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[Onimaho]

Originally posted by CiggyPop:

What are some things they could add or improve?

I really like the game early and mid. Late game isn't about player skill anymore.

Whoever stacked the right formula of gear and enough of it on the most broken character wins 95% of the time.

That also brings me to another thing I really dislike about this game or really any game of the "dota" genre. There are 100's of items to add on in match, but that vast majority of the playerbase just uses some copy paste formula someone else made. It could be removed and for the majority of the playerbase that result would be a better game.

[Droolguy]

Originally posted by MUG Root Beer:

Originally posted by Droolguy:

The fact you think that Twitch streamers represent a large portion of the player base makes me laugh a little. NGL.

The sum total people playing bot matches outside match times is probably less than 1%.

Did I ever say they represent the majority?

The point is that the game is still playable right now, so every player online right now isn't just sitting in the menu with the game open in the background

Sure, but that section of the playerbase is so small as to be largely irrelevant, they exist in the margin of error of the total player base.

[[S.A.S]sephchan]

I got bored quickly.
The 'heroes' look entirely uninspired. They're all bland and washed out.

[NomeGrande]

Originally posted by Droolguy:

Originally posted by MUG Root Beer:

And when it doesn't?

Game has a constantly rising player count as more invites are sent out with no signs of players getting bored of the game. It's a pretty interesting take on a MOBA played as a third-person shooter and I find a lot of enjoyment in the game as well as a lot of other people

Also, game's been out for people to play for like a month, so what do you expect them to do with criticism in such a short time? Are they supposed to instantly change the game on the spot instead of letting the play testing continue?

The servers are not open right now, so 118k people are just sitting in menus.

My brother in Christ, you can play against bots.

[Droolguy]

Originally posted by S.A.Ssephchan:

I got bored quickly.
The 'heroes' look entirely uninspired. They're all bland and washed out.

This is generally due to them all being roughly the same character when you take away their 1-4 buttons.

Even the sniper classes have damage falloff and automatic weapons.

Really Valve? Snipers that can't snipe without using cooldowns?

[Amogus]

Originally posted by Droolguy:

Originally posted by MUG Root Beer:

Did I ever say they represent the majority?

The point is that the game is still playable right now, so every player online right now isn't just sitting in the menu with the game open in the background

Sure, but that section of the playerbase is so small as to be largely irrelevant, they exist in the margin of error of the total player base.

I literally just went on Twitch and filtered by just Spanish and there's 300 streamers playing Deadlock with maybe 1 out of every 10 playing something else with Deadlock as the title

This "margin of error" group you talk about is more like a sizable minority of at least 20%. People who love the game will play bot matches all day long just because they like the gameplay and the number of streamers playing right now shows that there's even more people who aren't streaming playing the game

[Droolguy]

Originally posted by NomeGrande:

Originally posted by Droolguy:

The servers are not open right now, so 118k people are just sitting in menus.

My brother in Christ, you can play against bots.

Read rest of thread as to why that's irrelevant for the most part.

If it's TLDR: Those players account for such a small portion they don't matter.

[Droolguy]

Originally posted by MUG Root Beer:

Originally posted by Droolguy:

Sure, but that section of the playerbase is so small as to be largely irrelevant, they exist in the margin of error of the total player base.

I literally just went on Twitch and filtered by just Spanish and there's 300 streamers playing Deadlock with maybe 1 out of every 10 playing something else with Deadlock as the title

This "margin of error" group you talk about is more like a sizable minority of at least 20%. People who love the game will play bot matches all day long just because they like the gameplay and the number of streamers playing right now shows that there's bound to be even more people who aren't streaming playing the game

118k and your example is 9/10ths of 300 people?

That's 0.228%.

[fazimodo]

Originally posted by CiggyPop:

What are some things they could add or improve?

After 6hours. I am not enjoying this. Balance issues with some champions being OP (and there are only 20 of them and they failed to balance it), network issues, suddenly I got cpu issues with frame drops after update.

