skibidi toilet：

Slaughterhouse: 2 free win exits
Gas station: 3 free win exits
Family house: 1 free win exit

Yeah sure thing buddy

You're delusional or just bad

[Keith Fozmire]

Family House is completely RNG dependent, if victims get worst RNG the pressure will spawn outside of the family house and the generator will spawn in the shed next to it.

GG if this happens as the killers can camp all four exits (Leatherface can cover generator + pressure while other two killers can body block battery and fuse)

[Orge Lambart]

so in other words you want it to be an easy escape for victims..

[Hunterelfss]

I just want to mention one addition to this thread.

From all the games I have played, I play majority family. Out of 10 games, I win 90% of the time on family house (4 kills), and I win 80% of the time on gas station.

The only map that is much more balanced, with an approximate 60% win rate, is Slaughter House. That is me playing as a solo family player, with no comms or pre-made group.

As a solo victim survivor on Family map, I have roughly 20% of my games where I escape on Family map, while the other 2 maps I do escape more on as victim, but not massively more.

I like how much of the discussion around these games also revolve around "skill issue". Yet, why am I able to get 90% win rates and 80% win rates on two maps, as a solo family player, with no comms or pre-made. Yet somehow other family players are struggling on those maps, and it is the "victims" that need to get better and not the family players.

Some family players need a reality check at how easy the game is on Family House and Gas Station for family. Gas Station is a very small map, so if you have cook and hitchiker on that map, who knows what to lock and trap, you aren't leaving on Gas Station. The front exit from generator is literally useless, it cannot be used whatsoever if you are a good hitchiker.

[Johnhyrule]

I see some massive Family members on drugs here, jump out the windows it's stealthy you say? Well maybe if there wasn't fking Hitch traps on both sides of the window and there's nothing you can do about the one outside, after which you're then forced into the well (assuming you survive the trap) then Hitch can simply re-arm his trap rinse and repeat. I have to be on the same drugs the Family is on to even try.

The window is now useless because of Hitch, Valve is useless because you can't get outside anyway unless you're lucky and it spawns in the back, we don't talk about generator, thus making the fuse the only logical option in that scenario, and the family knows that too so good luck.

To make matters worse all basement exit are within walking distance of each other, I mean it makes sense, it's all in the same damned house.

EDIT: just played a round as Ana (50 toughness, 40 endurance) against Hitch on Family house, jumped out the window and got snared by the trap outside, almost all my HP from that (prob should've used my ability as I was jumping out but damn that Hitch trap does a lot of damage), used my ability right after to try and reach well and Hitch managed to Kill me, that's a 50 toughness Ana dead for even entertaining the idea of jumping out the window while Hitch exist.

I might have survived if I had a Bone Pick to break free immediately or used my ability right before jumping, but what did I accomplish? Hitch would simply re-arm the trap and back to square one, and this is Ana with what doesn't kill you, no sell, and choose flight we're talking about, that trap is pretty much death for anyone who isn't Ana.

[Infrasound]

window builds :> easy escapes

[Johnhyrule]

引用自 Infrasound：

window builds :> easy escapes

laughs in Hitchhiker, but really what the window perk gonna do against the Hitch trap?

[luie]

Window meta gg ez.

[Vargerd]

the real trick to the window is to not do it alone. When Anna goes out the window, have a teammate or two near the front door so when the family busts out the front door to chase, free exit, expecially if its someone like the cook at the door, he might hit a swing or two, but hes not running anyone down outside more than likely. Bonus points if you manage to hide outside until the heat dies down and then pick the locks from the outside. Obviously you die sometimes, but when it works, its beautiful.