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The time to group-up is when the enemy team pushes or an objective is in play. Those constantly trying to have fights by pushing green or blue aren't paying attention to the make-up of their team, they're used to winning and only accept that they need their team when blaming them when they die. They don't realise they're being carried because all they see if their kills vs. deaths.
They never pay any attention to the assists for some reason.