This is NOT Kate Walker!

[Candela]

This snowflake, punk rock, whisky voice, lesbian, ugly hair and wrong style over all.

Sorry, but this is not Kate Walker. You have ruined the character. I don't even care to play the rest of the prologue.

I want the old Kate Walker back. Not buying this. It's not her.

Good night Syberia.

[rgmaberry]

Messaggio originale di Ѧpril:

Spoiler ahead :

In the first story draft, after she escape she is badly hurts, gets rescued and is brought to the "city" were you play the other young girl... and from there, everything starts.

Dunno if they changed it since them, but there's that.

Woah where did you get that from? How do you know that?

[rgmaberry]

Do you have insider knowledge or are you just kidding or even speculating? Regardless why did you post that out of curiosity?

[raul_stefan1996]

Messaggio originale di Ѧpril:

Spoiler ahead :

In the first story draft, after she escape she is badly hurts, gets rescued and is brought to the "city" were you play the other young girl... and from there, everything starts.

Dunno if they changed it since them, but there's that.

Why would you even post this ? Don't care if it's the truth or not, it's just disrespect for other people who want to play the game to see the story, not to get spoiled on the internet.
Jesus Christ.
As rgmaberry asked, how do you know this ? Do you know someone who works on the game or are you just messing with us ?

[raul_stefan1996]

The game is available to pre-order on GOG. The deluxe edition is GOLD. It has the script of the prologue and the scenario is by Benoit Sokal. So the story was completed before mr Sokal passed away. I'm saying this for people who were sceptical about the story.
10.12.2021 the release date !
BRING IT ON

[FORTUNE_COOCHIE]

Messaggio originale di raul_stefan1996:

Messaggio originale di Ѧpril:

Why would you even post this ? Don't care if it's the truth or not, it's just disrespect for other people who want to play the game to see the story, not to get spoiled on the internet.
Jesus Christ.
As rgmaberry asked, how do you know this ? Do you know someone who works on the game or are you just messing with us ?

There is internal testing in the studios of Microid.
Some people played the game for 6 hours. Prologue included.

Several bugs and errors of storyline were reported. Several builds of the game were made (Also for the prologue, were some minor details changed). Dunno about the state of the game now.

Also, that isn't spoilery at all, since you do have a sort of "cinematic" right when you start, that shows you that moment, then you play the prologue, then you continue there.

[raul_stefan1996]

Messaggio originale di Ѧpril:

Messaggio originale di raul_stefan1996:

There is internal testing in the studios of Microid.
Some people played the game for 6 hours. Prologue included.

Several bugs and errors of storyline were reported. Several builds of the game were made (Also for the prologue, were some minor details changed). Dunno about the state of the game now.

Also, that isn't spoilery at all, since you do have a sort of "cinematic" right when you start, that shows you that moment, then you play the prologue, then you continue there.

I see. That's good that there are people testing the game so they can polish it at the best for the release time.
What do you mean by "errors of storyline" ?

[FORTUNE_COOCHIE]

Messaggio originale di raul_stefan1996:

Messaggio originale di Ѧpril:

I see. That's good that there are people testing the game so they can polish it at the best for the release time.
What do you mean by "errors of storyline" ?

Sorry for the delay.

When you make a game, there is always a storyline. Thing is.. sometimes things don't add up?

For example a scene that is played earlier than it should or that it would be best to happen later on the game. Those are "little" feedback, that makes the storyline of the game runs smoother.

Also, I want to point out that all I've been saying was on a early version of the game. Things could have changed, and even if it's not the case, it happens on the first hours of the game.

[raul_stefan1996]

Messaggio originale di Ѧpril:

Messaggio originale di raul_stefan1996:

Sorry for the delay.

When you make a game, there is always a storyline. Thing is.. sometimes things don't add up?

For example a scene that is played earlier than it should or that it would be best to happen later on the game. Those are "little" feedback, that makes the storyline of the game runs smoother.

Also, I want to point out that all I've been saying was on a early version of the game. Things could have changed, and even if it's not the case, it happens on the first hours of the game.

No problem.
Now I understand, thanks. I thought that maybe there were some parts of the story from this game which don't add up as they should to the other 3 games.
It's good they keep testing. Can't wait for the release

[rgmaberry]

Messaggio originale di Ѧpril:

Messaggio originale di raul_stefan1996:

There is internal testing in the studios of Microid.
Some people played the game for 6 hours. Prologue included.

Several bugs and errors of storyline were reported. Several builds of the game were made (Also for the prologue, were some minor details changed). Dunno about the state of the game now.

Also, that isn't spoilery at all, since you do have a sort of "cinematic" right when you start, that shows you that moment, then you play the prologue, then you continue there.

Messaggio originale di Ѧpril:

Messaggio originale di raul_stefan1996:

Sorry for the delay.

When you make a game, there is always a storyline. Thing is.. sometimes things don't add up?

