My hot take on dbd vs tcm

[Turtle]

I have 600 hours of dbd mainly as killer, and I started tcm yesterday, you know what, I can't play dbd now, in tcm playing as killer especially when team as well as you use comms is very fun, and it's feels like you're the killer and they need to run from you and make you lost them, as well as survivor side you really don't want killers to see you, you have to hide or use something to make them lost you, from guy who mainly play family/killer role in dbd right now you feel like a joke or pinching bag, in tcm you feel like you're the KILLER(yes stun lock abuses are exist but while everyone in the basement it's not a big deal and when they are out, if you use simple thing that behavior didn't realise to add such as voice comm you can cutch them very easy)
In summary for everyone who don't want to read a text wall, I think that tcm bring a better killer/survivor experience than dbd

[Deus Vult]

I got like 1200 hours in DbD, but barely played in the last 1 year.
That game became a joke.

I enjoy this game much more, I hope it lasts long.

[SPEAKER MAN]

It was fun until videos started going around of how to stun-lock, now its just russian roulette of who will be Bubba and waste 3 minute being used like a human fleshlight by victims.

At this point, whenever I see a survivor infront of me during my bubba cutscene or after, I just leave the game. Not even gonna give them the satisfaction of having XP by stabbing me.

[Ula]

Publicado originalmente por Doom Punk:

DbD isn't as bad as people make it out to be when playing Killer. If you really want to win and have fun chases, then play any A or S tier Killers and your problem is solved. I can play Blight knowing that my skill is what determines if I win or lose. I can't say the same as family in this game when up against experienced victims on comms.

I dislike the path DBD has chosen. The best killers are the one that have the toolkit to make chases as fast as possible because the clock of generators being repaired is ticking.
Or you can play "chess".
Also my favorite killer by far is Hillbilly, but the new (reworked) maps with a ton of junk everywhere and the engravings nerfs really turned me off.

Publicado originalmente por Doom Punk:

Not to mention everywhere you go is an infinite or long ass loop that requires a family member to help or you will never catch them. DbD 2016 infinites anyone?

I guess you're supposed to leave them, or risk to call an ally to kill this victim.

Publicado originalmente por murdernator:

At least in this game there are multiple killers, and survivors aren't rewarded for hiding or looping, because they are always bleeding out. Although this game obviously needs some tweaks, mostly to the survivor side, because even despite all the differences from DBD, the game is absolutely survivor sided, it's just survivors complain because they can't just openly run to the exit and can't make a million mistakes. They don't actually want a challenge, they just want the killers to be limp noodles they can push over.

I don't have a strong feeling yet about a side being generally stronger than the other, most of my games end up with 2 kills 2 escapes. I haven't played family yet, and I only play as solo queue.
Also I think a victim rewards his teamates for looping by keeping at least a killer busy.
My only complain about family is Sissy's on-hit poison that prevents you from using your stamina. She litterally doesn't allow a single mistake.

Publicado originalmente por murdernator:

I can tell when I face a DBD player though, because they try to do all the DBD tricks, which almost always fails. I've had quite a few satisfying kills where someone was abusing a mechanic and got their comeuppance.

It's fairly safe to assume most tcsm players have played dbd at least once.

Publicado originalmente por murdernator:

But the thing that really killed DBD for me was it was host based, so it allows for all tons of manipulations by the host. It was trivial for anyone to essentially download a program and create intentional lag. So you either had a killer that would lag the game to catch survivors, or a survivor blinking around the map.

They changed the game from being peer-to-peer to dedicated servers. The kind of lagswitching you experienced is now gone for good

[nod for kiss]

I stopped playing dbd since TCM came out. last played 18 august. its really refreshing and fun after all that survivor sided dbd.

[Goldtooth™]

Publicado originalmente por Ula:

Publicado originalmente por Smkrrr:

Can we keep DBD out of this forum already? They are 2 different games. Period. No one cares which one you like more.

Yes these are 2 different games, but I think this thread makes a lot of sense if you treat both games as "Horror movie simulator".

Except the other game is not a horror movie simulator, its a circus simulator. Survivors are the one with the power and literally bully even rank 1 killers. Killer gameplay is stressful and you spend more time running around protecting ♥♥♥♥ than you do killing.

When the meta is running back and forth disrupting survivors instead of killing them, its a problem

[Michel Baie]

Publicado originalmente por Aethrys:

This isn't a hot take lol. I don't think anyone would say dbd killer is more enjoyable than tcm family.

It is tho.
Oh sure, you get disgruntled DbD players who have hundred of hours and are sick of it saying otherwise.

But they would praise anything remotely related to DbD just to ♥♥♥♥ on it. For the first few days, maybe weeks of the release.

Then the flaws of the new game's design get more and more difficult to ignore, and soon enough those guys move on.

Same story every time TBH.

[diazepamxx]

I just wish more victims used coms. Especially since crossplay was enabled again my solo Q is silent af and it's frustrating.

[Arthur Morrigan]

Publicado originalmente por Turtle:

from guy who mainly play family/killer role in dbd right now you feel like a joke or pinching bag

Every killer in DBD has an over 50% kill rate at the top 5% MMR. So, no. Killer is not that hard in DBD.

I'm not sure TCM provides a better killer experience than DBD. There's no skill component to playing most of the killers; and most matches just devolve into a miserably boring slog of pacing back and forth between objectives until the victims finally stop hiding.

Playing victim in TCM is a hell of a lot more fun than playing survivor in DBD, though. No slugging, no getting camped on hook, not having to go against dozens of killers that just remove all compelling gameplay with their power, and no holding M1 on generators for minutes on end.

[Arthur Morrigan]

Publicado originalmente por diazepamxx:

I just wish more victims used coms. Especially since crossplay was enabled again my solo Q is silent af and it's frustrating.

People want to chill and play a game without having to put up with obnoxious freaks on the internet. They should've put in a ping system or pre-canned callouts.

[RAT BASTARD]

Killer main here with about 1.6k hours. I play the two games for different reasons, since they have different appeal. I like how in TCM, you're actually a killer that can result in near-to-instant death if you make the wrong step, and it forces the average victim (not the fuse-rushing sweats) to play stealthy which is how I feel an asymmetrical horror game should be played.

I don't like how you have to rely on your teammates though, a lot of the time they don't come through. Not gonna act like I'm some grandmaster at TCM with only a handful of hours, but getting incompetent Cooks/Johnnys/Bubbas just hurts. God help you if one of them DC. I've only ever won a couple of 2v4s.

So nowadays, I like to play DBD when I feel like taking all the credit for killing the four survivors in a game where the odds are arguably stacked against me. The world-building and character designs are pretty sick too

TLDR;

I like TCM Family for teamwork and killer role
DBD for pure schadenfreude