Johnny is not trash tier

[Enderscen]

I am level 3 johnny main ability and 3 other perks with him, i do a rampage every game, just people don't understand how to play him.

Just check every gate, never go downstair, follow the mark and go outside only if you see track, take high damage and recover and you will see it's a monster.

Level 24 imo, i play him and leatherface i almost always win and kill the enemy team.

You must just check every gate and block all the area where the survivor can go through.

He don't need a buff really, just play better and learn.

[Cheezelog]

Who said that? lol This game is 99% knowledge. Everyone thinking stats make that huge of a difference are fooling themselves. If I can wreck as victim and family at lvl 4 or less stats arent that important in the grand scheme. Knowing what you are doing is the key to this game and you only get that by playing and learning.

[Enderscen]

Stats are important on some character, leatherface don't need really too much point on his base stat but it's always better to have, johnny need this a lot but with high damage 50 and 40 recover it's a monster with the right skill.

[Dans_Tip]

Originally posted by Eliwood (FR):

Stats are important on some character, leatherface don't need really too much point on his base stat but it's always better to have, johnny need this a lot but with high damage 50 and 40 recover it's a monster with the right skill.

True

[Rаndo]

Johnny isn't bad, but he's the worst of the bunch.

Leatherface can do even more damage, go faster, and destroy barriers.
Cook can use locks to incredible effect, has way better blood collection, and way better tracking via his ability.
Rest can go through gaps and crawl for incredible chase potential.

[Enderscen]

Man cook has no recover at all you must spend all your point on recover for making him viable and sorry but his lockpick are too much easy to counter with connie currently.

When no more lockpick he is useless.

At least with johnny i can chase everybody and kill them.

Just never go upstair in the mansion and you find out he is really strong let the hitch hiker or sissy doing that.

Johnny has an ability he can use all the time and when you use it well it's op.

Just stop watching streamer and learn him and you will find he is not that bad.

[Nicoy]

Bubba and Johnny are the strongest, and fastest damage dealers their difference is that Leatherface can but also must destroy all the barricades, holes, and is fast af with his chainsaw revved he kills in 2,3 hits pretty much every time, but also u can't hear ♥♥♥♥ while running with it.
Johnny has tracking which is a good ability especially vs sneaky squads (when Cook's hearing is not that usefull) so he is second best at guarding objectives and punishing Victims after the Bubba. The important thing is that when u pick him you pretty much need someone who is good at blood harvesting, if you don't want to have issues feeding Grandpa.
You don't want to have like full agressive Hitchhiker which has only maxed Savagery, Endurance and perks for that.

[Rаndo]

Originally posted by Eliwood (FR):

Man cook has no recover at all you must spend all your point on recover for making him viable and sorry but his lockpick are too much easy to counter with connie currently.

When no more lockpick he is useless.

At least with johnny i can chase everybody and kill them.

Just never go upstair in the mansion and you find out he is really strong let the hitch hiker or sissy doing that.

Johnny has an ability he can use all the time and when you use it well it's op.

Just stop watching streamer and learn him and you will find he is not that bad.

The point i'm trying to make is that he just does other family's jobs but worse/less optimally, and on top of that he has zero utility unlike everyone else.

Like I said he isn't bad, he's just the worst one out of all of them, also I've gotten him to level 2 so I feel like I already have a good enough grasp on how well he plays.

[Enderscen]

Originally posted by Nicoy:

Bubba and Johnny are the strongest, and fastest damage dealers their difference is that Leatherface can but also must destroy all the barricades, holes, and is fast af with his chainsaw revved he kills in 2,3 hits pretty much every time, but also u can't hear ♥♥♥♥ while running with it. Johnny has tracking which is a good ability especially vs sneaky squads (when Cook's hearing is not that usefull) so he is second best at guarding objectives and punishing Victims after Bubba. The important thing is that when pick him you pretty much need someone who is good at blood harvesting. If you don't want to have issues feeding Grandpa u don't want to have like full agressive Hitchhiker in your team too. And which has only maxed Savagery and Endurance and perks for that.