Then you have typical MOBA problems: feeder goes into play dies 3 times in 3 minutes and rage quits, you are left with lost game and have to restart wasting time and effort.
You want to check weaker champ? good luck being against tryhards while you have a feeder in your team.
You do good and win your lane? Too bad your other lanes suck.
ELO hell is real in every single MOBA and this will not be different.
When it releases it will also be full of smurf accounts.

but you will keep playing because these games have typical gamble addiction going on. You won your lane, you know you are good, but your teammates are bad. And you try again because you will get better teammates, right? Or you will carry. And you play and play and cannot see that it is completely not fun, you lose and lose time and time again, you start to play crap eventually waiting for someone else to carry you, but you still are given this dopamine hit that you did good in some aspects. Like a gambler who almost won, but is a loser in overall picture.

[Kamltoe]

People arent getting invites to even play the game

[Droolguy]

Originally posted by Kamltoe:

People arent getting invites to even play the game

I would be wholly willing to bet that is intentional in order to keep players trickling in the future, as is the reason why the game does not display a review score which I would bet in it's current form would not be flattering and would likely ruin the hype.

[Lowkey]

Originally posted by Droolguy:

Originally posted by The Wurst:

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ an actual deadlock thread. I would change the spirit urn mechanics or just remove them.

I would completely rebuild the upgrade system from the ground up.

Upgrades are too specific to allow people to realistically experiment outside of fairly easy-to-math meta builds which simply give people the "illusion of choice".

I would also remove damage falloff entirely.

...and I would massively rework most of the core abilities for almost every character in the game.

This game suffers from an extreme lack of imagination or an over-abundance of watering down.

Can anyone in here name more than 3 honest to god skillshots in the game? Just 3.

How about a single true CC or support class that isn't a DPS hybrid?

Let's hope Valve doesn't listen to this guy at all. Valve - Please keep your design principles and stay away from backseat developers. If people want to play support, there -are- support builds and viable support items through actives. Just because everyone doesn't build support, doesn't mean it's not there. Can it be encouraged more? sure, but I dont need a character like Soraka or Sona, the design is different because of Stamina.

People need to understand that this Moba has different layers of design than other Mobas. Let the game beta, let them feel out their design philosophies. They will get there. The game is great so far.

[Droolguy]

Originally posted by Lowkey:

Originally posted by Droolguy:

I would completely rebuild the upgrade system from the ground up.

Upgrades are too specific to allow people to realistically experiment outside of fairly easy-to-math meta builds which simply give people the "illusion of choice".

I would also remove damage falloff entirely.

...and I would massively rework most of the core abilities for almost every character in the game.

This game suffers from an extreme lack of imagination or an over-abundance of watering down.

Can anyone in here name more than 3 honest to god skillshots in the game? Just 3.

How about a single true CC or support class that isn't a DPS hybrid?

Let's hope Valve doesn't listen to this guy at all. Valve - Please keep your design principles and stay away from backseat developers. If people want to play support, there -are- support builds and viable support items through actives. Just because everyone doesn't build support, doesn't mean it's not there. Can it be encouraged more? sure, but I dont need a character like Soraka or Sona, the design is different because of Stamina.

People need to understand that this Moba has different layers of design than other Mobas. Let the game beta, let them feel out their design philosophies. They will get there. The game is great so far.

"You can kind of fake it by purchasing very specific upgrades for only a couple classes and it could sort-of-kinda be close!"

That's what your basically saying, but your totally disregarding that if you do that, you'll be deleted by your average DPS build almost instantly so the build is near worthless.

Fanboi less.

This game suffers from some pretty extreme pigeonhole design. All characters are DPS hybrids with some one-trick pony stuff.

[ProfessorAnime]

I think seven is pretty cool overall, but i think they need to increase his weapon damage more and decrease his ult damage a little. even going full weapon damage items feels pretty bad compared to other heros. dont want to have to go full ult damage every time, would be cool to do a run and gun kind of build also.

[Jimmy9003]

One thing: nerf Saven range on that ult, to silence him u need to get close, but how when ult have miles of range, :/