a theory about the girl and her ''daddy''.

[chris_dude]

as stated before, i really liked this game, and i would like to dwell a bit on the girl and her ''daddy'', and how nicely it ties up with a darker, eerie story, which complements and enhances the game even further.

OK, so to begin with:

the parts where the girl hinted about her ''daddy'' and the lore of the gloomy land of thunders and of eternal darkness, the land where you could sit ''under the sycamore trees'', it was excellent.
THAT was some good, creepy and unsettling lore right there.

so according to my theory about this, i can easily assume that her ''daddy'' is the devil, and that her fathers domain is hell, where only thunders and eternal darkness exist in there...
one more clue for her fate could be implied when she said : ''what sins have i committed to suffer like this, to be stuck in this purgatory?'', which could indicate that this girl is indeed the devils daughter, and that she pays a punishment for her family's sins, and as such, she is stuck in this purgatory with random masters.

(also this could be a clever reference to the old trend/meme that ''anime girls are spawns of the devil''. if so, thats extremely nicely done)

the whole environment of the game is so eerie too : an empty land, stretching as far as the eye can see, where the only stable thing is the cute green girl, her tools (bathtub, food etc etc) and you.
her ''owner''/master.

i dont know, it just seemed like that, and the games main environment really did felt like an endless purgatory plain, without anything in sight, and all this (depressing) emptiness really felt like a hopeless purgatory where the green girl was paying for her sins.

and the land where you sit under ''the sycamore trees''?
the land of thunders and eternal darkness, where her daddy lives into?
thats hell.

when she leaves you and returns to her daddy, she ''goes back to the darkness'', ''where she belongs'' as the game itself states.

so, i have a feeling that my theory is pretty close to the truth of the game's lore.

if anyone wants to discuss this unique part of the game with me, please do!
i love hearing other people's opinions and thoughts/theories about this game, and it would be a cool thing to see in this thread.

[Garage Heathen]

Hey, thank you so much for the praise! I'm incredibly happy that the game has made an impact, and it's very flattering to me that you have come up with your version of what happened.
I am not going to comment the content of you theory, though, sorry

[chris_dude]

ofcourse, thats fine by me.
will you make a sequel to this game, or a similarly strange girl-sim game in the future?
(perhaps with a more ''fun'' atmosphere than this one's serious/dark style, if possible?)

thanks for replying back to my thread, i really appreciate it.
keep up the good work!

[foundnemo]

I have to say, I do believe your theory carries some truth to it. Tho if that's the case, then who's that face we keep talking to? The one we see after each T-Gotchi death? The Devil? Tho she calls him/it her sibling so what would that make him?

[chris_dude]

Originally posted by foundnemo:

I have to say, I do believe your theory carries some truth to it. Tho if that's the case, then who's that face we keep talking to? The one we see after each T-Gotchi death? The Devil? Tho she calls him/it her sibling so what would that make him?

i always thought that the face that we keep talking to before/after her death is the same ''dragon''/devil that we talk about...
unless ''the face'' that we talk with is her sibling, and that her father is an unseen devil...

Remember, the way she talks about her ''daddy'' and his domain, the ''land where only thunders and eternal darkness exist in there...''
as one lays ''under the sycamore trees''...

So its safe to assume that this place is hell (or an other nightmarish realm), and her daddy is a/the devil.

[Kate_Unknown]

Just curious who the walrus looking guy who talks to you after a T-gotchi dies is in your theory?

edited for minor grammar.

[Suzuki Joe]

Originally posted by Garage Heathen:

Hey, thank you so much for the praise! I'm incredibly happy that the game has made an impact, and it's very flattering to me that you have come up with your version of what happened.
I am not going to comment the content of you theory, though, sorry

That's understandable. It's good that you're willing to confirm bits and pieces though, because theories that are very specific and sort of convoluted as was the case in the OP are so complex that they're either true, or they aren't, and having a definitive answer to such a huge corkboard of leads would probably be something even a Persian guy would say is "a little much"

[chris_dude]

Originally posted by Uzumaki:

Just curious who the walrus looking guy who talks to you after a T-gotchi dies is in your theory?

edited for minor grammar.

the ''game over'' guy (with the horns) who talks to you after a T-gotchi dies could possibly be the girls ''father''/daddy, so in a way he could be the ''devil''/daddy of that girl...

and judging by his looks, he could be a japanese devil, aka=an oni.

[Kate_Unknown]

Interesting yes I can see the resemblance to an Oni. Too me they kind of remind me of like a back market salesman at a flea market (the mysteries chinese salesman in the back alley kind of thing like in Gremlins).

There really isn't any reason the character can't be both the creator and the seller.

Not sure if this should be used as evidence but the creator Garage Heathen's name is used next to the figure in the opening sequence (plus they are using the character's image as an avatar in this very thread) which would seem to suggest a very creator like role for the character.

Fiction is a world with a known god. And the world for T-Gotchi is practically a torment simulator so it wouldn't be far fetched for the god to be more of a devil internally.

It's a very meta interruption, but I love that kind of stuff.

[Suzuki Joe]

Originally posted by Uzumaki:

Interesting yes I can see the resemblance to an Oni. Too me they kind of remind me of like a back market salesman at a flea market (the mysteries chinese salesman in the back alley kind of thing like in Gremlins).

There really isn't any reason the character can't be both the creator and the seller.

Not sure if this should be used as evidence but the creator Garage Heathen's name is used next to the figure in the opening sequence (plus they are using the character's image as an avatar in this very thread) which would seem to suggest a very creator like role for the character.