For example a scene that is played earlier than it should or that it would be best to happen later on the game. Those are "little" feedback, that makes the storyline of the game runs smoother.

Also, I want to point out that all I've been saying was on a early version of the game. Things could have changed, and even if it's not the case, it happens on the first hours of the game.

Thanks for the clarification. It's kind of like how movies go through different drafts same goes for tv shows and even games. Hopefully everybody gets what they want out of this upcoming release and doesn't feel alienated. Was partly worried I might get spoiled with something that I may or may not have experienced yet from the prologue or press that they've released especially since the isn't coming til December for PC. With this being the Internet age it's sometimes difficult to avoid spoilers. I agree with Raul it's good if they keep testing and polishing the game and prologue and so forth. Can't wait for release myself and hope this makes a big impact for them continue more Syberia in some capacity.

[raul_stefan1996]

Messaggio originale di rgmaberry:

Messaggio originale di Ѧpril:

Thanks for the clarification. It's kind of like how movies go through different drafts same goes for tv shows and even games. Hopefully everybody gets what they want out of this upcoming release and doesn't feel alienated. Was partly worried I might get spoiled with something that I may or may not have experienced yet from the prologue or press that they've released especially since the isn't coming til December for PC. With this being the Internet age it's sometimes difficult to avoid spoilers. I agree with Raul it's good if they keep testing and polishing the game and prologue and so forth. Can't wait for release myself and hope this makes a big impact for them continue more Syberia in some capacity.

Amen to that.

[Ackerlight]

Messaggio originale di Candela:

Messaggio originale di ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

- why did they change her character?.......

because:
SJW

Messaggio originale di Point Man:

..

Thanks for the bump pink man

exactly. this woke cancel culture sjw´s are everywhere. they ruin everything,

[magritte]

Messaggio originale di giraffasus:

It is a bit of a poor design change for if one does a little research into what Russian gulags were like, then one would find that women didn't shave their head or wear rad outfits that seem to be styled to fit a post-apocalyptic atmosphere..

What does a Soviet gulag have to do with anything? She hasn't gone back in time. It's quite clear from the photo on the train that World War II was a LONG time ago. I haven't played Syberia 3, so maybe I'm completely wrong, but I had the impression she had been captured by some sort of paramilitary group, possibly Neo-Nazis.

As to hairstyle and clothing, it isn't that uncommon for prisoners to have their heads shaved. And the fact that they're not wearing any sort of uniform suggests that this is not an "official" Russian prison, so she's probably wearing whatever clothing she's been able to get.

Finally, the lesbian thing. I'm not persuaded that "they're just friends" argument. They've made it pretty clear from the way the guards joke about them. But it's not unheard of for someone to have a homosexual relationship in prison who had no previous experience. It could be situational homsexuality or perhaps she was bisexual all along. All we really know about her sexuality from the previous games (unless she had some torrid romance in Syberia 3) is she had a boyfriend who was kind of a jerk back in New York.

[rgmaberry]

Messaggio originale di magritte:

Messaggio originale di giraffasus:

It is a bit of a poor design change for if one does a little research into what Russian gulags were like, then one would find that women didn't shave their head or wear rad outfits that seem to be styled to fit a post-apocalyptic atmosphere..

What does a Soviet gulag have to do with anything? She hasn't gone back in time. It's quite clear from the photo on the train that World War II was a LONG time ago. I haven't played Syberia 3, so maybe I'm completely wrong, but I had the impression she had been captured by some sort of paramilitary group, possibly Neo-Nazis.

As to hairstyle and clothing, it isn't that uncommon for prisoners to have their heads shaved. And the fact that they're not wearing any sort of uniform suggests that this is not an "official" Russian prison, so she's probably wearing whatever clothing she's been able to get.

Finally, the lesbian thing. I'm not persuaded that "they're just friends" argument. They've made it pretty clear from the way the guards joke about them. But it's not unheard of for someone to have a homosexual relationship in prison who had no previous experience. It could be situational homsexuality or perhaps she was bisexual all along. All we really know about her sexuality from the previous games (unless she had some torrid romance in Syberia 3) is she had a boyfriend who was kind of a jerk back in New York.

Messaggio originale di magritte:

Messaggio originale di giraffasus:

It is a bit of a poor design change for if one does a little research into what Russian gulags were like, then one would find that women didn't shave their head or wear rad outfits that seem to be styled to fit a post-apocalyptic atmosphere..

What does a Soviet gulag have to do with anything? She hasn't gone back in time. It's quite clear from the photo on the train that World War II was a LONG time ago. I haven't played Syberia 3, so maybe I'm completely wrong, but I had the impression she had been captured by some sort of paramilitary group, possibly Neo-Nazis.

As to hairstyle and clothing, it isn't that uncommon for prisoners to have their heads shaved. And the fact that they're not wearing any sort of uniform suggests that this is not an "official" Russian prison, so she's probably wearing whatever clothing she's been able to get.

