Family sided game?

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Hey, guys
*stunlocks bubba for 4 minutes straight*
I think
*places the fuse that spawns right next to the fuse box and turns it on in a second*
family is a bit
*pressure valve and fuse box escapes open in 50 seconds*
overpowered
*delevels grandpa to 0 from level 4 instantly*
Don't you
*jumps down a well that lands right next to the basement exit*
think?
By the way, I'm holding the game hostage until you come at the exit, so come watch or I'll just sit here for 8 more minutes.
I'm allowed to do this because you're playing as the bad guy.

[TheFinalDude]

Originally posted by Nihil Reich:

huge balancing needed, insanely victim sided game, not even fun playing as victim anymore just running away in a minute.

Assuming you're telling the truth (probably aren't), stop playing "broken build" Connie and challenge yourself. You won't escape in a minute...or at all for that matter lol.

[Nihil Reich]

Originally posted by Stereosaur:

Originally posted by Nihil Reich:

huge balancing needed, insanely victim sided game, not even fun playing as victim anymore just running away in a minute.

Assuming you're telling the truth (probably aren't), stop playing "broken build" Connie and challenge yourself. You won't escape in a minute...or at all for that matter lol.

I don't play connie I play julie or ana, in a minute was a manner of speech, meaning fast and easy. I enjoy the more stealthier play and am forcing myself to play as such, but the optimal way proved itself to be the loud one sadly.

[Absinthe]

Originally posted by 희태윤:

Ppl who said its victim sided never played DBD. This game is Third Person, there's no hiding, even if ur in bushes is so easy to see survivors and spot them.

3 killers vs 4 survivors. unlike 1 killer vs 4 survivors. big difference

max perk and max leather face can kill anyone in 3 auto attacks. 4 if they have endurance up

fully revv chainsaw leatherface kills in 1 hit, + 1 auto if they have more hp

Shut the ♥♥♥♥ up hacker loser.

[TheFinalDude]

Originally posted by Nihil Reich:

Originally posted by Stereosaur:

Assuming you're telling the truth (probably aren't), stop playing "broken build" Connie and challenge yourself. You won't escape in a minute...or at all for that matter lol.

I don't play connie I play julie or ana, in a minute was a manner of speech, meaning fast and easy. I enjoy the more stealthier play and am forcing myself to play as such, but the optimal way proved itself to be the loud one sadly.

I'm calling BS. I've played enough matches to know people out of the basement first are usually the first to die. Stealth wins now. Rushing won in the beta.

[The Professor]

Originally posted by Stereosaur:

Originally posted by Nihil Reich:

I don't play connie I play julie or ana, in a minute was a manner of speech, meaning fast and easy. I enjoy the more stealthier play and am forcing myself to play as such, but the optimal way proved itself to be the loud one sadly.

I'm calling BS. I've played enough matches to know people out of the basement first are usually the first to die. Stealth wins now. Rushing won in the beta.

They all rush out at the same time and as long as they have an escape plan such as a well they will do fine.

[Splurgy]

Originally posted by SleddingHedgehogs:

Yeah, any Victim who says otherwise is just suffering from a skill issue. Don't get me wrong: Family can be strong, but if both teams are near equal skill, Victims win.

lol its not a skill issue. the family can be just as coridinated as the victims, and when they are its family sided still. everything this guy described is a skill issue lol. If grandpa gets stabbed maybe defend him, defend the fuse box, turn the valve off, have sissy stun lock killing people, have cook padlock the correct doors, communicate with your team. If 3 family players are communicating its a killer sided game. Its only victim sided against family who doesnt understand how the game works lol. family has the same skill gap as victim lol

[TheFinalDude]

Originally posted by The Professor:

Originally posted by Stereosaur:

I'm calling BS. I've played enough matches to know people out of the basement first are usually the first to die. Stealth wins now. Rushing won in the beta.

They all rush out at the same time and as long as they have an escape plan such as a well they will do fine.

Yes, how dare victims have an exit strategy from death. They should be locked in place and killed immediately.

....

The well drop takes a damage toll without perks. Family is up to speed on the map and the meta, and will usually be down there to give them a hearty greeting by the time they've gotten up. /dead.

Play better man.

[Nihil Reich]

Originally posted by Splurgy:

Originally posted by SleddingHedgehogs:

Yeah, any Victim who says otherwise is just suffering from a skill issue. Don't get me wrong: Family can be strong, but if both teams are near equal skill, Victims win.

lol its not a skill issue. the family can be just as coridinated as the victims, and when they are its family sided still. everything this guy described is a skill issue lol. If grandpa gets stabbed maybe defend him, defend the fuse box, turn the valve off, have sissy stun lock killing people, have cook padlock the correct doors, communicate with your team. If 3 family players are communicating its a killer sided game. Its only victim sided against family who doesnt understand how the game works lol. family has the same skill gap as victim lol

we have a skill issue victim here, wanting to keep his game victim sided

[Absinthe]

Originally posted by Splurgy:

Originally posted by SleddingHedgehogs:

Yeah, any Victim who says otherwise is just suffering from a skill issue. Don't get me wrong: Family can be strong, but if both teams are near equal skill, Victims win.

lol its not a skill issue. the family can be just as coridinated as the victims, and when they are its family sided still. everything this guy described is a skill issue lol. If grandpa gets stabbed maybe defend him, defend the fuse box, turn the valve off, have sissy stun lock killing people, have cook padlock the correct doors, communicate with your team. If 3 family players are communicating its a killer sided game. Its only victim sided against family who doesnt understand how the game works lol. family has the same skill gap as victim lol

Turn the valve off?
Have you even played family?

