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[Spicy Chimken]

I think im actually dumb. For the tower, I am stumped, I went through all the windows tried figuring out what needed to be done and still cannot figure out the window situation.

[Blisscore]

Hi! (Don't read this if you don't want to know a hint on how to do it) Check out the tower wind research book which shows the wind mph per level, you have to open windows on each level how it shows in the book if that makes sense! I was stuck on this for quite a while too! <3

[mrjvoorhees]

Also, pay attention to the fact that each window has TWO shutters... so, some windows may need to be half open. I thought I'd figured it out from the wind research but I overlooked this tiny detail!

[Spicy Chimken]

Yeah… I was pretty tired last night. Was on the wrong flower and i still didnt understand the puzzle despite the clues given. I finished that plant as well somehow. I dont understand what example it wanted me to use lol.

[NappinYogi]

I was stumped on this one as well, went over the clues numerous times and still couldn't figure it out. I figured it must be something to do with dates, but I gave up... I went through each window combination in the tower and the flower eventually grew.

I still have no idea why the correct window combination worked.

[Spicy Chimken]

omg same, I got lucky, I 100% it and wont be returning. Instructions werent clear enough

[Psyringe]

I don't know, I found the clues very clear. Here's how my reasoning went (spoilers, obviously):

- The nursery rhyme in the orchard tells you that the Wolfglove grows on the summit of a snowy mountain

- The "Alpine Weather Guide" in the orangery lists the average wind speed at several mountain summits. Obviously, since it's the wind that produces the sound of the flower, you need to find the correct wind speed, i.e. the one that the plant is accustomed to.

- The "Letter about Alps" inside the orangery, which talks about "a plant that produced a whistling tune", lies next to an envelope with a stamp featuring an ibex.

- The coin collection at the bottom level of the orangery includes a coin with the same image, and when you rotate it, you'll see the words "Weisshorn Switzerland" imprinted on it.

- So now you know that the Wolfglove has been observed (by your friend who wrote the letter) on the Weisshorn mountain. The "Alpine Weather Guide" lists the wind speed at the summit of that mountain as 40 f/s

- The "Wind Research" notes in the orangery show you how to recreate various wind speeds in the tower by opening specific windows. One of the images shows how to create a wind speed of 40 f/s.

I found that pretty clear. You don't even have to do any calculations for the windspeed, you just need to connect the dots between the clues - as with most puzzles in this game. You don't even have to use the wind-measuring instrument in the tower (which looks like a leftover from an earlier implementation of the puzzle). You never have to experiment with the windows either, you just need to recreate the pattern that the game already gives you.

To be honest, if the puzzles in this game had been any more obvious, I would probably have been a bit bored. The puzzles were already too much on the easy side for my taste (I did enjoy the game very much, I just wish it had encouraged me to do any thinking, instead of always flatly providing me any information I needed.)

[NappinYogi]

Yeah, the clues were clear. But I didn't connect the stamp on the letter with the coins...

[Spicy Chimken]

Even if the clues are clear to you, they arnt to others sometimes. I have a learning disability. So even the most obvious becomes confusing to me. It's a ok though

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by Spicy Chicken:

Even if the clues are clear to you, they arnt to others sometimes. I have a learning disability. So even the most obvious becomes confusing to me. It's a ok though

Well, what parts of the clues that I listed above aren't clear to you? They can all be found directly in the game. If they are clear enough for you in my post, then they are clear enough in the game.

It's possible, of course, that you weren't able to get all of the connections by yourself, especially if you have a learning disability. In that case, however, it would have been better to write "I did not understand the clues", instead of saying "the clues weren't clear enough". Because that was written as a factual, objective assessment about the game, hence it came across as you blaming the game for your trouble.

When you're saying that the game objectively doesn't provide clear enough clues to its players (as you did in post #5), then I would strongly disagree, hence I wrote my reply. When you're saying that you have a learning disability and therefore might struggle understanding clues that are clear to others (as you did in post #8), then there's nothing to disagree with. In any case, respect for tackling puzzle games despite your disability. :)

[NappinYogi]

It's easy to miss things in a puzzle game, regardless if all of the clues are right in front of you.

Thanks for the explanation, but there's no need for a lecture.

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by Shireen:

It's easy to miss things in a puzzle game, regardless if all of the clues are right in front of you.

Yes, totally. I'm sure that every gamer has memories of not seeing solutions that were right in front of them - it certainly happens to me from time to time. ;)

The point I was making, is that the game (in my opinion) does a pretty good job in providing clear clues. Of course that doesn't mean that everyone will get them, but if one doesn't, it's more a case of "Aw, why didn't I see that" than one of "The instructions weren't clear enough", which was the (now retracted) claim that prompted my reply.

Originally posted by Shireen:

Thanks for the explanation, but there's no need for a lecture.

Well, the person I was talking to explicitly said that they have a learning disorder. As someone who has taught children with disabilities as a part of his professional life, I found it more useful to make my point as clear as possible. I'm sorry if that came across as a lecture. I do find my point worthwhile to make, though. You're free to disagree, of course. ;)

[Spicy Chimken]

I do see both sides, I just didnt understand how the tower worked and I was on the wrong flower like I said. Like I said even if instructions are clear to one person, they can be different for others with wide variety.

it goes like this, teaching one with a disability isnt the same as experiencing it.

I aint gonna argue with you.