Finally, the lesbian thing. I'm not persuaded that "they're just friends" argument. They've made it pretty clear from the way the guards joke about them. But it's not unheard of for someone to have a homosexual relationship in prison who had no previous experience. It could be situational homsexuality or perhaps she was bisexual all along. All we really know about her sexuality from the previous games (unless she had some torrid romance in Syberia 3) is she had a boyfriend who was kind of a jerk back in New York.

Interesting take you have on all this. I have some thoughts myself which may have and/or may not have evolved over the past months since the release of the prologue/demo and the release of news, screenshots, and media. I also have played the prologue/demo off and on over the past several months since it's release on Steam and have amassed over 43.5 hours of playtime in it so I have amassed knowledge more or less from own POV anyway of what I think is going on.

1)The prison/salt mine might be and might not be an official prison and heck might not even be Russian I don't think they said in what country it's supposed to be for that part just that it's Winter 2004 in the Iron Taiga Region wherever that is. The prison/salt mine is run by a consortium of mobsters so anything can be possible regardless of how it's funded, supplied, and run. There's all kinds of anachronisms in the Syberia franchise anything's possible. I myself have actually played all 3 of the first Syberia games, but haven't finished Syberia 3 yet. I have played through 3 quite a bit, but not all the way though and I actually spoiled myself the ending by accident looking at Syberia fan art online.

2)Yeah the hairstyle and clothing I agree to some extent, but not completely let me elaborate. Both her hair color and her cellmate's hair color are blue on purpose and the same goes for the blue cloths or bands they both have on their arms and blue X's they both have on the backs of their jackets because they are both in Team Blue as evidenced by the rules of conduct documentation on the wall in their cell and by the fact that their guard/section manager Simona calls them collectively Team Blue. So there is some uniformity sort of to what they wear in terms of clothes and hair.

3)Now the Lesbian and/or Bisexual thing I can say from experience having played through most of the Syberia franchise not much comes up about Kate's orientation in Syberia 1 through Syberia 3 almost at all except she had been engaged to a man back in NYC who was her fiance who started seeing Kate's friend Olivia and the prologue/demo brings this up again with Dan (Kate's now ex-fiance) being hitched now with Olivia who is now Mrs. Foster instead of Olivia Parker. That bit about the love triangle is brought up maybe in Syberia 2 I don't remember, but is brought up more or less in Syberia 3. Now they don't mention anything about Kate's orientation, marriage (except Dan and Olivia all that) or romance, etc. in the prologue/demo at all that I can recall. Maybe Katyusha Kate's cellmate has Lesbian and/or Bisexual leanings or feelings for Kate, but I can't see much of a hint of that from Kate. Now for that matter maybe Dana Roze is that kind of character in this game and because she's a new character I could see them making her that kind of person, but who knows. I have seen a lot of Syberia fans having all kinds of opinions and stances on this I even have some myself. I don't have too much of a problem myself if it's done right and respectfully to Kate's character and arc and the Syberia legacy, but I will admit I am somewhat attached to her character and can relate to her a lot. The guards including Simona don't say or joke about anything to do with Kate and Katyusha's relationship except Nic Cantin in the diary says the guards laughed when it was mentioned how Kate and Katyusha take care of each other and that point isn't elaborated on. Plus some further thoughts based on their 12 hour workshift mining for salt and ivory and other relics they'd have a lot of time to sleep and eat and drink (what little the prison staff gave them which if I remember is actually 5 liters of water per cell a day not per person and that's not much plus meals and rest were privileges) so they probably just had time to sleep and take and eat/drink and not much else and then wake up and do it all over again plus they weren't sleeping in the same bed/cot. Also when Katyusha reminds Kate not to forget to take her good luck charm (Oscar's heart with her) Kate says "It's all I got left." I also can't see Kate being too bitter towards anyone in the long run depending on the situation if she has changed or will change as a person in terms of her romance and orientation, but I guess that also depends on what they let the players choose in terms of story direction and dialogue. Anyways I respect your standpoint and comment sorry this was so long. More or less the long and short of it all for this part is I can't see them having Kate as anything in the long run as anything other than straight, bisexual curious, or lesbian curious temporarily or permanently not that it's a big deal. Though I will say that I can see why this would be and could be a big deal for other fans I may not agree with everything they might think about it I can at least respect it. I think that's all I can say on this without going on about it for a long while. These are of course just my opinions and the details I have gathered from the franchise myself and is partly my own POV of it all so make of it what you will. Peace

[LoneStar7T9]

Look haters? The official trailer is now out, and Kate has her lovely long raven locks.
Angry narrow minded gamer's as usual, p*ssing on our shoes and telling us it's raining.

Syberia fans? Are you fans or not? Then buy the game. The game makes money. And we get sequels. Simple right?

That's all.

[FORTUNE_COOCHIE]

I've said it multiples times.. that it was just the prologue.. anyway. They're stupid as hell.