400 hours in Shiv only player. Q & A

[Misato K.]

Really anything from how to counter to what is the best items.

[LittleNinja]

What's the best way to learn him as a new player?

[Misato K.]

Originally posted by LittleNinja:

What's the best way to learn him as a new player?

I think the best way to learn him is to start with spirit focused builds like most knife builds will have boosts to his primary kit. Learning what fights you can win is also key for his char type, so dont be afraid to look for those 1v1 fights and see which ones are winnable. You are the 1v1 king

[Sunset.F Breaker]

thoughts on the nerf?

[defnothelupias]

Originally posted by Elvis:

Originally posted by LittleNinja:

What's the best way to learn him as a new player?

I think the best way to learn him is to start with spirit focused builds like most knife builds will have boosts to his primary kit. Learning what fights you can win is also key for his char type, so dont be afraid to look for those 1v1 fights and see which ones are winnable. You are the 1v1 king

lmao, he is 1v6 if you don't build him around those ♥♥♥♥♥♥ knives, but around his 2

[Misato K.]

Originally posted by Sunset.F Breaker:

thoughts on the nerf?

The only thing that feels like a true nerf is the cast range on 4... its cut in half and a lot of early game confirmed kills are just gone, its made me use mystic reach more and thats been me hard cope.

[Misato K.]

Originally posted by hELUPIAS:

Originally posted by Elvis:

I think the best way to learn him is to start with spirit focused builds like most knife builds will have boosts to his primary kit. Learning what fights you can win is also key for his char type, so dont be afraid to look for those 1v1 fights and see which ones are winnable. You are the 1v1 king

lmao, he is 1v6 if you don't build him around those ♥♥♥♥♥♥ knives, but around his 2

1 and 2 have the same kit minus extra charges, learning knife shiv lets you get ready for the full spirit and vitality build that is the 1v6 shiv

[Null Winter]

Originally posted by Elvis:

Originally posted by hELUPIAS:

lmao, he is 1v6 if you don't build him around those ♥♥♥♥♥♥ knives, but around his 2

1 and 2 have the same kit minus extra charges, learning knife shiv lets you get ready for the full spirit and vitality build that is the 1v6 shiv

Knife Shiv is still a valid build if you're facing a lot of long-range characters who are content to try and poke you down from the other end of the lane; a lot of Vindictas and Greys get complacent with their flight's ability to escape melee and put themselves at the end of most characters' range fall-off, but bleeding out from five knives stuck in their face doesn't suffer range fall-off~.

[crabbit backpack]

thoughts on pocket? i ALWAYS pre ult shiv and can 1v1 him when even. seems like one of shivs worst matchups

[Misato K.]

Originally posted by foxy plush:

thoughts on pocket? i ALWAYS pre ult shiv and can 1v1 him when even. seems like one of shivs worst matchups

It can feel unwinnable but as Shiv its about taking soul advantage and getting vitality early. Spirit Shield and return fire are my go to rush buys against Pocket. Also Knockdown has been another rush buy since it confirms into a lot of combos early.

[sphynx990]

SHIV so far seems on of the most unbalanced. Could not do anything on 1vs1s. Early abilities are worthless*?

[Spy]

best way to counter him with items?

[Misato K.]

Originally posted by Spy:

best way to counter him with items?

Slowing hex is currently his biggest counter and anything like decay or heal bane.