The biggest problem with this game is the matchmaking

[Redmoron]

Honestly this is probably going to come off as some kind of rant, but I'm a one trick pony kind of player when it comes to MOBAs, and putting a single hero in ultra high priority and 2 others with no priority and not getting your ultra high priority hero 3 games in a row is a huge kick in the ♥♥♥♥.

Getting a hero you just don't play as much because the game decides "hey ♥♥♥♥ you" is basically a guaranteed loss, might as well just abandon the match at the start and save yourself the trouble.

The other issue I have with the matchmaking is it seems to fall into a trend and refuses to let go? I've been assigned the solo lane for almost every single game I've queued into. I can literally count on one hand how many games I've been placed into the dual lane. Now don't get me wrong I don't mind the solo lane, but I definitely would enjoy some variety every now and then and have a person next to me in the lane. In the last 50 games I've been in the dual lane once, and that's because a teammate was kind enough to swap lanes with me. Is there some kind of setting that tells the game to put you in the solo lane every time? I genuinely can't tell if this is a bug or a feature but it feels pretty awful to always get stuck in the solo lane playing against the same 3 heroes over and over.

[monstera]

So, as far as I know, the game prioritizes higher-performing players to solo lanes. The matchmaking might also be prioritizing groups queueing together into duo lanes, but I have no proof of that -- it would just make sense to do that so I assume that's what's going on.

If you're one-tricking then you're going to, probably, be performing better on average on that hero than most other people queueing for multiple heroes and splitting their performance across them are. Right now the matchmaking is based off your hero's performance. Each game you win with that hero increases your hero-specific MMR, which means you're going to be getting more solo lanes.

Originally posted by Redmoron:

Getting a hero you just don't play as much because the game decides "hey ♥♥♥♥ you" is basically a guaranteed loss, might as well just abandon the match at the start and save yourself the trouble.

This part's 100% on you. You're not being punished for anything. The queue system exists to get people in-game and playing quickly, not to serve you stubbornly playing one hero exclusively.

Yoshi said they're working on updates for the matchmaking. No details on when, he just said it was a priority on the beta forums.

[Redmoron]

Originally posted by monstera:

This part's 100% on you. You're not being punished for anything. The queue system exists to get people in-game and playing quickly, not to serve you stubbornly playing one hero exclusively.

I agree it's on me for being a one trick pony. But even if I wasn't and I was in the mood to play a specific hero the matchmaking can just give me someone else and that just sours the whole experience I find.

EDIT: If the matchmaking is good enough to pair you against people based on their hero picks, it's good enough to not make you choose 2 backup heroes for no conceivable reason.

[Nightmarian]

Originally posted by monstera:

So, as far as I know, the game prioritizes higher-performing players to solo lanes. The matchmaking might also be prioritizing groups queueing together into duo lanes, but I have no proof of that -- it would just make sense to do that so I assume that's what's going on.

If you're one-tricking then you're going to, probably, be performing better on average on that hero than most other people queueing for multiple heroes and splitting their performance across them are. Right now the matchmaking is based off your hero's performance. Each game you win with that hero increases your hero-specific MMR, which means you're going to be getting more solo lanes.

Originally posted by Redmoron:

Getting a hero you just don't play as much because the game decides "hey ♥♥♥♥ you" is basically a guaranteed loss, might as well just abandon the match at the start and save yourself the trouble.

This part's 100% on you. You're not being punished for anything. The queue system exists to get people in-game and playing quickly, not to serve you stubbornly playing one hero exclusively.

Yoshi said they're working on updates for the matchmaking. No details on when, he just said it was a priority on the beta forums.

It does supposedly try to put premade groups together in lane. Also, if you're playing super popular heroes you see even game then you're just simply not going to get them every time. It'll probably be even worse once ranked comes into play if there's banning too.

The answer is simply to just learn other heroes... you can't always play the same ones in League, Dota, Overwatch, etc either...

I'm lucky that like no one seems to play Pocket and rarely Ivy so I usually always get what I prioritize.

Originally posted by Redmoron:

Originally posted by monstera:

This part's 100% on you. You're not being punished for anything. The queue system exists to get people in-game and playing quickly, not to serve you stubbornly playing one hero exclusively.

I agree it's on me for being a one trick pony. But even if I wasn't and I was in the mood to play a specific hero the matchmaking can just give me someone else and that just sours the whole experience I find.

EDIT: If the matchmaking is good enough to pair you against people based on their hero picks, it's good enough to not make you choose 2 backup heroes for no conceivable reason.

There IS a concievable reason. It was explained to you. This isn't even unique to Deadlock. Have you ever played another here/class-based game ever before? You don't always get what you want to play.

[IEATFETI]

that your choice for only learning the one hero out of 21

[Redmoron]

The main reason I'm not playing any other heroes is because none of them are particularly fun to play other than bebop.

I understand you don't always get to play the hero you want but if any of the other heroes were fun then the issue could be mitigated in some way.

Doesn't really make up for the fact that it's a pretty terrible matchmaking system fundamentally. Getting served another hero doesn't really seem to matter to the MMR if I play against people who have their main heroes and at the high skill level. It doesn't seem like the MMR is tied to the hero so the system of just giving you something you don't play as often just ends up setting you up for failure. That's just how this matchmaking system operates.

[IEATFETI]

Originally posted by Redmoron:

The main reason I'm not playing any other heroes is because none of them are particularly fun to play other than bebop.

I understand you don't always get to play the hero you want but if any of the other heroes were fun then the issue could be mitigated in some way.

