Is this a remake or a new entry?

[Rozen]

I'm confused, so far the more I search for this title the more contradictions I find.

[MonkeyBone]

Remake of the first game that was never released outside of Japan.

[Belyth]

Remaster of the first game on PS3
They updated the models, but everything else looks still the old.
They didn't upgrade it to the Gal Gun 2 / VR quality.

[Rozen]

Originally posted by MonkeyBone:

Remake of the first game that was never released outside of Japan.

Oh, no wonder I didn't understand the mix of "remake" and "new game" among the comments, it "IS" a remake, but "NEW" to the western.

Thanks for the clarification.

[Snow]

I was curious about this as well. Thanks for the info :D

[[Himitsu] Tosiba91]

so this part has nothing to do with double peace?

or is a new game with a new story?
do i see that right?
I'm confused because I'm thinking of buying it but I already have Double Peace and part 2.


I actually thought Double Peace was part 1

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by Apokalypse Tosiba91:

I actually thought Double Peace was part 1

Gal Gun XB360 is the original.

Gal Gun PS3 is a port of that release. However it is not identical in content and has Move support.

These two releases were Japan only.

Gal Gun Returns is a remake of Gal Gun. It is not identical to either the XB360 or PS3 versions, and features multi language support for the first time.

Gal Gun Double Peace is set after Gal Gun and features new characters. It was the first game to be available with English support after the Japanese release.

Gal Gun Double Peace Bi-lin-gal is a Japan only release of Gal Gun Double Peace (the difference being the publisher and the addition of English language support). This version is sold on consoles and on PC via DMM -- it differs to the Steam release by having a few additional costumes not available outside Japan. it replaces the original Japan only version of Gal Gun Double Peace which could no longer be sold.

Gal Gun 2 is set after Double Peace and features a completely new cast of main characters.

Gal Gun VR is basically a technical demo which eventually was re-released as part of Gal Gun 2 (via the VR DLC).

And finally: Boy Gun was once proposed as an alternative version where you give Euphoria to boys. But sadly, has never left that initial idea phase, despite many of IntiCreate's female staff liking the idea.

[pokedude900]

Originally posted by Chika Ogiue:

Gal Gun VR is basically a technical demo which eventually was re-released as part of Gal Gun 2 (via the VR DLC).

Based on the timing of its release and some stuff that was found when datamining it, I'm almost certain that Gal*Gun VR was simply an early build of Gal*Gun 2 that they threw up on Steam after Sony told them they weren't allowed to make lewd VR games (2 on PS4 was very clearly built with VR in mind yet mysteriously never supported it). Hell, when 2 first arrived on Steam, it had the full VR support in the code and just dummied out. ....then the devs removed it and later added it back in as DLC.

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by pokedude900:

Based on the timing of its release

I know. This was at the point where Sony first started their aggressive crack down on Japanese developers (and only Japanese developers). At least Gal Gun 2 remained playable in its forced pancake mode. Happy Manager did not fair so well. But that doesn't change the fact that GG VR is a technical demo.

[Flying Fox]

i can see why they didnt want to make boy gun...
they would have to create new models xD
All games use the same models and just add/replace the heroines. Maybe up their textures a bit, but they are all the same

Forgot the spin off titles in the list though.. like gun gun pixies which features the same two fairies

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by Flying Fox:

Forgot the spin off titles in the list though.. like gun gun pixies which features the same two fairies

Gun Gun Pixies is a Compile Heart/Idea Factory title. It is not related to Gal Gun in any shape or form.

It's also a game I would have loved to play on PC. But, unfortunately, we cannot purchase the PC version in Japan.

[pokedude900]

Originally posted by Flying Fox:

i can see why they didnt want to make boy gun...
they would have to create new models xD
All games use the same models and just add/replace the heroines. Maybe up their textures a bit, but they are all the same

Not true. As each of the 3 main games takes place a year apart from each other, some girls graduate while a new set comes in to take their place. Only the first years in this game have appeared in every entry (with a few exceptions). Additionally, they update the models in each game to have more detail. This one in particular, despite essentially being a re-release of the PS3 game, has all new models that look nicer than the previous entries (except for the kidnapper and guards from Kaoruko's route, which is understandable since you can't Doki Doki them).

[pokedude900]

Originally posted by Chika Ogiue:

Originally posted by pokedude900:

Based on the timing of its release

I know. This was at the point where Sony first started their aggressive crack down on Japanese developers (and only Japanese developers). At least Gal Gun 2 remained playable in its forced pancake mode. Happy Manager did not fair so well. But that doesn't change the fact that GG VR is a technical demo.

Oh, I think I see where we're getting confused. At one point before GG2 was even announced, they did release information about a VR tech demo with screenshots of you interacting with Shinobu. But that's not something that ever actually appeared in the final game. The GGVR we did get has nothing to do with that demo and was, again, an early build of GG2 that they quietly released after Sony shut the VR functionality down.

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by pokedude900:

But that's not something that ever actually appeared in the final game. The GGVR we did get has nothing to do with that demo and was, again, an early build of GG2 that they quietly released after Sony shut the VR functionality down.

The confusion is because I'm not referring to the demo you are talking about. GGVR is also a technical demo, it is not a complete game. The difference being that GGVR was released commercially to the public. The other, was for inhouse and promotional use.

GGVR was most certainly released for sale to gauge market interest. Which would help IntiCreates decide if it was worth the resources to fix up the code and add it back to GG2 when it could only be done on a single platform.

The key point is to remember that IntiCreates is a Japanese company with an initial focus on the Japanese market. Adoption of VR headsets back during GG2 development and release (especially those for PC) was significantly lower than other regions. Partly due to prohibitive import costs and partly due to scalpers hoarding the PS VR stock.

With Sony refusing a PS VR release, their biggest potential Japanese market was denied to them. If the GG VR release had not done well, there would be no working VR support in Gal Gun 2, it would have remained disabled due to not being financially viable for the small studio.

[Flying Fox]

Originally posted by Chika Ogiue:

Originally posted by Flying Fox:

Forgot the spin off titles in the list though.. like gun gun pixies which features the same two fairies

Gun Gun Pixies is a Compile Heart/Idea Factory title. It is not related to Gal Gun in any shape or form.

It's also a game I would have loved to play on PC. But, unfortunately, we cannot purchase the PC version in Japan.

Fair however:
While they are by different developers, they share the same publisher and the pixies of gun gun pixies ARE the love angels of gal gun return/the original
thats enough to count as spin off - even though they are more like agents in there

[pokedude900]

Gun Gun Pixies was developed by Shade and published in Japan by Idea Factory. Gal*Gun was developed and published by Inti Creates. They have literally nothing in common except their Western publisher PQube (who are simply licensing the games). And how on Earth do Bea-tan and Kame-pon look anything like Patako and Ekoro? They don't even have the same hair colors or styles. I am completely baffled as to how you can think these two games are in any way related.