The problem is that a lot of people don't have voice chat on.
That doesn't hurt victims as it shows you when valve is opening or basement door is opening as victim, when family members don't communicate it is way harder.
I've had many victim games where no one has said a thing and we all escape.
I've had very few family games where no one has communicated and we kill more than 2. (unless I'm playing LF)

[The Professor]

Originally posted by Stereosaur:

Originally posted by The Professor:

They all rush out at the same time and as long as they have an escape plan such as a well they will do fine.

Yes, how dare victims have an exit strategy from death. They should be locked in place and killed immediately.

....

The well drop takes a damage toll without perks. Family is up to speed on the map and the meta, and will usually be down there to give them a hearty greeting by the time they've gotten up. /dead.

Play better man.

And while two people are chasing that guy to a well so Leatherface can do something about it, maybe, what about the other 3 victims rushing the exits? If you're Hitchhiker on slaughterhouse and you skip blood/traps and just rush straight to where grandpa is, only stopping to lock doors behind you, you're going to have multiple victims up there. The ones you don't chase are going to accomplish a lot while you chase the guy to a well - remember that he has sawable obstacles to keep away for some time and Leatherface is just starting to leave the basement if you're lucky.

[Absinthe]

Honestly, the people that think this game is family sided.
Like you losers say, skill issue.
It's no coincidence 95% of you are dbd survivor mains.

[TheFinalDude]

Originally posted by The Professor:

Originally posted by Stereosaur:

Yes, how dare victims have an exit strategy from death. They should be locked in place and killed immediately.

....

The well drop takes a damage toll without perks. Family is up to speed on the map and the meta, and will usually be down there to give them a hearty greeting by the time they've gotten up. /dead.

Play better man.

And while two people are chasing that guy to a well so Leatherface can do something about it, maybe, what about the other 3 victims rushing the exits? If you're Hitchhiker on slaughterhouse and you skip blood/traps and just rush straight to where grandpa is, only stopping to lock doors behind you, you're going to have multiple victims up there. The ones you don't chase are going to accomplish a lot while you chase the guy to a well - remember that he has sawable obstacles to keep away for some time and Leatherface is just starting to leave the basement if you're lucky.

Ugh. Play smart man. If they're in the basement, they can't escape. Patrol exits, don't get caught up in looking for people to stab.

I had a hitchhiker abandon me down there to do just that. I'm done arguing these what-if scenarios lol. You win some you lose some. Just focus on having fun.

[TheFinalDude]

Originally posted by Zenthe:

Honestly, the people that think this game is family sided.
Like you losers say, skill issue.
It's no coincidence 95% of you are dbd survivor mains.

Game is family sided (and it should be). Victims shouldn't escape so easily. (And they don't.)

I don't understand these arguments at all.

[Gazzza]

Numerous times ive dared to feed grandpa or assist someone in a chase to return to the fusebox open or locks blitz through.
Its just unfun cause you are so incentivised to camp hard. And punished very hard for trying to hunt down anyone not in the immediate area of an objective.

Funny how Johnny is starting to be considered the weaker family members, since he is supposed to excel at hunting down victims and flushing them out of hiding. Yet the moment you leave your post to try do that, your objective will be open in mere moments. Tracking doesnt even matter since anyone with a brain will know to take the nearest gap and just run for it back to the basement and rotate to a different objective.

And its funny how people have caught onto how valuable cook is since his ability excels at buying a bit of time. And helps camp.

Games are just too fast. Its not fun.

My main gripes are,
-Fusebox has no counterplay once opened.
No you cannot "just bodyblock it" victims can slide you aside by sprinting into you.
A hitchhiker trap isnt much good either since they can be disarmed quickly, even without a bone scrap if you have the perk! Just let family manually shut the door if they make it there first.

-Connie being able to delete locks.
No noise ping, her debuff is hardly a downside when she is slipping away into an empty zone. Its not like she is going to pop it with someone right next to her. I find games without her or she dies early tend to last a bit longer and are more interesting. But This is more of an issue with locks being quick in general with proficiency bumped out. Longer locks to make use of those progress save points would extend game length a bit. Once those first set of surface locks are busted the game sways heavily in the victims favour since family have much bigger zones to patrol, and you have more freedom to do valve and fusebox.

Pressure valve is mostly fine, but I think a slow regress in progress when shut off would be better to deal with.

Then obviously door and backstab stun loops need fixing.

Gas station door is absolutely ridiculous and the fact people defend that is shocking. I actually had a game where connie escaped that path but actually kicked off the generator, was probably a flex but I was like, fair play. As it should have been.

I have had plenty of victim games where I slip out and never have any interaction with family. Its not much fun.

Im rambling now but I just adored this game but its gets increasingly frustrating when I feel punished for not hard camping and trying to do other things.
Hit me with your skill issues or whatever, but the more apparent the flaws become, the more unfun its getting and I hate to say that.

[SWAMP IZZO]

Lmao had me in the first half