Will there be a way to do only PvE?

[Judgementnollid]

I'll be honest PvP can be fun sometimes but in my experience ending up getting swarmed by either a massive clan/ grifters just wanting to mess up someone's day/ or just in general getting raided while being offline because I have 80 hour work weeks can really kill the want to play the game. Is this game going to have areas where its PvP and/or have a way to where you can switch to just PvE?

Don't get me wrong I understand the idea of the game being PvPvE but for the reasons above ^ that basically killed my want to play the last game that had this called Last Oasis. I'm hoping you have something in mind for those who just want to do PvE and/or want to switch between the two modes.

[Imp0815]

I don't know why we need another one of those. Especially with building a cool Walker and then loosing it to the Chines Clan that build 10 in a span of two hours cause they have 500 people grinding away at the game.
But i know its much easier to fill gaps in game contentment with PvP as the player fill those.
I don't know of any good example of a good PvE focused game in genres like this. ARC is OK in PvE. Conan Exiles sucks hard as most of the PvE content is a buggy laggy mess.
What i never saw yet is an Coop Extraction shooter like Escape from Tarkov and i think it's market gap that can be filled. But that's on another page.
For the OP i fully agree, if this game has not a PvE mode that is engaging and has content to do in PvE this will vanish in the sea of these Rust/DayZ/Fortnight-sameness.
One thing i can imagine would be neutral cities and a full trading and economy system that the Players can engage with. These Hubs could provide quest for PoIs in the open "Sands" that behave like dungeons or raids. Additionally there should be manned NPC Walkers that can be neutral or hostile. Walker to walker battles could be awesome. With boarding and all. - Now that i wrote that, if this plays like Sea of Thiefs but with Steampunk Walkers and more depth it could be a hit!

[party time]

We believe the risk of a chance of PVP when you're doing PVE missions is part of the sauce

[KampRotte]

I hope so, looking back at the failure that is the game "last oasis and seeing that this game is basicly the same i hope these devs learn from the mistakes last oasis devs made. Last oasis devs realised too late that having pvp 24/7 is a thing that a few like but many hate and went pve focus too late and now it's dead. Not that it didn't die relativly fast anyway because of pvp and sealclubbers.
Pls try to separate pve and pvp or i fear this game will end up down the same road.

[Judgementnollid]

Originally posted by FRIENDLУ:

We believe the risk of a chance of PVP when you're doing PVE missions is part of the sauce

Can you explain in detail how the PvPvE will work? With all due respect your statement doesn't give me much hope especially with the concerns I just laid out.

[Jhonny]

my gut tells me this might be something rust-style, more likely its gonna be old MMO style where the moment you get out the city is a free for all

[Stavinsky]

Originally posted by FRIENDLУ:

We believe the risk of a chance of PVP when you're doing PVE missions is part of the sauce

Saw the product, though "fun". Saw it was PVPVE and my mind got me straight back to all the PVPVE games and other "PVP only area" I tried over the past 25 years. Got to remember how all those games were plagued by thousands of griefers. That and the addition of the study showing how many percent of cheaters are in PVP games those days, I though "Nope, sad, not wanting to put any hours into a game where griefers and cheaters will make me lose hours of invested time."

Really hope you will change your mind and provide with some PVE only servers or ways to opt out of pvp, if not, then be sure to see another toxic community develop like in so many of those games out there.


edit : For the cheaters situation, you only have to see that even Rockstar in GTA 5 have finally realized how their public lobbies were so full of cheaters that they finally provided players with the ability to do ALL their missions in private sessions and friends only session, and that's only 1 example. There are peoples out there who's only way to "enjoy" a good day is to ruin the day of others. Just have to look at rust and all those others games with the exact same situations. Yep a bit of competition is nice, but it's hardly fun when you get in competition with peoples who exploits games weakness, or directly cheat.

[Mutant1988]

PVP optional?

Will it be possible to play the game as a co-op experience, without being forced into PVP against other players?

[Miz]

Agreed, this game looks great and a PVE only option would make alot more people want to play, making the world feel more 'alive'

Heck, just treat it like Fallout 76's "Pacifist" and PVP rules (attacking a player does massively reduced damage, but they attack you back to initiate pvp, option in menus to set yourself as pacifist, causing you to do 0 damage to other players/their CAMPs, etc)

[Artie Dolittle]

finally someone who dosnt scream toxic trash for people wanting a pve game

[AdorableSparrow]

yeah people are tired of PVP mega ammounts of it.

[Draconic Creature]

Originally posted by AdorableAurora:

yeah people are tired of PVP mega ammounts of it.

I think it's less about the PvP and more that, in many games, they seem obsessed with making it so you can't avoid it any way, if someone finds you and wants to pvp, while you don't? Tought luck.

It's especially bad with games where that involves a lot of skill, gear, building up, etc, and also just blows the door off the hinges for those 'pvp' players who only want easy wins and thus only go for people they outmatch, destroying the population over time and eventually leading to the game's death when the influx of new players stop and there's only the pvp people left.

[Artie Dolittle]

as this games popularity increases the toxic pvp fanbase of oasis will move over to these discussions as this game will be filled with new players to fight i saw it happen in the oasis discussions where all pve arguments where shutdown with "questionable language"

[Artie Dolittle]

i just hope the developers will ignore the temporary pvp money because if this one also fails due to pvp zergs there will just be another oasis clone that thell move too

[Carynus]

PVP optional or "flagging" to do PVP would be great and I would be more interested in buying this game. I am not a PVP fan and avoid PVP only games. Looks like it will be a great game and I would love to play it the way I like to play games.

[lastbreath]

Destiny 2 is the best example how to treat PvE and PvP players. Campaigns, world exploration, seasonal community activities and co-op missions for PvE players, and different PvP mods for PvP players.