Mo and Krill are OP and need a fix

[Heavyimpcat]

Lvl 2 burrow, 1vs1 he can just kill you at feet of guardian and guardian DOES NOTHING ABSOLUTELY if there is his creeps around.

Its 200+ damage in 1.5 second lvl 2

This is game breaking to be honest.

[SassytheSoftcock]

play dynamo and stomp

[Heavyimpcat]

Originally posted by SassytheSoftcock:

play dynamo and stomp

Right, so what do I play where he is NOT chosen? And more importantly, HOW do i know what to pick when we dont know if Mo is chosen? You give really bad advice.

[top zzzz]

Originally posted by Heavyimpcat:

Lvl 2 burrow, 1vs1 he can just kill you at feet of guardian and guardian DOES NOTHING ABSOLUTELY if there is his creeps around.

Its 200+ damage in 1.5 second lvl 2

This is game breaking to be honest.

Damage him, he goes away. Play by tower if he continues to be aggro. Pick off his health and he'll back off. His burrow doesn't stop him from taking tower damage.

[Heavyimpcat]

Originally posted by top zzzz:

Originally posted by Heavyimpcat:

Play by tower if he continues to be aggro.

That's the whole point of my rant. Guardian COMPLETELY ignores him when he uses his spin rotation skill, if his creeps are in guardian range. And this can and IS abused.

[JustHaveTilt]

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[Bug Guy]

Originally posted by Heavyimpcat:

Originally posted by top zzzz:

That's the whole point of my rant. Guardian COMPLETELY ignores him when he uses his spin rotation skill, if his creeps are in guardian range. And this can and IS abused.

As a Mo & Krill player, I can tell you that Guardian does NOT completely ignore him. I get punched and slapped and slammed and shot by guardian every time im the closest thing to it, even if there are creeps in the vicinity.

[Heavyimpcat]

Originally posted by Bug Guy:

Originally posted by Heavyimpcat:

As a Mo & Krill player, I can tell you that Guardian does NOT completely ignore him. I get punched and slapped and slammed and shot by guardian every time im the closest thing to it, even if there are creeps in the vicinity.

I am talking about SPECIFICALLY when he does spin and did not attack you prior entering aggravation zone. He starts spinning = no normal attack, and in spin he does damage to you - guardian does ♥♥♥♥.

last night Mo killed me LITERALLY at feet of my guardian with 0 attention from same, while doing spin. I specifically checked, even after my death Guardian did NOTHING.

[Kraehe]

I will say, it would be nice if guardians switched aggro to players if they attack you within their range. Yknow, like in every other moba.

[Heavyimpcat]

Originally posted by Kraehe:

I will say, it would be nice if guardians switched aggro to players if they attack you within their range. Yknow, like in every other moba.

Exactly that.

[Doc. Bigfoot]

pro tip

just let him have the tower hell leave and youll have free farm

[Bug Guy]

Originally posted by Heavyimpcat:

Originally posted by Bug Guy:

I am talking about SPECIFICALLY when he does spin and did not attack you prior entering aggravation zone. He starts spinning = no normal attack, and in spin he does damage to you - guardian does ♥♥♥♥.

last night Mo killed me LITERALLY at feet of my guardian with 0 attention from same, while doing spin. I specifically checked, even after my death Guardian did NOTHING.

Not that I dont believe you, but I am telling you that in the dozens of games I have played as him, I know thats not true. Did it happen in the one instance you are talking about? Very well may have, but if so than thats inconsistent to the way I have been experiencing the game. Doesnt matter if 1 creep or ten, Guardian will shoot and melee me if I get too close. Regardless of whether I have shot as well.

Either way, calling for nerfs for a Hero because of 1 negative experience is not how games get balanced well. I know its frustrating, but almost everything has a way to deal with it, and players next to guardian are not just free kills as Mo

[VALYRIE]

If they were removed it would only be a net positive for the game. Most brain dead press button to win character.

-If you try to outspace him he charges you with burrow.
-If you try to escape from it he locks you with his ult then disarms you after so you cant fight back.
-If you make any significant progress in the fight he just uses his other ability to get a ton of health back.

Easily the most miserable hero to 1v1, just above Kelvin. I can't wait for them to nerf this retarded mole.

[Peep]

Originally posted by VALYRIE:

If they were removed it would only be a net positive for the game. Most brain dead press button to win character.

-If you try to outspace him he charges you with burrow.
-If you try to escape from it he locks you with his ult then disarms you after so you cant fight back.
-If you make any significant progress in the fight he just uses his other ability to get a ton of health back.

Easily the most miserable hero to 1v1, just above Kelvin. I can't wait for them to nerf this retarded mole.

I agree that right out of the gate, Mo & Krill has the most "bully" potential, starting with 3 health regen and a large life pool and the ability to heal himself. But after buying 2-3 items it's pretty easy to shut him down in the laning phase and by late game he's virtually useless.