Fiction is a world with a known god. And the world for T-Gotchi is practically a torment simulator so it wouldn't be far fetched for the god to be more of a devil internally.

It's a very meta interruption, but I love that kind of stuff.

I think that the daddy is probably the seller and the creator. While Garage Heathen hasn't yet confirmed what kind of entity the protagonist is, I think it stands to reason that the daddy may have created the T-gotchi specifically for them. Although, on the other hand, it could just be mass-produced.

The real ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is the protagonist, here. How are they getting their dialogue options? Are they thinking of responses, and the fourth wall hands them to the player? If that's the case, then the responses are hand-written by the protagonist, depending on which one the player chooses. What kind of input is the player communicating with the green girl with?

Worst case scenario, the T-gotchis are mass-produced, and the daddy, predicting his daughter's behavior, pre-wrote the responses, or some kind of AI that would listen to the green girl and generate three potential answers for the protagonist, and consequently, the player.

Of all the things I want confirmation on, this a frickin' huge one

[Kate_Unknown]

It's probably a bad idea to commandeer another thread to discuss a different thread.

[Suzuki Joe]

Originally posted by Uzumaki:

It's probably a bad idea to commandeer another thread to discuss a different thread.

Well, it's not much like there's else going on here. I think that we could probably boil the entire lore down to just a few questions, unless DLC or something comes out and shakes things up

[Kate_Unknown]

So I did some digging and noticed that the devs previous game makes mention of a deity that is described as "An enormous creature, sitting in an insect-like pose. It looked remotely like a monkey, had snake eyes, and was wearing some sort of a mushroom-shaped hat. Its blue monkey lips were stretched in an uncanny smile, revealing a row of enormous yellow teeth." While the description doesn't match perfectly it does seem to be at least similar to the appearance of the salesman/devil character from T-Gotchi.

This god referenced in the game "Schastye" is stated as being nameless. I won't say any more as the nature of the god is central to the game and would be spoilery. It is a dollar on steam/itch.io so anyone who is interested can find it there.

[chris_dude]

Originally posted by Uzumaki:

Interesting yes I can see the resemblance to an Oni. Too me they kind of remind me of like a back market salesman at a flea market (the mysteries chinese salesman in the back alley kind of thing like in Gremlins).

There really isn't any reason the character can't be both the creator and the seller.

Not sure if this should be used as evidence but the creator Garage Heathen's name is used next to the figure in the opening sequence (plus they are using the character's image as an avatar in this very thread) which would seem to suggest a very creator like role for the character.

Fiction is a world with a known god. And the world for T-Gotchi is practically a torment simulator so it wouldn't be far fetched for the god to be more of a devil internally.

It's a very meta interruption, but I love that kind of stuff.

indeed, its safe to assume that the devil/''daddy'' of the T-gotchi girl is an oni character (fitting with the appearance and style of a japanese demon guy) and as such, mrs T-gotchi is a child of such a devil/''daddy''.

now, if one could attempt to view how a new t-gotchi girl is born with each new playthrough, one could say that each new girl is the original girl ''reborn'' as a ''new'' girl (the original one, but without a memory of her previous incarnations), OR, in a more pragmatic sense, those girls are mass-produced, and they appear as new items out of a ''gatcha'' style machine...

but considering the consistency of T-gotchi girl's memories, thoughts and behaviour in all of her playthroughs, one could say that my ''reincarnation''/reborn theory would be more true than anything else.

lastly, her original realm, the one where she lived with her devil ''daddy'', was definitely the dark place in which she returns to after you reach a special ending with her, and even the game's medal states that she has returned ''back to the darkness, where she belongs''.
(aka=the land of the sycamore trees, the bright lightnings and the eternal darkness/rain)
thats all

[Kate_Unknown]

My theory about the origin is a bit different. I be lieve that the land of the sycamore trees is more like a tunnel that humans pass through to become T-Gotchi Girls.

My theory is based on the devs previous game which is called Schastye and involves a deity brainwashing humans.

THE REST OF THIS MESSAGE CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR THE GAME SCHASTYE READ AT YOUR OWN RISK.

The game is basically about a Russian guy who is writing about his experiences trying out some magic mushrooms that allow him to meet a deity (the deities appearance is very very close to the appearance of the oni/devil figure in T-Gotchi). Once they have got in contact with the deity they learn that the creature can implant a chain of text into their mind that will eventually set them on a journey to being sucked into the deities realm (kind of a slow acting hypnosis). The humans can then spread this text to other humans like a virus and basically have them all start on the journey of being collected by the creature.

This collection of people sounds like the perfect mechanism for collecting massive amount and since they have had ideas implanted in their head it makes sense that the journey would involve brainwashing.

So with that said my sequence of events are:
1) humans come in contact with the text and begin the journey to the devil's realm.
2) once they arrive they are stuck in the forest of sycamore where they slowly forget their old lives and become the dependent little girls, the T-Gotchi's.
3) once the transformation is complete they are placed in their T-Gotchi prisons and used for the amusement of strangers.

[Thundercracker]

an update to this.

this contains spoilers to "who is lila?" another game by this dev.

only very minor spoiler: the "oni face" that talks to us here is the DAEMON for "who is lila?"

somewhat major plot related spoilers that you have to metagame to discover (so do not read at all if you have not played "lila" yet) :
tgochi is the "child" of "L." they are both artificially created "gods" made of memes.