Doesn't really make up for the fact that it's a pretty terrible matchmaking system fundamentally. Getting served another hero doesn't really seem to matter to the MMR if I play against people who have their main heroes and at the high skill level. It doesn't seem like the MMR is tied to the hero so the system of just giving you something you don't play as often just ends up setting you up for failure. That's just how this matchmaking system operates.

that not correct each hero you play has it own MMR its not account based but hero based

[Nightmarian]

Originally posted by Redmoron:

The main reason I'm not playing any other heroes is because none of them are particularly fun to play other than bebop.

I understand you don't always get to play the hero you want but if any of the other heroes were fun then the issue could be mitigated in some way.

Doesn't really make up for the fact that it's a pretty terrible matchmaking system fundamentally. Getting served another hero doesn't really seem to matter to the MMR if I play against people who have their main heroes and at the high skill level. It doesn't seem like the MMR is tied to the hero so the system of just giving you something you don't play as often just ends up setting you up for failure. That's just how this matchmaking system operates.

Clearly hero shooters or mobas aren't for you if this not only surprised you, but bothers you enough to call a system terrible based on no other merits than your isolated wants.

[Sexter Gay Harber Gooner Mogdan]

Originally posted by Redmoron:

Honestly this is probably going to come off as some kind of rant, but I'm a one trick pony kind of player when it comes to MOBAs, and putting a single hero in ultra high priority and 2 others with no priority and not getting your ultra high priority hero 3 games in a row is a huge kick in the ♥♥♥♥.

Getting a hero you just don't play as much because the game decides "hey ♥♥♥♥ you" is basically a guaranteed loss, might as well just abandon the match at the start and save yourself the trouble.

Probably because the character you're choosing is popular, either because it's the "meta" or because people just like that specific character as much as you do. Either way, only one person can be a specific character, so maybe just... diversify your roster to build skill up on another. The developers ruining queue times just so you can do your "one trick pony" isn't ideal for anyone, especially so for you and any other player who can only play "one character". Moving out of your comfort zone would not only alleviate this problem you have, it'll also make you what we like to call a "more skilled player". After all, steamrolling players with a character you play all the time just becomes dull after a certain point. It's expected.

[AeneasXI]

You should be proficient with at least 2 heroes. Cant be that hard to learn the kit of 2?

I main haze and paradox. Haze often is occupied so I mainly get to play Paradox who is my strongest character anyways. (Though Haze carries harder in lategame without having a team that communicates well so thats why I choose her as first pick) Hardly anyone chooses Paradox so its very rare I have to play my 3rd character.

I also get to play Solo lanes 90% of the times if not more. If you want to play duo lanes consider teaming up with someone. If you queue with 2people you nearly always get to play a duo lane.

[Crowtein]

I've been getting rolled all day, playing solo and no one ever communicates, its just tiresome.

[Redmoron]

Alright so I gather most people feel like I was ranting about only wanting to play one hero, I definitely came off that way and that's my fault for being bad at expressing myself the first time around; but the problem I was trying to point out with this matchmaking system is:

Imagine you have one hero in purple priority and 2 others just selected with no priority. Your purple hero you've played a ton of games with and won most of them, fun times all around. And you've gotten decent with your backup heroes, played maybe 30 games and won a good chunk of them. The problem happens when you get given one of your backup heroes and end up playing against someone who has their main hero and over 100 games on them. You get absolutely destroyed in the laning phase and the ganking / fighting phase. THAT is what sucks about this system. You are at the mercy of the whims of the matchmaking system randomly assigning you a hero you're not that comfortable with all while playing against someone who's rooted in their comfort zone and has the skills to back it up.

[AeneasXI]

Originally posted by Redmoron:

Alright so I gather most people feel like I was ranting about only wanting to play one hero, I definitely came off that way and that's my fault for being bad at expressing myself the first time around; but the problem I was trying to point out with this matchmaking system is:

Imagine you have one hero in purple priority and 2 others just selected with no priority. Your purple hero you've played a ton of games with and won most of them, fun times all around. And you've gotten decent with your backup heroes, played maybe 30 games and won a good chunk of them. The problem happens when you get given one of your backup heroes and end up playing against someone who has their main hero and over 100 games on them. You get absolutely destroyed in the laning phase and the ganking / fighting phase. THAT is what sucks about this system. You are at the mercy of the whims of the matchmaking system randomly assigning you a hero you're not that comfortable with all while playing against someone who's rooted in their comfort zone and has the skills to back it up.

As far as I understood this correctly your MMR should be bound to your character. So if you use a character you don't play alot with you should not be getting the same strength opponents as you would with your main character...

[smokratez]

Yeah, I've experienced the same frustration. There is barely one character I like and want to learn. Never getting to play that character drains the motivation to play this game.

[Redmoron]

Originally posted by smokratez:

Yeah, I've experienced the same frustration. There is barely one character I like and want to learn. Never getting to play that character drains the motivation to play this game.

Exactly. That's the problem with this matchmaking system.

I can handle not getting a hero because someone else picked it before me. My fault I was too slow, suck it up and pick something else. But when the game decides to give you another hero with the lowest amount of priority in your selection for no reason, it's basically just a middle finger. That feature serves no purpose.

[Jimmy9003]

And I love that, it give a bit of chaos and surprise element to the game and encourages learning of other character, not just staying as You said "one trick pony".
Also maybe in distant future, after release, because of unique mm system, this game won't have problems like other mobas have... And by that I mean, games with/against same characters all the time, making it boring snorefest, most of time.