SoloQ Tierlist.

[Dusty!]

Just won a 4v6 and then went 18 for 1 the game after. I average 3 KD/A every game, 10/0 every laning phase.

>S (Stun + auto dps, roam tower dive at 3 items)
Wraith, Dynamo, 7

>A (Lots of stats or utility)
bebop (no escape)

>B
Warden (Good auto attack animation and raw stats), Ivy (Good stats but no carry), Lash (OP against noobs but falls off, weak to phantom form), Abrams (no stun, mid escape, bad laning)

>C
Ivy (Good potential, but it's a noob farming meta, not an ally saving meta), Viscous (Same thing), Moe (Self stun isn't meta, dig worthless outside of escape, still has 1v1 potential)

>D
Kelvin (Ability power builds suck right now, also no stun), Paradox (Theoretically op ability in comp, worthless in current meta), Vindicta (No stun, bad at chasing, can't carry), Infernus (too predictable to carry, but has solid kit)

>E
McGinnis(Most overrated char in the game, no AP scaling, teamfight is about burst), Yamato (You can just walk away from ult, bad in lane and roaming), Haze (There's no wards in the game, you can gank lanes by just walking to them so you don't need invis, no CC), Shiv (Ability power builds suck, bad auto, bad abilities), Pocket (He has a bad escape and nothing else), Grey Talon

[Rinky]

>Ivy (Good stats but no carry)
>Moe (Self stun isn't meta, dig worthless outside of escape, still has 1v1 potential)

yeah, no, I am not even going to finish reading this

[Amogus]

Warden is annoying as hell because it feels like you have to specifically build around him to win

It could be that my teammates aren't being too helpful with it, but I'll buy toxic bullets/healbane/siphon bullets combined and still feel like I'm getting nowhere with his HP while he's just holding W and spamming AoE damage constantly

[Dusty!]

Originally posted by Rinky:

yeah, no, I am not even going to finish reading this

If you are struggling with Moe you are complete trash. His dig is below base movement speed and can't chase vertically. His abilities have a max range and he can be kited.

He's not like warwick where all his abilities have extra range. Imagine warwick except he has no Q jump and no R range, and then Eeverybody naturally builds healcut.

[Dusty!]

Originally posted by MUG Root Beer:

Warden is annoying as hell because it feels like you have to specifically build around him to win.

Yeah he's a character whose base stats are crazy. You can just run out of his CC, but he's a lane bully for sure.

While people don't realize you can just walk outside of his CC, he is perma S tier. Once they realize he will still be top 25% just based on his raw stats and lane bullying.

[Dusty!]

Originally posted by MUG Root Beer:

It could be that my teammates aren't being too helpful with it, but I'll buy toxic bullets/healbane/siphon bullets combined and still feel like I'm getting nowhere with his HP while he's just holding W and spamming AoE damage constantly

You hit them with a stun and then headshot them while taking the 6500 mods that reduce their damage by 25% and the other one that decrease their resistance by 25%. Also close quarters, silver mag for q reload, and burst fire. There's a ton of evasion in this game and that's why stun characters are the S tiers.

[James Bondage]

>Grey Talon in E

Okay, thanks for letting me know I can totally disregard everything else you said.

Spammable massive single-target damage and a global nuke+stun on a short cooldown plus the best aerial skill in the game. The only way you're not winning lane is if you can't aim your 1, and the only way you're not doing top damage is if the rest of your team fed horrendously. The only thing I've run into that can shut it down 1v1 was a cheating Bebop.

[Rinky]

Originally posted by Maid hunter.:

Originally posted by Rinky:

yeah, no, I am not even going to finish reading this

If you are struggling with Moe you are complete trash. His dig is below base movement speed and can't chase vertically. His abilities have a max range and he can be kited.

He's not like warwick where all his abilities have extra range. Imagine warwick except he has no Q jump and no R range, and then Eeverybody naturally builds healcut.

there are builds that use his dig as main damage input. and you refuse even to mention that this ability has damage. you can eat half of health in a pack of enemies and then finish one of them with 4 unless you got interrupted or killed in a short time before you pressed 3 after finishing your dig. Not to mention the amount of utility that his ult provides as a long ass disable.

[AsUI]

What kind of Tier List can we talk about when the SoloQ matchmaking is full of ♥♥♥♥.
They didn't even bother to divide the queues into those who play in a Party and those who play solo.

And what about the leavers, are they at least punished somehow? Just now 4 games out of 5 on one of the teams there is a leaver, well it is very interesting to play... Just a real competitive session game. They just can't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ learn.

[Brother Frank]

Originally posted by Imperial Guardsman:

>Grey Talon in E

Okay, thanks for letting me know I can totally disregard everything else you said.

Spammable massive single-target damage and a global nuke+stun on a short cooldown plus the best aerial skill in the game. The only way you're not winning lane is if you can't aim your 1, and the only way you're not doing top damage is if the rest of your team fed horrendously. The only thing I've run into that can shut it down 1v1 was a cheating Bebop.

Yeah I don't know what this guy's smoking, none of this list is accurate, but it was funny to read.

[Dusk Of Sanity]

It maybe a tier list for you, but definitely not a well thought out one to be used by other
Some many questionable statements, for example - McGinnis has a massive burst and a big bully in team fights. You can block ppl off easily , drop a killzone of turrets and spam ult every 15 ish seconds which with cant realy be ignored ( all within 1 build), the only issue is lack of antiair exept turrents , whick need to be preped

[Amogus]

Originally posted by AsUI:

What kind of Tier List can we talk about when the SoloQ matchmaking is full of ♥♥♥♥.
They didn't even bother to divide the queues into those who play in a Party and those who play solo.

And what about the leavers, are they at least punished somehow? Just now 4 games out of 5 on one of the teams there is a leaver, well it is very interesting to play... Just a real competitive session game. They just can't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ learn.

This isn't even a full release, so why would there be any sort of punishment system in place yet?

[OhHellYeah]

LMFAO

[Dusty!]

Originally posted by Imperial Guardsman:

>Grey Talon in E

Okay, thanks for letting me know I can totally disregard everything else you said.

Spammable massive single-target damage and a global nuke+stun on a short cooldown plus the best aerial skill in the game. The only way you're not winning lane is if you can't aim your 1, and the only way you're not doing top damage is if the rest of your team fed horrendously. The only thing I've run into that can shut it down 1v1 was a cheating Bebop.

Monkeys running into teamfights and trading damage sounds like some low mmr gaming. They have zero all in threat, their teamfight contrib is auto attacks, zero chase ability. So unless the enemy run into you and then get wiped while the waves were pushed out, then you cannot carry soloQ as him.

I think i've died to one talon in the game total in 20 games. Every time I lane against them it's a nice easy kill and then I roam.

[Dusty!]

Originally posted by Dusk Of Sanity:

It maybe a tier list for you, but definitely not a well thought out one to be used by other
Some many questionable statements, for example - McGinnis has a massive burst and a big bully in team fights. You can block ppl off easily , drop a killzone of turrets and spam ult every 15 ish seconds which with cant realy be ignored ( all within 1 build), the only issue is lack of antiair exept turrents , whick need to be preped

> McGinnis has a massive burst and a big bully in team fights.
The word burst means short duration. McGinnis globally announces a channel that doesn't even have LOS functionality, multiple venues have to be clear for it to hit.

>every 15 ish seconds which with cant realy be ignored
Yeah I don't notice because I play stun characters who just run at her and kill her. McGinnis ult doesn't function at point blank.