Good point of view, but feeding grandpa is not necessary if you can rush the victim, if bubba kill someone in early game it's gg for the family.

I agree if someone can feed grandpa after the first victim go out the basement it's good even a little bit bubba.

[Enderscen]

In the slaughter house you have 1 job before the victim goes out and it's op just close all the gate where they can go through, at least 6, it's so easy to catch them and kill them.

When you found this it's ez.

And try other perks you said you are level 2 johnny but try other build, i theory crafted mine and i think it's the best for him.

[Enderscen]

Hysteria 3 featherweight 3 motivation 3. This combo is insane cause you have high stamina recover, high damage when low stamina, and you run 15% faster.

[Nicoy]

Originally posted by Eliwood (FR):

Originally posted by Nicoy:

Bubba and Johnny are the strongest, and fastest damage dealers their difference is that Leatherface can but also must destroy all the barricades, holes, and is fast af with his chainsaw revved he kills in 2,3 hits pretty much every time, but also u can't hear ♥♥♥♥ while running with it. Johnny has tracking which is a good ability especially vs sneaky squads (when Cook's hearing is not that usefull) so he is second best at guarding objectives and punishing Victims after Bubba. The important thing is that when pick him you pretty much need someone who is good at blood harvesting. If you don't want to have issues feeding Grandpa u don't want to have like full agressive Hitchhiker in your team too. And which has only maxed Savagery and Endurance and perks for that.

Good point of view, but feeding grandpa is not necessary if you can rush the victim, if bubba kill someone in early game it's gg for the family.

I agree if someone can feed grandpa after the first victim go out the basement it's good even a little bit bubba.

It's also true u can try to just have most possible aggresive and fast killing family possible (it would be most rewarding vs high level Victims bully squads) and just get all the blood you need from killing them.
I think it's just the early mentality of some players just like after tech test, and in a few first days. It seemed like everyone thought of Cook being the worst, and feeling the worst to play (and probably was without any perks, stats) but even then his padlocks were clutch. And now he is pretty much a must pick on Gas Station, and less on House but still he is usefull there. So family can only worry about the fusebox until his padlocks are ON. He is like the most supportive character in Family.
Now everyone thinks Johnny is the worst, but every nonlifing Victim streamer knows that maxed out Johnny hits like a truck, can chase you and hit you forever, and is hard af to lose on open spaces. Also i'm taking Johnny over Cook on Slaughterhouse anytime.

[Schrödinger]

Cook is only bad until you grab an armchair and become the better Grandpa for your team.

[Gazzza]

I downplayed Johnny a bit a few days ago but after playing him he certainly has good strengths.
His mere presence alone at an area is super threatening because he will be able to track down your prints and do huge damage with just a few hits.
He is a great guard dog. and being able to flush people out of the final escape zones if you make it there in time works wonders.

I have also been able to nuke alot of connies who just opened the gas station door and other exits too that I wouldnt have been able to do with others.

[Doom Punk]

I definitely don't think he's as good as Hitch or Cook but I still think he does his job well. My group and I prefer the lockdown of Hitch and Cook to have Johnny in the mix.

At the very least I'm fine with going against him unlike Sissy.

[Nicoy]

Originally posted by Eliwood (FR):

Hysteria 3 featherweight 3 motivation 3. This combo is insane cause you have high stamina recover, high damage when low stamina, and you run 15% faster.

I don't know what you meant with featherweight and motivation. I think u meant fired up and scout? Then yeah this build sounds very good. I bet u probably pretty much always kill them with last hit when u are running out of stamina.

In mine i went more for never ending stamina and chasing them forever with feral (for additional points), easily tuckered out, and scout. The 40% slower stamina regeneration, and the 10% less damage dealt doesn't mean much when i'm full maxed savagery, can hit fast af when also beeing 15% faster and chasing them forever.
I also was thinking about adding perk for more blood harvesting (or blood banker 30% more maximum blood storage capacity probably is enough) or put more attributes into it, so u can just reach that sweet 27 points mark when after executing someone u get enough blood to fully level up Grandpa. i would just need to grind and level it up.